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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #135 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:19am

Panther wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

Amadd wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:41pm:

Dr. Caligari wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:32pm:

Amadd wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:23pm:

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if you are going to die by AK47 at least let it be worth while and at the very least arm your staff so they have an equal chance.....

is that really that hard to comprehend..

Too right!! Give us our guns back, we need to arm ourselves against fanatical invaders.
The cops are arming themselves to the hilt because they're scared and ordinary citizens are left defenseless.

They have an intense cocoon of hate and dogma to protect them against the fictional enemy.

Yep. Funny that ain't it? The public is now stripped of firearms whilst the authorities will be gun-toting dictators forevermore..or until the next revolution.
History shows that the police are in no more danger than the public from terrorists.

Adolf Hitler once said, "To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens" ..

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/disarm.asp

As you can see whilst the quote is true, its almost always taken out of context, as you have done here.

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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11523 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #136 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:23am longweekend58 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 8:21am: ....... a totally worthless statement today with hitech weaponry. A gun is of no consequence to an invading army with tanks, missiles, advanced fighters and hi tech weapons. That's right, you'll lay down, & play dead like a good lil obedient doggie.
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #137 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:28am

cods wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 9:58am:

Panther wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 9:47am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 6:08am:

What's after high alert? Shake in your boots alert? Are you scared enough yet?

There's a difference between being ignorant & scared (you), or being confidently secure because you've been alerted, & having been alerted, you have taken measures to confidently say you're prepared in the event (me). http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/BigToothSmile.gif

If the day comes, I for one will not be laying down prostrate like an obedient sheeple, or crying my eyes out while I throw my pile of rocks at the enemy (coming from within our shores, not from outside) struggling to find my penknife to protect myself, my mates, & most importantly my family.

I'm prepared to go medieval on whomever needs an education on what resistance really is. http://www.smileyfaze.tk/slides/cleanteeth09.gif

there is every chance you may be put to the test...

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/french-muslim-groups-urge-calm-over-...

you must love cartoons.. thats all I can say.....

I try very hard to use the M word but my FoS is sorely hampered by mindless attacks on MY FoS..

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #138 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:29am

Panther wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:11am:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 9:06am:

Panther wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

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Adolf Hitler once said, "To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens" ..

No he didnt.

Ok, proceed to start posting your litany of leftist, American anti-gun propaganda bloggy rags, & self-defining know it all progressive left professor links, that say he didn't ( because they hate quotes like that, that don't advance their leftist agenda) ---- that you've eaten up like a Sunday Roast Pig.

Go for it. I won't get deny your fun.

Utilize the powers of your free speech.

I'll defend your right to express your personal opinions, regardless of how foolish.

expect your bulldust to be questioned. Also expect any lies you say to be challenged.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #139 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:33am

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:29am:

Panther wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 10:11am:

ian wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 9:06am:

Panther wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:50pm:

n

Adolf Hitler once said, "To conquer a nation, you must first disarm its citizens" ..

No he didnt.

Ok, proceed to start posting your litany of leftist, American anti-gun propaganda bloggy rags, & self-defining know it all progressive left professor links, that say he didn't ( because they hate quotes like that, that don't advance their leftist agenda) ---- that you've eaten up like a Sunday Roast Pig.

Go for it. I won't get deny your fun.

Utilize the powers of your free speech.

I'll defend your right to express your personal opinions, regardless of how foolish.

expect your bulldust to be questioned. Also expect any lies you say to be challenged.

Ewwwwwwww, questioning my bulldust ..... now I've been put on notice! ..... duly noted.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #140 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:43pm

[quote author=cods if you are going to die by AK47 at least let it be worth while and at the very least arm your staff so they have an equal chance.....

is that really that hard to comprehend.. [/quote]

Too right!! Give us our guns back, we need to arm ourselves against fanatical invaders.
The cops are arming themselves to the hilt because they're scared and ordinary citizens are left defenseless.

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The cops aren't arming themselves, we are allowing them to arm with our approval, as long as it's all in our behalf, & to our benefit, but in order to keep them in check we to must be armed with the same firepower they possess.
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total rubbish.....the cops have always been armed in this country and everyone knows it...we the people do not find the need to be armed and thats why we have a pretty good history....

if you take any n otice of the shoot outs we experience they are usually between two gangs trying to eliminate each other.... and good luck with that...

if you watched Underbelly they were busy killin g each other not the general public....

if my staff were threatened by maniacs.....and I wished to keep tormenting those maniacs..

the least I could do is arm my staff to the hilt...

charlie thought he could get away with it...

he sure learnt didnt he?

and I do hope the [ugly]cartoon business is thriving because a lot of blood was spilt for their FREEDOM OF SPEECH [/quote]

The police in Australia have not always been armed, this is a recent development. There are still very many sworn members who are not armed. Also, we the people, that includes me, DO find the need to be armed if allowed by government. I know many of my friends who will be first on the list to be armed with concealed Carry.

We have not really had a "shoot out" there are very few shots fired in a general direction, usually at a home or a single gang member, usually ending in nothing, or a wounded toe nail. Criminals usually have firearms to protect their property or to intimidate others. Oh! And the "odd angry shot".
Underbelly was a TV show, people watch to much TV, the real world is nothing like that, thank God.
IT IS pointless in arming your staff if you so see fit, its who holds the firearms and there resolve to use it, fire it, kill with it. Then the massive training that goes with the use.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #141 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:45pm nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:43pm: Also, we the people, that includes me, DO find the need to be armed if allowed by government. I know many of my friends who will be first on the list to be armed with concealed Carry. . May I ask why you find the need?
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #142 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:52pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:45pm:

nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:43pm:

Also, we the people, that includes me, DO find the need to be armed if allowed by government. I know many of my friends who will be first on the list to be armed with concealed Carry. .

May I ask why you find the need?

It is just something that needs to happen, for the safety and reassurance of the population, the times now are very uncertain. Also they do not appear to be getting any less stressful. Actually if you are asking you would never understand my reasoning. Best left like that.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #143 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:54pm

nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 2:52pm:

It is just something that needs to happen, for the safety and reassurance of the population, the times now are very uncertain. Also they do not appear to be getting any less stressful. Actually if you are asking you would never understand my reasoning. Best left like that.

Uncertain times? Times have always been uncertain. Knowing there are people with concealed weapons around personally makes me less reassured.

But you are right, I'd never understand your reasoning, since it would be illogical.

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #144 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?
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Reply #145 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm

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Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?

I live in Australia, and possibly prior to 2000 I would have agreed with you. However I was different then.
I think the quote goes something like this " I would rather carry and never ever need it, than need it and not carry."
Pistols weigh around 1.3kgs, easily concealable, no big deal, nothing happens, no one will ever know you carried.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #146 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:18pm

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm:

Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?

WILL SOMEONE TELL THEM THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ....."FREEDOM OF SPEECH"..

SO WHY BOTHER GETTING KILLED FOR IT..

STOP PRINTING CRUEL IGNORANT CARTOONS..

AND THAT MAY GO SOME WAY TO

APPEASING

OUR ANGRY FRIENDS...

AND CALMING THEM DOWN INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS WORSE.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #147 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:22pm

nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm:

Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?

I live in Australia, and possibly prior to 2000 I would have agreed with you. However I was different then.
I think the quote goes something like this " I would rather carry and never ever need it, than need it and not carry."
Pistols weigh around 1.3kgs, easily concealable, no big deal, nothing happens, no one will ever know you carried.

2 Flaws in the logic

1. is that by carrying, you're actually increasing the likelihood to carry it.

2. Its all based on the possibility of needing it, which I don't think exists

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #148 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:22pm:

nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm:

Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?

I live in Australia, and possibly prior to 2000 I would have agreed with you. However I was different then.
I think the quote goes something like this " I would rather carry and never ever need it, than need it and not carry."
Pistols weigh around 1.3kgs, easily concealable, no big deal, nothing happens, no one will ever know you carried.

2 Flaws in the logic

1. is that by carrying, you're actually increasing the likelihood to carry it.

2. Its all based on the possibility of needing it, which I don't think exists

You are discounting the possibility that conservatives have an innate suicide wish; or that they wish to assist other conservatives in fulfilling their conservative suicide wish.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #149 - Jan 21^st, 2015 at 4:26pm

nasus wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:17pm:

Life_goes_on wrote on Jan 21^st, 2015 at 3:02pm:

Far out, what countries do these people live in to feel that they need to carry a concealed firearm?

I live in Australia, and possibly prior to 2000 I would have agreed with you. However I was different then.
I think the quote goes something like this " I would rather carry and never ever need it, than need it and not carry."
Pistols weigh around 1.3kgs, easily concealable, no big deal, nothing happens, no one will ever know you carried.

The USA experience dictates otherwise. More personally-owned guns kill their owners than attackers. Also, a fight among aussies is likely to be done with fists. In USA it is common to escalate to guns. Hence the 50,000 annual death toll from firearms vs our <100

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