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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11543 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #435 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:29am Appeasing Islam, bad move ................ a very, very bad move!
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Panther Gold Member Offline My Heart beats True for the Red White & Blue... Posts: 11543 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #436 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:30am What he said ........ caving in to Islam, again, again, & yet again will be the death knell to the Freedom of Speech, & just about everything else we hold sacred as well.
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Reply #437 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:47am

A man who won't die for something is not fit to live. - Martin Luther King

how interesting...

a man who wont DIE for something......wow.....

do you think martin luther king had a cartoon in mind when he said that???>........

I dont really think he did..... bu it has been a while since I have seen insulting cartoons of American Negroes....so what would I know?

maybe they were around before he was SHOT...

oh thats right he died for FREEDOM OF SPEECH didnt he?...

insulting American Negroes is fine...keep going.

what a shame the extremists dont see How M.L.King saw the world..

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Reply #438 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:49am

Panther wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:30am:

What he said ........ caving in to Islam, again, again, & yet again will be the death knell to the Freedom of Speech, & just about everything else we hold sacred as well.

that what I see fd looking like......full of fear...and guess what even more HATE than the extremists...

it is all about HATE you know...I hate you more than you hate me. Tongue

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49315 At my desk.	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #440 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.
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Reply #441 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:59am

cods wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 10:47am:

A man who won't die for

something

is not fit to live. - Martin Luther King

how interesting...

a man who wont DIE for something
......wow.....

do you think martin luther king had a cartoon in mind when he said that???>........

I dont really think he did..... .

When MLK said
'something'
, I believe his meaning was it could be 'simply anything' anyone, through their own freedom of will & choice, it could be anything anyone so chooses to be worth enough to oneself to die for.

If that be a 'cartoon' or even a 'woman', & they freely chooses that, so be their will.....their choice.

Anything more you need to know of the probable mindset of MLK, hunt up a clairvoyant, &
have a chat to the guy himself.......yourself.

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Reply #442 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:15pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:54am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:

There is no such absolute thing as Freedom of Speech.

oh god isnt that what I have been saying all along????

arggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Exactly, everything has its limits. Every action has a reaction.

We are yet to get freedom of speech, without consequences.

because such a thing is not possible. Freedom to speak does not imply there are no consequences in the natural world.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #443 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.

Its a lost cause. People with principles and pride and even a moderate spine, understand the Charlie Hedbo reaction perfectly and it needs no explanation. Cowards and those without principles will not and can not understand it and never will. Luckily for all, the former are having sway.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #444 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:21pm

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.

We talked about the Charlie Hebdo massacre and free speech more generally, and I said to Jerry that the reason I'm so forthright about this issue is that I sincerely have no wish to live in the world these guys are building for us. And by "these guys" I mean not just the "Allahu Akbar!" crazies but a western left that thinks it can mediate relations between Islam and free societies if the rest of us just agree to let our liberties be a little more constrained. Nuts to that.

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Reply #445 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:28pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.

Its a lost cause. People with principles and pride and even a moderate spine, understand the Charlie Hedbo reaction perfectly and it needs no explanation. Cowards and those without principles will not and can not understand it and never will. Luckily for all, the former are having sway.

cowards, lol. You dont understand cowardice nor bravery.

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Reply #446 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:15pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

cods wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 7:54am:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:00pm:

There is no such absolute thing as Freedom of Speech.

oh god isnt that what I have been saying all along????

arggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Exactly, everything has its limits. Every action has a reaction.

We are yet to get freedom of speech, without consequences.

because such a thing is not possible. Freedom to speak does not imply there are no consequences in the natural world.

Strange, I use it all the time, & I know people everywhere that do the same, without 'consequence' of any kind.

It's just when some irrational, over zealous, gutless mobsters & cowards, decide in their infinite wisdom -- molded by a book of Satanic Verses, that in their mind being insulted, or even the perception of being insulted, requires irrational action on their part, requires them to kill the supposed aforementioned insulters, while all known legitimate rational is forced to stand on it's head!

Appease that?

Never!

That scum isn't worthy of licking Charlie Hebdo's sweaty balls!

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Reply #447 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:54pm

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.

Its a lost cause. People with principles and pride and even a moderate spine, understand the Charlie Hedbo reaction perfectly and it needs no explanation. Cowards and those without principles will not and can not understand it and never will. Luckily for all, the former are having sway.

cowards, lol. You dont understand cowardice nor bravery.

I suspect you have no idea of either term.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #448 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 2:53pm

I don't see what Martin Luther King has to do with the bearing on this topic, his quote is just words used by someone with a very large political agenda. King in my humble opinion had no idea what freedom of speech was all about, all he used his speech for was to challenge the establishment and incite his followers, all 2 of them to do his biding. There are better examples of freedom of speech figure heads, with a much more worthy cause.
I am wondering having returned from my 3 day "into the wilderness time" that is someone 50 years from now read this forum post, if they would have any clue what the hell we wrote about. Back and fro, many losing the plot and cowards cower in the corner, who miss the whole plot, if there ever was one. Cool

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"I may not believe in what you say, however I will defend unto death your right to say it". Attributed to Voltaire. Freedom of speech a right we must regain.

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Reply #449 - Jan 26^th, 2015 at 2:56pm

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

ian wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:28pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2015 at 11:22am:

Cods is simply incapable of maintaining, or even starting, a discussion about the likely consequences of adopting her spineless appeasement of terrorists. The best she can do is repeat herself. Appease terrorists, no dead cartoonists, stop thinking now.

Its a lost cause. People with principles and pride and even a moderate spine, understand the Charlie Hedbo reaction perfectly and it needs no explanation. Cowards and those without principles will not and can not understand it and never will. Luckily for all, the former are having sway.

cowards, lol. You dont understand cowardice nor bravery.

I suspect you have no idea of either term.

you are an academic, the closest you have ever come to physical confrontation like most of the blow hards on this forum was getting spanked by your parents decades ago yet you lecture others on cowardice.

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