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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #45 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:00pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:22pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

nothing like it .... global warming, agree or not, is based on science, not religion

No, sorry, its based on politics, science has taken a back seat Grin

politics may be driving the denialists, but just about every major SCIENTIFIC organisation in the world supports the theory of man made climate change. thats not politics.

Yes, but who do we believe? Longy said only 30% of scientists believe in global warming.

Do we go with the gloom merchants, or mathematical experts like Longy?

LW is wrong about the only 30% statement however even if he were correct it does include virtually 100% of the climate scientists.

unlike the '97%' claim, the 30% result came out of a peer-reviewed study. and it included all scientists.

The 97% "claim" was ONLY made up of climate scientists

The "reviewed study" included veterinarians, pharmacists and podiatrists ( ... or any "scientist" looking for a "research grant")
- and was "funded" by the

Koch Brothers

, via the

Heartland Institute

so if you want to use funding as a credibility test then we can dismiss virtually all climate studes ever done since they were all done by govt funded, biased groups dependent on govt research funds for their existence.

So we can dismiss any research findings from a body funded by an international collective of governments
- but place all our faith in research funded by a pair of oil barons
?

This "flatulencia cerebral"
harks back to the days when

collective government research

was warning us that cigarettes were addictive and causing lung cancer
Meanwhile the

tobacco industry

was telling us that

tobacco is non-addictive

and

clearing our bronchial system

Nine out of ten "doctors agreed"

We'll assume you're with the
private research

- and oppose
Toxic Tony's
, so called,
Future Fund for Medical Research

- as all this research and breakthrough discovery would be "biased"

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #46 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

yes, 34 degrees is slightly warmer than 32 ... you can't tell?

Without a thermometer, no. and nor can you.

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #47 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

yes, 34 degrees is slightly warmer than 32 ... you can't tell?

Without a thermometer, no. and nor can you.

oh yes i can .... Cheesy

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #48 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:35pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:00pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 9:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:22pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 8:09pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:59pm:

nothing like it .... global warming, agree or not, is based on science, not religion

No, sorry, its based on politics, science has taken a back seat Grin

politics may be driving the denialists, but just about every major SCIENTIFIC organisation in the world supports the theory of man made climate change. thats not politics.

Yes, but who do we believe? Longy said only 30% of scientists believe in global warming.

Do we go with the gloom merchants, or mathematical experts like Longy?

LW is wrong about the only 30% statement however even if he were correct it does include virtually 100% of the climate scientists.

unlike the '97%' claim, the 30% result came out of a peer-reviewed study. and it included all scientists.

The 97% "claim" was ONLY made up of climate scientists

The "reviewed study" included veterinarians, pharmacists and podiatrists ( ... or any "scientist" looking for a "research grant")
- and was "funded" by the

Koch Brothers

, via the

Heartland Institute

so if you want to use funding as a credibility test then we can dismiss virtually all climate studes ever done since they were all done by govt funded, biased groups dependent on govt research funds for their existence.

So we can dismiss any research findings from a body funded by an international collective of governments
- but place all our faith in research funded by a pair of oil barons
?

This "flatulencia cerebral"
harks back to the days when

collective government research

was warning us that cigarettes were addictive and causing lung cancer
Meanwhile the

tobacco industry

was telling us that

tobacco is non-addictive

and

clearing our bronchial system

Nine out of ten "doctors agreed"

http://summerofsisterlove.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/camels.jpg

We'll assume you're with the
private research

- and oppose
Toxic Tony's
, so called,
Future Fund for Medical Research

- as all this research and breakthrough discovery would be "biased"

as did governments of the time.

I see nothing that would ever make me consider a government funding dependent body in any way INDEPENDENT. what we have is TWO groups that are paid for their opinions.

but the truth is obtained via observation as we watch our climate not change at all. DECADES of no change.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75162 Gender:	Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again Reply #49 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:37pm longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:35pm: but the truth is obtained via observation doesn't that mean you'll have to open your eyes? it'll never happen ... nope, you'll have to keep getting your truth via Bolt and Jones
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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #50 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:35pm:

but the truth is obtained via observation as we watch our climate not change at all. DECADES of no change.

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 9:01pm:

Quote:

... climate was "getting out of control"

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:38pm:

year in, year out, temperature remains the same

The data from America's space agency NASA shows that not only was 2014 the warmest year recorded since 1880, 10 of the hottest years on record have happened since 1998

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #51 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:46pm

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:53pm:

Its time wrote on Jan 17^th, 2015 at 7:45pm:

What if CC policy is one big scam, and we make the world a better place , for nothing .

But the result of the billions spent on making the world a better place has been proven to be nothing more than a piss in the ocean.
Its like sacrificing virgins in 15th century Peru to stop the eclipse, something else I'm sure you would have been on board with if you were there at the time.

correction...

hundreds of billions

leaving the debt to our grand children...

they'll be so proud of their moronic grand parents.. Roll Eyes

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #52 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!

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Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again
Reply #53 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:00pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

yes, 34 degrees is slightly warmer than 32 ... you can't tell?

Not at all, Longy, it depends on the maths. By your calculation, that’s NO CHANGE AT ALL.

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Reply #55 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:56pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!

keep up Karnal, this is 10 yr old level maths, longie never claimed to have studied at that level, he's studied university level maths ... you cannot expect him to know it all?

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Reply #56 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 10:39pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

yes, 34 degrees is slightly warmer than 32 ... you can't tell?

Without a thermometer, no. and nor can you.

oh yes i can .... Cheesy

I don't know if there is any basis for this but I can also, it seems to me that when temperature gets to the top end that the heat feels like a logarithmic increase. To me 34 is a lot hotter than 32 - 32 is hot but 34 is oppressive.

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Reply #57 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 10:42pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:56pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 8:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!

keep up Karnal, this is 10 yr old level maths, longie never claimed to have studied at that level, he's studied university level maths ... you cannot expect him to know it all?

Guys plug those numbers into a calculator if in doubt, I think someone lost a 0 somewhere.

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Reply #58 - Jan 18^th, 2015 at 11:15pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 10:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 7:33pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:15pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 1:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 12:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:41am:

innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2015 at 9:38am:

How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?

gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?

and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?

I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy

100-200 years, maybe more. Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.

yes, 34 degrees is slightly warmer than 32 ... you can't tell?

Without a thermometer, no. and nor can you.

oh yes i can .... Cheesy

I don't know if there is any basis for this but I can also, it seems to me that when temperature gets to the top end that the heat feels like a logarithmic increase. To me 34 is a lot hotter than 32 - 32 is hot but 34 is oppressive.

i have to do a lot outdoors work as part of my work ... I often can't do it at 34 whereas I can at 32 ... humidity also plays a big part. I'm lucky in that I can pick and choose when I do my work so I usually save the outdoor stuff for milder days

Just because longstupidone has lost his senses, it doesn't mean everyone has Cheesy

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aquascoot Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35161 Gender:	Re: Milne makes a fool of herself... again Reply #59 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 5:23am Well I was certainly glad I spent up big on Y2K , I think climate change is real. Having Christine support that idea does make me nervous that I may be wrong
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