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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #225 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:16am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:03am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



And that's the point you don't get.  In NORMAL circumstances I might agree with you, but this is not a normal circumstance.  This is a matter of principle.  People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about.  Do you get that?  We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important.  The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #226 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:23am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:03am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



its like talking to the devil himself isnt it pansi...

what a sorry lot they are..

all they do is read WHAT THEY WANT TO READ...

then they insult people telling them to go to hell...I think thats where the forum is just quietly..
hell


the ignorance shown on here by MALES...is astounding it really is....they are bullies yet dont see it.. each and every one of them has insulted us over and over again...its meant to shut us up and make us go to hell..you do know that dont you???....

bullies playground bullies....

even telling me to take horse medication and now go to hell..

charming....

couldnt argue if their life depended on it.. because they know they will lose..and like 7 yr olds they spit the dummy when they lose...

I am proud of the way I think about this..no religion should be brought down and denigrated like we do....to abuse others is a disgusting way to make a living...

but it goes on and as we can see the bwave encourage it.. they think its manly... Roll Eyes Roll Eyesand or a FoS  Grin Grin
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Reply #227 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:27am
 
pansi didnt watch Adam Hill but I have done its so late I was watching the tennis.. we are doing well so far so good...

I am sorry I missed the show I think its good to hear everyone on this topic.......and whats happened.. we can all learn from it... not the bwave ones on here of course....they know how to deal with this....head on. Roll Eyes
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #228 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:42am
 
cods wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:23am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:03am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



its like talking to the devil himself isnt it pansi...

what a sorry lot they are..

all they do is read WHAT THEY WANT TO READ...

then they insult people telling them to go to hell...I think thats where the forum is just quietly..
hell


the ignorance shown on here by MALES...is astounding it really is....they are bullies yet dont see it.. each and every one of them has insulted us over and over again...its meant to shut us up and make us go to hell..you do know that dont you???....

bullies playground bullies....

even telling me to take horse medication and now go to hell..

charming....

couldnt argue if their life depended on it.. because they know they will lose..and like 7 yr olds they spit the dummy when they lose...

I am proud of the way I think about this..no religion should be brought down and denigrated like we do....to abuse others is a disgusting way to make a living...

but it goes on and as we can see the bwave encourage it.. they think its manly... Roll Eyes Roll Eyesand or a FoS  Grin Grin


many blessings beloved being

why do these ones attack you , one may well ask ...

one may observe that you are in constant judgement from a place of judgement you judge others and they may take offence ...

yet one such as I am merely observes this

with so very much love

does this comfort you ?

so be it

namaste

- : ) =
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #229 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:46am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:16am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:03am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



And that's the point you don't get.  In NORMAL circumstances I might agree with you, but this is not a normal circumstance.  This is a matter of principle.  People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about.  Do you get that?  We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important.  The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.


many blessings

when one such as you are takes side in any argument

the chosen argument is now retarded as you lend your warped vision to that side of debate..

which is ok and cool for any logical thinker this is good ...

it is very good for you are your greatest adversary

and do not even realise this fact

and so be it

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #230 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:46am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:42am:
osted by: it_is_the_light        Posted on: Today at 7:42am
cods wrote Today at 7:23am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid II wrote Today at 7:03am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



its like talking to the devil himself isnt it pansi...

what a sorry lot they are..

all they do is read WHAT THEY WANT TO READ...

then they insult people telling them to go to hell...I think thats where the forum is just quietly..hell

the ignorance shown on here by MALES...is astounding it really is....they are bullies yet dont see it.. each and every one of them has insulted us over and over again...its meant to shut us up and make us go to hell..you do know that dont you???....

bullies playground bullies....

even telling me to take horse medication and now go to hell..

charming....

couldnt argue if their life depended on it.. because they know they will lose..and like 7 yr olds they spit the dummy when they lose...

I am proud of the way I think about this..no religion should be brought down and denigrated like we do....to abuse others is a disgusting way to make a living...

but it goes on and as we can see the bwave encourage it.. they think its manly...  and or a FoS  


many blessings beloved being

why do these ones attack you , one may well ask ...

one may observe that you are in constant judgement from a place of judgement you judge others and they may take offence ...

yet one such as I am merely observes this

with so very much love

does this comfort you ?

so be it

namaste



funny that I could have swore it is "I" who is being judged..

maybe like most on here you only read what you want to read........and what you believe the person is saying.. and not what they really are saying..

but I forgive you.
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #231 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:47am
 
cods wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:46am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:42am:
osted by: it_is_the_light        Posted on: Today at 7:42am
cods wrote Today at 7:23am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid II wrote Today at 7:03am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



its like talking to the devil himself isnt it pansi...

what a sorry lot they are..

all they do is read WHAT THEY WANT TO READ...

then they insult people telling them to go to hell...I think thats where the forum is just quietly..hell

the ignorance shown on here by MALES...is astounding it really is....they are bullies yet dont see it.. each and every one of them has insulted us over and over again...its meant to shut us up and make us go to hell..you do know that dont you???....

bullies playground bullies....

even telling me to take horse medication and now go to hell..

charming....

couldnt argue if their life depended on it.. because they know they will lose..and like 7 yr olds they spit the dummy when they lose...

I am proud of the way I think about this..no religion should be brought down and denigrated like we do....to abuse others is a disgusting way to make a living...

but it goes on and as we can see the bwave encourage it.. they think its manly...  and or a FoS  


many blessings beloved being

why do these ones attack you , one may well ask ...

one may observe that you are in constant judgement from a place of judgement you judge others and they may take offence ...

yet one such as I am merely observes this

with so very much love

does this comfort you ?

so be it

namaste



funny that I could have swore it is "I" who is being judged..

maybe like most on here you only read what you want to read........and what you believe the person is saying.. and not what they really are saying..

but I forgive you.


many blessings

I forgive you too for you are loved

yet these others take offence to being judged

go figure ..

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #232 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:49am
 
yet further

I do not judge those whom judge

this is merely observed

with so very much love

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #233 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:20am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:47am:
cods wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:46am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:42am:
osted by: it_is_the_light        Posted on: Today at 7:42am
cods wrote Today at 7:23am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 7:10am:
Postmodern Trendoid II wrote Today at 7:03am:
Dame Pansi wrote Today at 6:15am:
You're not a coward cods, you're just sensible.

There's sensible and there's stupidity.

Brave or stupid?

There will always be some journalist, comedian, author or whatever that crosses the line to insult Islam and there will always be some radical to kill him for it.

He will know where the line is drawn by previous events or a not so subtle warning from some Muslim group or fanatic.

I'm not talking about a funny cartoon or skit, I mean straight out insulting. I think we all know the difference between brutally insulting and a bit of innocent humour or a little 'dig'.

You've been warned, take heed or take the consequences, it's your choice.


Good propaganda, Comrade. We mustn't insult Islam, but the bankers, Christians, CEOs, white people, conservatives, Americans, Jews, rich people, successful people, Murdoch, business owners are fair game. This is progress.



It's knowing where to stop, that's the tricky bit. Stupid people never know when to stop, that's why prisons and cemeteries are full of them.



its like talking to the devil himself isnt it pansi...

what a sorry lot they are..

all they do is read WHAT THEY WANT TO READ...

then they insult people telling them to go to hell...I think thats where the forum is just quietly..hell

the ignorance shown on here by MALES...is astounding it really is....they are bullies yet dont see it.. each and every one of them has insulted us over and over again...its meant to shut us up and make us go to hell..you do know that dont you???....

bullies playground bullies....

even telling me to take horse medication and now go to hell..

charming....

couldnt argue if their life depended on it.. because they know they will lose..and like 7 yr olds they spit the dummy when they lose...

I am proud of the way I think about this..no religion should be brought down and denigrated like we do....to abuse others is a disgusting way to make a living...

but it goes on and as we can see the bwave encourage it.. they think its manly...  and or a FoS  


many blessings beloved being

why do these ones attack you , one may well ask ...

one may observe that you are in constant judgement from a place of judgement you judge others and they may take offence ...

yet one such as I am merely observes this

with so very much love

does this comfort you ?

so be it

namaste



funny that I could have swore it is "I" who is being judged..

maybe like most on here you only read what you want to read........and what you believe the person is saying.. and not what they really are saying..

but I forgive you.


many blessings

I forgive you too for you are loved

yet these others take offence to being judged

go figure ..

namaste

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yeah me too.. and I dont like being bullied either
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Reply #234 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 8:44am
 
many blessings

there is one way to stop bullying ...

forgiveness and compassion

when you do this, the magnetic field around you is  impenetrable

and so it is for do you see any being bullying the divine light here before you ?

haha and also

I love you for you are a fine and honourable being

namaste

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Reply #235 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:00am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:16am:
This is a matter of principle.  People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about.  Do you get that?  We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important.  The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.


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As I've always said, I may vehemently disagree with what you've said or done, & argued to all ends of this earth, but I will defend your right to say or do what you do (Freedom of Speech/Expression) with my last drop of blood, with my very life, so help me God.

I've stood side by side with many brave men who have done exactly that. 

They laid down their lives so we can exercise our freedom to say what we say, & do what we do.

To that I am eternally grateful.

May they rest in peace.

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Reply #236 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:05am
 
Panther wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:00am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:16am:
This is a matter of principle.  People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about.  Do you get that?  We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important.  The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.


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As I've always said, I may vehemently disagree with what you've said or done, & argued to all ends of this earth, but I will defend your right to say or do what you do (Freedom of Speech/Expression) with my last drop of blood, with my very life, so help me God.

I've stood side by side with many brave men who have done exactly that. 

They laid down their lives so we can exercise our freedom to say what we say, & do what we do.

To that I am eternally grateful.

May they rest in peace.



many blessings

fine and honourable pursuits these remain

and so be it

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #237 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:15am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:49am:
yet further

I do not judge those whom judge

this is merely observed

with so very much love

namaste

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good stuff Light.

sometimes you post waffle (well actually a lot of the time you do), but sometimes you hit the nail on the head. and this is one of those times.

cods is being a bit judgemental about the fact that others are judging her.

you have nailed it.

now this may just be a case of

"if the light posts SO MUCH STUFF, he may eventually post something inciteful"

or it may just be that you really are inciteful.

either way , be at peace.
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Reply #238 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:21am
 
Panther wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:00am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22nd, 2015 at 7:16am:
This is a matter of principle.  People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about.  Do you get that?  We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important.  The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.


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As I've always said, I may vehemently disagree with what you've said or done, & argued to all ends of this earth, but I will defend your right to say or do what you do (Freedom of Speech/Expression) with my last drop of blood, with my very life, so help me God.

I've stood side by side with many brave men who have done exactly that. 

They laid down their lives so we can exercise our freedom to say what we say, & do what we do.

To that I am eternally grateful.

May they rest in peace.




so you know people who died for a cartoon....WOW..

I would think those who died in the real trenches are spinning in their graves..

btw I still cant say the M word..have you tried your FoS on these boardslately?? have you tried to use the S word...

freedom to say and do what we do...REALLY! Smiley
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Reply #239 - Jan 22nd, 2015 at 9:23am
 
its good to hear those that died in France died for principles and not a cartoon....it must make their loved ones feel a whole lot better.. Smiley
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