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Reply #30 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:22am
 
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:49am:
nasus wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:07am:
Not sure what this FREEDOM of speech is that this topic cover. Or freedom of expression.
The right to free speech was lost years ago

SHHHHH DONT TELL FD OR GIZMO OR QUANTUM OR LONGWEEKEND... THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR IT AND WILL RISK THEIR LIVES FOR IT..SHHHH

and I cannot see any return to what we lost anytime soon.
However n our society there are some who are allowed more freedom of speech and expression that others.
If a person is to the far right and wants to protest about immigration being to lax etc, they want a peaceful protest to have their voices heard, Stiff, it won't happen in our free country.
If on the other hand you belong to the far left, are muslim, or some other green cause or just weird, you are allowed a great deal more tolerance and get less hassle than others.
Unions can pretty well close down the city, they are united, crap. 
What is disappointing is even telling a joke that offends someone is no longer allowed, no more Irish jokes, sad.
No more great cartoons no more anything, and it's going to get worse before it might get better.  Angry


  MATE  THE IRISH DONT THREATEN TO
KILL
OVER THE JOKES.
SO I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND AMUSEMENT AT SOMEONE ELSES EXPENSE IS STILL AVAILABLE....
I SUGGEST YOU GO AND DIGEST WHAT THE TOPIC IS ABOUT....
IT IS ABOUT INSULTING SOMEONES BELIEFS.....ITS ABOUT BEING THREATENED WITH DEATH..
NOT HARD TO FOLLOW..THERE IS SO FAR ONLY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT THREATEN DEATH OVER THIS FORM OF DISRESPECT.....


The Irish don't threaten to kill, you are so right, HOWEVER the laws here prohibit this, YOU WILL BE SENT TO JAIL< dark dungeons. It was never amusements at another's expense, it was FREEDOM of speech.
Not sure your line about going to digest the topic is fair, guess you can't understand sarcasm?
If you are so bold and wish to insult someone's belief, you will be in front of the courts real quick.
MANY yell abuse at TV screens and walls but are to afraid to let the world know how they feel, again the law is against you, jail time.
All I was saying FREEDOM of speech is lost in Australia, forget the death threats, (LOST) as for those who threaten death over what you may say against them, or disrespect them is a separate issue, Australian law will not allow it.
I actually don't see anyone fighting for freedom of anything, they are just putting words on this forum without making the slightest difference, their lives are safe. Be safe.  Smiley
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Reply #31 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:45am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:04am:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 8:01am:
Resolute wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:57am:
And yet again the appeasers are happy to invoke their right to freedom of speech, and of course their support for murders, whilst remaining comfortable and safe in their own opinionated little world.



and we dont want socks on this thread if you dont mind...its called I draw a line FREEDOM OF SPEECH..

what support are your referring to in particular???>..

not the bit where we prefer 17 people hadnt been sacrificed for a cartoon.....?


No cods, not 'sacrificed for a cartoon'...MURDERED because of a cartoon.


Perhaps they had a death wish?
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Reply #32 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:57am
 
____ wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:28am:
Do we have a right for freedom of speech?
We don't have a bill of rights.

I'm all for a bill of rights so to guarantee.


Gee I thought as a raving lefty fruitloop you'd be more likely to be for a Bill of
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Reply #33 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:03pm
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:55am:
No need to get rattled & start shouting  Roll Eyes

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MATE  THE IRISH DONT THREATEN TO KILL OVER THE JOKES.


That's the whole point Cods .... no one else does except the mad mussos.....

Quote:
go and kick the bee hive.. stupid..


The hives of angry killer bees should be eradicated for the sake of the whole honey bee industry.  Wink




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Reply #34 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:05pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:09am:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:43am:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:44am:
Cods is a spineless coward. The reason she is a coward is because she has made it very clear that making fun of Christians/buhudist/Hindus/etc is fair game because they won't shoot you. Muslims will shoot you, so it is best not to "kick the beehive".

If she was making an argument that these kind of cartoons are hate speach and should not be permitted to be made about anyone, that in itself would raise an interesting debate about freedom of speech, but at least it would not be from being a complete wimp.

So this issue isn't really about freedom of speech. It is about how far we as a society are willing to go to appease one particular fanatical religion. In cods view, you can kick the shlt out of everyone else because they won't kill you for it, but because Muslims are dangerous don't "kick the beehive". Gutless! 



oops how about joining longy    and you bwave boys can tell them to their face what you think of them and what you will do for FREEDOM OF SPEECH... Grin..

I dont mind you being bwave I dont really but when

all  of the huffing and puffing is done behind a computer.

I kind i think what bloody wankers... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yep abuse cods.... easy peasy.......

go and kick the bee hive.. stupid..

come on longy has his mobile ready...I want to see this.. and I sure hope pansi does as well..

I will come back and see how its going and when you plan to put it on ozpol...

I cant wait.. I really cant..I am so excited...




Still not getting it are you.

If (I know, I know, you don't do hypotheticals. But just try and stick with this for a second), if, you had argued that this kind of cartoon was not freedom of speech because it is an attack on others, you could have an argument and not be a coward. But the moment you said that these cartoons/attacks on Christians/Buddhist/Hindus/ or any other group or party was ok because they won't shoot you, but it was wrong to do it to Muslims because they will, you showed that you are a gutless wonder.

You have not argued that these kind of cartoons should not be made at all (I find them disgusting and wouldn't ever consider buying one, so it is not as if I'm protecting the papar), but you have made it clear that you are ok with these magazines being made as long as it doesn't upset Muslims because they are violent. That is cowardly! That is saying that it is ok to attack those who won't defend themselves, but be nice to those who will. Complete yellow gutlessbuggeringwonder type cowardly. 



Enough abuse... cods is cods and is entitled to a view.. we can argue that view with reason
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Reply #35 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:06pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:38am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:24am:
What some of you dimwits don't seem to understand is that events have made the reprints of these cartoons absolutely inevitable.  There is no choice in the matter.  The terrorist attack has made the issue of freedom of speech the singular and paramount one.  And there was only one option and ever only one.

PUSH BACK.  PRINT THE CARTOONS.  yes, they are offensive and probably unnecessary.  But freedom of speech doesn't only protect nice speech.  These truly dimwitted terrorists attacked something we simply cannot ignore and cannot acquiesce to - our right to speak.

If we went back in our holes and decided not to offend them then we automatically lose the entire war, not just a battle.  Islamic Terrorism isn't about cartoons. It is about our entire way of life and the intrinsic freedoms we have and the right to express them. We either defend our way of life or not.  Occasionally a lightening rod for issues like this appear and this terrorist attack is such a one.

If I could, I would buy a copy of this magazine, not because I particularly want to but to make a statement to terrorists that the more they seek to attack our way of life the more we will defend it.

It is one of those rare moments in time where we have the power to tell the Islamic world that we will not be told what we can and cannot do.

You cods, do not see it as you cower at home.



I am abit sick of you.. calling me names when you are a well known Paedo supporter... Angry Angry

look down on me for thinking it is totally stupid to print a cartoon that will end up KILLING people....

do you think the violence IS OVER b ecause you stand on your toilet and tell them you will stand up for FREEDOM OF CARTOON DRAWING.???

so the good people of France and Belgium now cowering in their homes wondering whos next whilst the armed forces fill the streets is nothing to worry about....we bwave people in Australia are pointing ugly fingers at each other.....we are so bwave...anyone who has a difference of opinion.. we can abuse as much as we like...

a  RARE moment in time...what a joke you are....

lets see you call these extremists DIMWITTED to their faces we have a ffew in this country you wont have far to look for them.. lets see bwave longy who wouldnt dream of sitting on his couch....and telling a widow what he thinks of her.. but not telling murdering fanatics to their faces what he thinks of them

come on paedo supporter... lets see you get off your couch and do what you claim you would do.......tell em to suck it up......come on I cant wait to see this..get that camera out..lets film it... if you live you could actually make some money out of it.. Grin Grin


and this is why when I was one of the few people that stood up for you, I now no longer do.  You are a weirdo,
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Reply #36 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:12pm
 
nasus wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:07am:
However n our society there are some who are allowed more freedom of speech and expression that others.

If a person is to the far right and wants to protest about immigration being to lax etc, they want a peaceful protest to have their voices heard, Stiff, it won't happen in our free country.
If on the other hand you belong to the far left, are muslim, or some other green cause or just weird, you are allowed a great deal more tolerance and get less hassle than others.
Unions can pretty well close down the city, they are united, crap. 

What is disappointing is even telling a joke that offends someone is no longer allowed, no more Irish jokes, sad.
No more great cartoons no more anything, and it's going to get worse before it might get better.  Angry



The far right can protest as much as any other group. You guys just need Alan Jones to get you all fired up, even then it turns into a fizzer....too lazy or not passionate enough?

Who said telling jokes or printing cartoons is no longer allowed is no longer allowed?

You can print a cartoon ridiculing or offending the prophet Mohammed any time you like. Who's stopping you?

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Reply #37 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:20pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:05pm:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:09am:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:43am:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:44am:
Cods is a spineless coward. The reason she is a coward is because she has made it very clear that making fun of Christians/buhudist/Hindus/etc is fair game because they won't shoot you. Muslims will shoot you, so it is best not to "kick the beehive".

If she was making an argument that these kind of cartoons are hate speach and should not be permitted to be made about anyone, that in itself would raise an interesting debate about freedom of speech, but at least it would not be from being a complete wimp.

So this issue isn't really about freedom of speech. It is about how far we as a society are willing to go to appease one particular fanatical religion. In cods view, you can kick the shlt out of everyone else because they won't kill you for it, but because Muslims are dangerous don't "kick the beehive". Gutless! 



oops how about joining longy    and you bwave boys can tell them to their face what you think of them and what you will do for FREEDOM OF SPEECH... Grin..

I dont mind you being bwave I dont really but when

all  of the huffing and puffing is done behind a computer.

I kind i think what bloody wankers... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yep abuse cods.... easy peasy.......

go and kick the bee hive.. stupid..

come on longy has his mobile ready...I want to see this.. and I sure hope pansi does as well..

I will come back and see how its going and when you plan to put it on ozpol...

I cant wait.. I really cant..I am so excited...




Still not getting it are you.

If (I know, I know, you don't do hypotheticals. But just try and stick with this for a second), if, you had argued that this kind of cartoon was not freedom of speech because it is an attack on others, you could have an argument and not be a coward. But the moment you said that these cartoons/attacks on Christians/Buddhist/Hindus/ or any other group or party was ok because they won't shoot you, but it was wrong to do it to Muslims because they will, you showed that you are a gutless wonder.

You have not argued that these kind of cartoons should not be made at all (I find them disgusting and wouldn't ever consider buying one, so it is not as if I'm protecting the papar), but you have made it clear that you are ok with these magazines being made as long as it doesn't upset Muslims because they are violent. That is cowardly! That is saying that it is ok to attack those who won't defend themselves, but be nice to those who will. Complete yellow gutlessbuggeringwonder type cowardly. 



Enough abuse... cods is cods and is entitled to a view.. we can argue that view with reason


Nup. I tried politeness. I tried to explain it very carefully. Got told I'm one of the "pedo protectors" and mocked as pretending to be a hero. Stuff her. She has, as she would call it, kicked the "beehive".
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Reply #38 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:36pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Nup. I tried politeness. I tried to explain it very carefully. Got told I'm one of the "pedo protectors" and mocked as pretending to be a hero. Stuff her. She has, as she would call it, kicked the "beehive".



Be nice to cods longy, that's the right thing to do.
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Reply #39 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:40pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:06pm:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:38am:
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:24am:
You cods, do not see it as you cower at home.



I am abit sick of you.. calling me names when you are a well known Paedo supporter... Angry Angry

come on paedo supporter... lets see you get off your couch and do what you claim you would do.......tell em to suck it up......come on I cant wait to see this..get that camera out..lets film it... if you live you could actually make some money out of it.. Grin Grin


and this is why when I was one of the few people that stood up for you, I now no longer do.  You are a weirdo,



So it seems you got your socks mixed up there longy.
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Reply #40 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:43pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:36pm:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Nup. I tried politeness. I tried to explain it very carefully. Got told I'm one of the "pedo protectors" and mocked as pretending to be a hero. Stuff her. She has, as she would call it, kicked the "beehive".



Be nice to cods longy, that's the right thing to do.


Stop accusing people of being someone's sock and treating them like they are that person. That is the normal sensible thing to do (hence why you will never be able to stop because you are an arrogant retard)
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Reply #41 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:47pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:46am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:11am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:05am:
It seems that freediver and his cohorts are not prepared to go to the mosque and express their anger, so they're not taking freedom of speech too seriously.

They're appeasers.

How far will they go to appease the Muslim extremists?

How far are they backing away from free speech in order to save their own sorry asses?

Go to the mosque boys!!! Today.


How many times have you visited a Synagogue or Catholic Church to express your distaste pansi??



We don't have a synagogue here, but I told the Baptist pastor it was a load of croc and I wasn't happy that he didn't lead his parishioners in the path of Jesus. I told him he was hypocritical and sinful in telling his parishioners to re mortgage their homes so he could build a bigger church for God, of course for God.

I wrote to the Catholic Church and told them to be honest about the pedo ring they were protecting.

When the Mormons or JW's come to my door I ask them if they think perhaps they have been brainwashed. I am always polite in my criticism, it's the only way.

Besides, I have no real fight with religion I just like to have petty stabs from time to time, but I would never agree to publishing really insulting cartoons of any god, that goes below the belt in my opinion.

It's one thing to make fun of religions, quite another to be totally offensive.

It's your fight with Islam, not mine.

Carry on.


And drawing cartoons of long dead religious figures is making fun of a religion, NOT 'being totally offensive'...

Ok the written comments about Mo marrying a 6 yr old might be offensive...but the cartoons generally weren't above the making fun level.
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Reply #42 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:51pm
 
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:48am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:33am:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:27am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:11am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 7:05am:
It seems that freediver and his cohorts are not prepared to go to the mosque and express their anger, so they're not taking freedom of speech too seriously.

They're appeasers.

How far will they go to appease the Muslim extremists?

How far are they backing away from free speech in order to save their own sorry asses?

Go to the mosque boys!!! Today.


How many times have you visited a Synagogue or Catholic Church to express your distaste pansi??



what distaste is that gizmo...

I for one am very much against all this cartoon crap that is neither funny nor helpful...doesnt do any good just makes someone I presume rich at someone elses expense..I find that pretty sad... just quietly

and if its called FREEDOM OF SPEECH even sadder.

I dont care what religion it is... its in appalling taste.

of all the cartoons shown on this forum.. can you honestly say you have had a belly laugh out of one of them?


Pansi's distaste for Israel(Jews) over defending themselves against the extremists in Gaza and the Catholic Church over the child molesting thing.

Although, I think fronting a place of worship to hassle the congregation might cross the line between Freedom of Expression (which is the Common Law right that Australia uses) into the realms of hate speech.



come on gizmo....dont deflect... we are talking about a group who threatened to kill....,.. the Church has been more than taken to task over its cover ups.. it is being dealt with..

as for Gaza to me its six of one half a dozen of the other....if she was going to confront the Jews.. she needs to confront the Arabs as well...


I'm NOT deflecting cods...it's the central point of the discussion, i.e how many people have ( in recent years) been murdered for having a go at either the Catholic/Christian churches, or at Judaism, compared to how many have been killed for doing the same to Islam????

Death 'threats' aren't really relevant, since most death threats are never carried out, and are basically 'talking tough'.

edit..and Scientology, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans etc as well.
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Reply #43 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 1:04pm
 
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:20pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:05pm:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 11:09am:
cods wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 10:43am:
Quantum wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:44am:
Cods is a spineless coward. The reason she is a coward is because she has made it very clear that making fun of Christians/buhudist/Hindus/etc is fair game because they won't shoot you. Muslims will shoot you, so it is best not to "kick the beehive".

If she was making an argument that these kind of cartoons are hate speach and should not be permitted to be made about anyone, that in itself would raise an interesting debate about freedom of speech, but at least it would not be from being a complete wimp.

So this issue isn't really about freedom of speech. It is about how far we as a society are willing to go to appease one particular fanatical religion. In cods view, you can kick the shlt out of everyone else because they won't kill you for it, but because Muslims are dangerous don't "kick the beehive". Gutless! 



oops how about joining longy    and you bwave boys can tell them to their face what you think of them and what you will do for FREEDOM OF SPEECH... Grin..

I dont mind you being bwave I dont really but when

all  of the huffing and puffing is done behind a computer.

I kind i think what bloody wankers... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

yep abuse cods.... easy peasy.......

go and kick the bee hive.. stupid..

come on longy has his mobile ready...I want to see this.. and I sure hope pansi does as well..

I will come back and see how its going and when you plan to put it on ozpol...

I cant wait.. I really cant..I am so excited...




Still not getting it are you.

If (I know, I know, you don't do hypotheticals. But just try and stick with this for a second), if, you had argued that this kind of cartoon was not freedom of speech because it is an attack on others, you could have an argument and not be a coward. But the moment you said that these cartoons/attacks on Christians/Buddhist/Hindus/ or any other group or party was ok because they won't shoot you, but it was wrong to do it to Muslims because they will, you showed that you are a gutless wonder.

You have not argued that these kind of cartoons should not be made at all (I find them disgusting and wouldn't ever consider buying one, so it is not as if I'm protecting the papar), but you have made it clear that you are ok with these magazines being made as long as it doesn't upset Muslims because they are violent. That is cowardly! That is saying that it is ok to attack those who won't defend themselves, but be nice to those who will. Complete yellow gutlessbuggeringwonder type cowardly. 



Enough abuse... cods is cods and is entitled to a view.. we can argue that view with reason


Nup. I tried politeness. I tried to explain it very carefully. Got told I'm one of the "pedo protectors" and mocked as pretending to be a hero. Stuff her. She has, as she would call it, kicked the "beehive".


same here.  Cods is at her best quaint and rather silly but I defended here on numerous occasions.  But after her endless pedo claims - all because I think about issues and she simply reacts (like now) - she is on her own.
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Reply #44 - Jan 19th, 2015 at 1:20pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 12:12pm:
nasus wrote on Jan 19th, 2015 at 9:07am:
However n our society there are some who are allowed more freedom of speech and expression that others.

If a person is to the far right and wants to protest about immigration being to lax etc, they want a peaceful protest to have their voices heard, Stiff, it won't happen in our free country.
If on the other hand you belong to the far left, are muslim, or some other green cause or just weird, you are allowed a great deal more tolerance and get less hassle than others.
Unions can pretty well close down the city, they are united, crap. 

What is disappointing is even telling a joke that offends someone is no longer allowed, no more Irish jokes, sad.
No more great cartoons no more anything, and it's going to get worse before it might get better.  Angry



The far right can protest as much as any other group. You guys just need Alan Jones to get you all fired up, even then it turns into a fizzer....too lazy or not passionate enough?

Who said telling jokes or printing cartoons is no longer allowed is no longer allowed?

You can print a cartoon ridiculing or offending the prophet Mohammed any time you like. Who's stopping you?





The below quote, which we/YOU all know about, stop stirring, then speak you peace, Lol.  So much for drawing cartoons that NO-ONE will publish, or words that will never see the light of day. Hence, go to the dungeon.

Government Senator Cory Bernardi yesterday called for a review of Race Discrimination Act provisions which make it illegal to "insult or offend" people on the basis of race.

Human Rights Commissioner, Tim Wilson, says publications by Charlie Hebdo "would come into contradiction with section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act and would be censored in Australia."

He says Australia's current law imposes a "fundamental violation on freedom of speech".

"The fundamental underlying problem with this law [is] that it makes it unlawful to offend or insult somebody and that needs to be removed," he says.

"We really have to decide as a society are we going to go down the path of making unlawful to offend or insult people on the basis of their race, their religion or any other attribute?" he says.

"Or are we going to do the sensible and pragmatic thing and restrict public harassment on the basis of any number of things which is a very different proposition from being merely offended or insulted?"

He has joined calls for a renewed debate on freedom of speech laws, which he says would have prevented Charlie Hebdo publishing here.

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"I may not believe in what you say, however I will defend unto death your right to say it". Attributed to Voltaire. Freedom of speech a right we must regain.
 
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