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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #405 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 5:39pm

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:44pm:

There ya go, right on cue. More false allegation.

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Your blindness to the world does not in any way negate the world's existence.

Show me where I said the World does not exist?

No problem. Right after you quote me saying that you said the world does not exist. Again Aussie, this is demonstrating nothing more than your misunderstanding.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #406 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 5:49pm

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 5:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:44pm:

There ya go, right on cue. More false allegation.

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Your blindness to the world does not in any way negate the world's existence.

Show me where I said the World does not exist?

No problem. Right after you quote me saying that you said the world does not exist. Again Aussie, this is demonstrating nothing more than your misunderstanding.

Let's finally cut to the chase, freediver. Post now, your concise definition of 'freedom of speech" and include all the 'buts' you think are necessary. Over to you.

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Reply #408 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:16pm

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Are you asking me for the complete concise definition, or the concise complete definition?

Take your pick. You choose. It is time (well beyond time) you were called out to actually say something positive, instead of what is always just questions.....like your post under this reply.

Come on freediver, show us what you have. "Blind us with your intellect."

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Reply #409 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:41pm

red baron wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Freedom of speech is in full flight on this site Aussie. It is just you who has his own 'lawyerised', convoluted view on things.

Just because you believe it to be so, doesn't make it so. I don't see legion of supporters flocking to your peculiar point of view.

have you tried calling someone the M word by any chance?

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Reply #410 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:59pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Are you asking me for the complete concise definition, or the concise complete definition?

Take your pick. You choose. It is time (well beyond time) you were called out to actually say something positive, instead of what is always just questions.....like your post under this reply.

Come on freediver, show us what you have. "Blind us with your intellect."

Well... it looks like he couldn't. He ran away instead.

Now can you see why I started the "Ozpol Communication Issues" topic down in your forum?

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Reply #411 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:31pm

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:29pm:

OK Aussie, I will dumb it down even more for you. Freedom of speech gives you the right to say things. It does not give you the right to post them on someone else's website. That is a privilege, not a right. Making it a right would turn your freedom into a right to compel things from other people.

I'm not on your side of politics, I think the cartoons sucked and were pretty unnecessary, and I also think the word filter is a bit silly... but you are correct on this FD.

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Reply #412 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:36pm

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Freedom of speech is in full flight on this site Aussie. It is just you who has his own 'lawyerised', convoluted view on things.

Just because you believe it to be so, doesn't make it so. I don't see legion of supporters flocking to your peculiar point of view.

have you tried calling someone the M word by any chance?

So the point didn't get through last time. This site is private property, think of it like a pub, there is no FoS on private property beyond what the owner gives you. You may not like it but that's the facts of the matter. Just because FD believes in FoS does not mean that he has to let you publish here. You are welcome to publish that FD is a nice person anywhere else you like, why does he have to let you onto his property to do it? Your FoS does not give you property rights over FD's property.

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Reply #413 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:44pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Freedom of speech is in full flight on this site Aussie. It is just you who has his own 'lawyerised', convoluted view on things.

Just because you believe it to be so, doesn't make it so. I don't see legion of supporters flocking to your peculiar point of view.

have you tried calling someone the M word by any chance?

So the point didn't get through last time. This site is private property, think of it like a pub, there is no FoS on private property beyond what the owner gives you. You may not like it but that's the facts of the matter. Just because FD believes in FoS does not mean that he has to let you publish here. You are welcome to publish that FD is a nice person anywhere else you like, why does he have to let you onto his property to do it? Your FoS does not give you property rights over FD's property.

I 'get' that Setanta. No problem. All I am asking is that freediver define this thing ~ freedom of speech ~ he has been defending. On the last occasion he made a trivial attempt.....there was a 'but.'

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Reply #414 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:05pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:09pm:

Are you asking me for the complete concise definition, or the concise complete definition?

Take your pick. You choose. It is time (well beyond time) you were called out to actually say something positive, instead of what is always just questions.....like your post under this reply.

Come on freediver, show us what you have. "Blind us with your intellect."

You've got me cornered here Aussie. There is no way I could come up with a definition that is both complete, concise, and impervious to your powers of misunderstanding.

What is wrong with "the right to say something you might not like"? Too concise?

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Reply #415 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:16pm

You could 'build a bridge' and see how you go with common sense. That ought to work. Further, I'm quite sure there are many, many Members here who would not have the malaise, the blight I have....of always misunderstanding you. They too would be pleased to see you actually produce something worth debating......you know.............."Freedom of Speech, as defined by freediver."

Don't ask that goldfish again. This time......you tell ....... not me, cos I'll misunderstand as you say..............the rest of your Forum. "Blind them with your amazing intellect."

By the way, it's 'nice to see you back. We missed you.'

Over to you freediver.

Edit.....I'm gonna have to start quoting you to catch what I am replying to. You added.....

"What is wrong with "the right to say something you might not like"? Too concise? ' Nasty that, freediver.

We've already dealt with that one.....and you added a 'but' to it. We are after a definition for Freedom of Speech which does not include the word....'but.'

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Reply #416 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:17pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:44pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

cods wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 6:41pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:31pm:

Freedom of speech is in full flight on this site Aussie. It is just you who has his own 'lawyerised', convoluted view on things.

Just because you believe it to be so, doesn't make it so. I don't see legion of supporters flocking to your peculiar point of view.

have you tried calling someone the M word by any chance?

So the point didn't get through last time. This site is private property, think of it like a pub, there is no FoS on private property beyond what the owner gives you. You may not like it but that's the facts of the matter. Just because FD believes in FoS does not mean that he has to let you publish here. You are welcome to publish that FD is a nice person anywhere else you like, why does he have to let you onto his property to do it? Your FoS does not give you property rights over FD's property.

I 'get' that Setanta. No problem. All I am asking is that freediver define this thing ~ freedom of speech ~ he has been defending. On the last occasion he made a trivial attempt.....there was a 'but.'

Yeah, that was to Cods, she thinks FD should allow her to call FD a M.or.on here and that the filter is an abridgement of her FoS. Maybe you could have a word with her about it.

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Reply #417 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:11pm

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You could 'build a bridge' and see how you go with common sense. That ought to work. Further, I'm quite sure there are many, many Members here who would not have the malaise, the blight I have....of always misunderstanding you.

Funny thing is, they haven't asked. Or at least, some did originally ask, but fell silent once a dedicated thread was started. Maybe everyone does know what freedom of speech means. Except you of course. I accept that you don't know.

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We've already dealt with that one.....and you added a 'but' to it. We are after a definition for Freedom of Speech which does not include the word....'but.'

You initially asked for all the buts. Now you want no buts? And it has to be both concise and complete?

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Reply #418 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:12pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

I 'get' that Setanta. No problem. All I am asking is that freediver define this thing ~ freedom of speech ~ he has been defending. On the last occasion he made a trivial attempt.....there was a 'but.'

Yeah, that was to Cods, she thinks FD should allow her to call FD a M.or.on here and that the filter is an abridgement of her FoS. Maybe you could have a word with her about i

not quiet.... I was suggesting to R.B.. in reply to his comment

[quote author red baron Freedom of speech is in full flight on this site Aussie. It is just you who has his own 'lawyerised', convoluted view on things. [/quote]

why dont you try reading everything... then you wouldnt look like you are waiting to pounce.on anything and everything.

] how is the crawling to fd going???.... Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49202 At my desk.	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #419 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:16pm You are wrong to use the word "thinks". Cods does not know what to think yet. She only posts, over and over again.
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