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Reply #60 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:41am  
Difference between 32°C and 34°C will be felt as rather higher maximum temperatures.
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Reply #61 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am  
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin
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Reply #62 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:57am  
buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:29pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 7:35pm:
but the truth is obtained via observation as we watch our climate not change at all.  DECADES of no change.






buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 9:01pm:
Quote:
... climate was "getting out of control"


longweekend58 wrote on Jan 17th, 2015 at 7:38pm:
year in, year out, temperature remains the same


The data from America's space agency NASA shows that not only was 2014 the warmest year recorded since 1880, 10 of the hottest years on record have happened since 1998
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have another think about that statement.  If the claim is that warming has stopped in the last 17 years does that not also imply strongly that most of the hottest years would also be in that last 17?  Does that in any way invalidate the claim that warming has STOPPED?
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Reply #63 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:59am  
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


now you know why Karnal is in such awe of my math skills.  he cannot multiply, add and certainly nothing more advances that year 8 maths.

0.02 is well within the range of statistically INSIGNIFICANT.
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Reply #64 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:03am  
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


It was 0.2 a second ago. Has Longy changed the maths?

Thank God for that. It was touch and go there for a sec.
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Reply #65 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:06am  
aquascoot wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:23am:
Well I was certainly glad I spent up big on Y2K ,

I think climate change is real.
Having Christine support that idea does make me nervous that I may be wrong


The main reason that Y2K was a fizzer is that most people did spend up on it, particularly in the areas that mattered.
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Reply #66 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:10am  
Karnal wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:03am:
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


It was 0.2 a second ago. Has Longy changed the maths?

Thank God for that. It was touch and go there for a sec.


No he made that number up a while ago - you didn't notice.
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Reply #67 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:14am  
Karnal wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:03am:
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


It was 0.2 a second ago. Has Longy changed the maths?

Thank God for that. It was touch and go there for a sec.


Quote:
Temperatures in 2014 were 1.24 F above the 20th century average, according to the National Climatic Data Centre.
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Reply #68 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:17am  
aquascoot wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:23am:
Well I was certainly glad I spent up big on Y2K ,

I think climate change is real.


So did Longy last year. Something must have happened to change his mind.

I think it was 2014 being the hottest year on record - that proves there has been.NO WARMING AT ALL.
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Reply #69 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:58am  
Karnal wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:03am:
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


It was 0.2 a second ago. Has Longy changed the maths?

Thank God for that. It was touch and go there for a sec.


Your position is total nonsense as it isn't an annual increase any way.

0.02 is swamped by the by the fact the error bars are 500 times this duplicitous record. 

So big effing what if a confected result based on duplicitous record selection and data massaging comes up with an insignificant non record. Talk about a dishonest and desperate press release.

Tabloid trash for mindless sheep.
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Reply #70 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:00am  
Karnal wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:17am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 5:23am:
Well I was certainly glad I spent up big on Y2K ,

I think climate change is real.


So did Longy last year. Something must have happened to change his mind.

I think it was 2014 being the hottest year on record - that proves there has been.NO WARMING AT ALL.


My intuition tells me its real.
obviously when energy has been stored for millions of years there is a negative entropy effect, when you dig and drill it all up and oxidise it in 100 years there HAS to be an exothermic effect.

BUT,  I think the approach is wrong.

instead of the massive spend trying to hold back the tide (which will fail unless everyone turns off their air-con and walks to work) what we should be doing is spending on adapting TO the temperature rise.

so if there was direct action spending, it should be on making houses more cyclone proof, population control, securing good agricultural land, adapting housing, securing water resources and possibly developing a big military to protect ourselves from upcoming food and water wars.

karmal, you are a bright boy, you must know about the water table dropping in india, that literally millions are going to starve soon and that a carbon tax in OZ wont fix this.
what we need is probably to spend money on the oral contraceptive for indian farmers, to spend money on GM drought resistant crops.

you simply cant fight mother nature, as a farmer I know this.
it is the humans that will have to adapt to the change. it surprises me that bright people like yourself cant see we just have to accept change ( a leftie maxim surely) and adapt OURSELVES to it
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Reply #71 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:16am  
The arrogance is in presuming we even CAN increase temperatures in some runaway fashion.  Even now, temperatures simply refuse to increase.  Nothing we do increases or reduces temperature and never has.  not one single climatic indicator is in any way outside recent historical norms or heading that way.
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Reply #73 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:22am  
Only the sky fairy can increase the temperature, right Longy?
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Reply #74 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:31am  
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:58am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:03am:
Rider wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:26am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 8:58pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 1:55pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 12:02pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:41am:
innocentbystander. wrote on Jan 18th, 2015 at 9:38am:
How did they come to the conclusion that todays weather and co2 levels are just right?


gee, i don't know ... could it be because they are comfortable when they go outside? how do you think they came to that conclusion?



and you can tell the difference between 2014 and 2013 with its supposed 0.02degree difference?


I'm certainly sweating more than I used to.

when you add that .02 to next years .02 and the .02 the year after that and so on and so on , how long do you think before you can tell the difference? never mind the fact that by the time you can tell its to late Cheesy Cheesy


100-200 years, maybe more.  Unless you think you can tell without looking, the difference between 32 and 34 degrees.


Longy, where’s your maths? A 0.02 degree rise a year is a 10 degree rise in 50 years!

My God, you simply must change the formula. This is urgent!


Maths done by warmist fools....no wonder they get everything wrong. .....

0.02 x 50 = ..........    Grin

Did you know the error bars are 500 times more than this so called record  Grin


It was 0.2 a second ago. Has Longy changed the maths?

Thank God for that. It was touch and go there for a sec.


Your position is total nonsense as it isn't an annual increase any way.

0.02 is swamped by the by the fact the error bars are 500 times this duplicitous record. 

So big effing what if a confected result based on duplicitous record selection and data massaging comes up with an insignificant non record. Talk about a dishonest and desperate press release.

Tabloid trash for mindless sheep.


Gee, Rider, you're going to have to dumb this down for idiots like me. "confected duplicitous record selection and data massaging"?

Please explain.

The 0.2 rise last year is Longy's figure. I'll thank you to let Longy change his own maths.

He would have done a PhD, but mathematicians are IDIOTS.
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