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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #75 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:00am:

.That is one more thing than you then Cheesy

But everything I stated is true.

Howard used the once in a century boom revenue not for ANY constructive purpose other than being re-elected. What I said above was true.

The rich got huge tax cuts, those on low incomes a few $. The stuff about asset mllionaires on Age Pension, the health care rebate etc etc—all Howard and Costello.

High income earners got the same tax cuts as you, you big boofhead.

you just don't get ANYTHING right.

Exact reason why Howard destroyed future budgets. Well done, the structural damage is done because of this stupidity that fair was defined as being everyone.

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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #76 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 12:04pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:00am:

.That is one more thing than you then Cheesy

But everything I stated is true.

Howard used the once in a century boom revenue not for ANY constructive purpose other than being re-elected. What I said above was true.

The rich got huge tax cuts, those on low incomes a few $. The stuff about asset mllionaires on Age Pension, the health care rebate etc etc—all Howard and Costello.

High income earners got the same tax cuts as you, you big boofhead.

you just don't get ANYTHING right.

I take it then they are happy to accept the same percentage drop in income as Jo the Waitress at Luigi's Cafe? That should take a hefty bite out of their incomes.... did figures on that for you already....

That oughta start the old economy moving - all those richies with many thousands less per year.. have to find some new tax dodges.... Grin

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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #77 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:37pm

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

AiA wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:00am:

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Now here is a good idea, whats wrong with leaving medicare, and bulk billing the way it is. No Co-Payment. Sad

I think a reasonable co-pay could discourage those from seeing a physician needlessly.

There is ZERO evidence that people are seeing doctors needlessly.

What about employers who demand that their employees get a sick note from a doctor for every day of sick leave?

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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable Reply #78 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:59pm I am talking more of hypochondriacs, lonely old biddies visiting the doctor as a social thing, etc.
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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #79 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 3:50pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:00am:

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Now here is a good idea, whats wrong with leaving medicare, and bulk billing the way it is. No Co-Payment. Sad

Because the country will go broke

Try thinking outside the Abbott square Swaggie.

How about reducing the salary sacrifice into super lurk that is only utilised by the high income earners that can afford to sal sac.

Also the second , third and fourth investment properties tax lurk could be topped or phased out

Money for jam there in both cases.

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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #80 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 3:54pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

AiA wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:00am:

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Now here is a good idea, whats wrong with leaving medicare, and bulk billing the way it is. No Co-Payment. Sad

I think a reasonable co-pay could discourage those from seeing a physician needlessly.

We are on the same page. It's truly an insignificant payment politicized by the Senate.

It is in no way destroying Medicare. In fact, it would have been propping it up.

Its the thin end of the wedge. Thanks god for the good people in the Senate.

Touch Medicare at your peril twit Abbott.

(God I hope I dont get banned for a couple of days like last time I used that word)

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable Reply #81 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:09pm Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 3:54pm: (God I hope I dont get banned for a couple of days like last time I used that word) "God"?
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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #82 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 10:27pm

Bam wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:37pm:

St George of the Garden wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:30am:

AiA wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:00am:

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Now here is a good idea, whats wrong with leaving medicare, and bulk billing the way it is. No Co-Payment. Sad

I think a reasonable co-pay could discourage those from seeing a physician needlessly.

There is ZERO evidence that people are seeing doctors needlessly.

What about employers who demand that their employees get a sick note from a doctor for every day of sick leave?

Our policy down in Australia is if you have more than two days off consecutively then it must be accompanied by a doctors note.
Otherwise it gets taken as annual leave.
I don't think that's unnecessary or harsh. If employees had to pay to get it, I'm sure companies could look at a reimbursement. I know I'd use my company card to pay if it were me.

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Re: Lying Abbott - Medicare is affordable
Reply #83 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 3:30am

Here ya go - pretty wide open to any exploitation, I'd say.. byt bosses:-

http://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/sick-and-carers-leave/paid-sick-and-carers-leav...

"When evidence has to be given

Employers can ask an employee to give evidence to confirm why they have been away from work at any time. This includes even if an employee has only been off sick for 1 day.

An employee who doesn't give their employer evidence when asked may not be entitled to be paid for their sick or carer’s leave.

A workplace policy or registered agreement can specify when an employee has to give evidence to their employer and what type of evidence they have to give."

Reads like some hand-me-down from Wee Johnie Howard the Wrecker.... little man syndrome....

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