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Reply #525 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:08am

cods wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:00am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:52am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:38am:

I thank my God that I have always lived in places where a man, all men, had the right to be free, & life affected by conditions & statements like yours are totally unacceptable & non-existent.

You live in a place where there's no rules?

No, I've lived in places where the rules were made by wise men, men who understand that Freedom & Liberty is far, far, more important than being offended by trivial issues & words.

so if people call your children ugly cows...

you will fight to the death for their FREEDOM to say that?....

I would like to see that!!!! Roll Eyes

Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #526 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:09am

cods wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:10am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:00am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:52am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 5:38am:

I thank my God that I have always lived in places where a man, all men, had the right to be free, & life affected by conditions & statements like yours are totally unacceptable & non-existent.

You live in a place where there's no rules?

No, I've lived in places where the rules were made by wise men, men who understand that Freedom & Liberty is far, far, more important than being offended by trivial issues & words.

so if people call your children ugly cows...

you will fight to the death for their FREEDOM to say that?....

I would like to see that!!!! Roll Eyes

Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference.

They are free to say whatever they want about my kids, but as stipulated to before, they must be willing to accept the consequences to their expressions.

Hmmmm, I could choose a good old fashioned bitch slappin', one at a time.

Nahhhhh.

That is unless they are ugly cows, then I might just leave them to fend for themselves, they're quite capable....I've taught them well.

Never know, I might just ignore it, & they might just do the same......

Freedom is grand, ain't it!

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #527 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:11am Suffer dementia much, dearie. Remember the 'prodding the tiger' remarks that you repeated probably half a dozen times. I don't lie Cods, I can however, perceive the true meaning that lies under people's words.
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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #528 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:16am

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:11am:

Suffer dementia much, dearie. Remember the 'prodding the tiger' remarks that you repeated probably half a dozen times. I don't lie Cods, I can however, perceive the true meaning that lies under people's words.

no I didnt prod the tiger that was someone else.. I used the angry bees.....

and I have never ever said THEY DESERVED TO DIE...

ever you are not a nice person to twist what someone says...I said that was the consequences.. of their actions..

like most people we all think it wont happen to us...it only happens to others....these people were no different...

what bothered me was they had a CHOICE....

you are they one that says FOS was worth dying for...

NOT I. Angry

and I find your comment despicable.

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Reply #529 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:20am

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference

well... now we twist another word....this is a FREEDOM OF SPEECH THREAD.

perhaps you need to start your own on RIGHT TO SPEAK thread....... weird.

suddenly you are now talking consequences??..hilarious..

when I pointed out the consequences of the cartoons I was shouted down... Roll Eyes

..we did try to point out everything has consequences.... we cannot pick and choose the ones that suit us.

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Reply #530 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am

cods wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:08am:

Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference

well... now we twist another word....this is a FREEDOM OF SPEECH THREAD.

perhaps you need to start your own on RIGHT TO SPEAK thread....... weird.

suddenly you are now talking consequences??..hilarious..

when I pointed out the consequences of the cartoons I was shouted down... Roll Eyes

..we did try to point out everything has consequences.... we cannot pick and choose the ones that suit us.

One has the Right to Free Speech, that is what many would die defending if the chips fell that way.....their Right to the Speech.

I can't help it if you need things so cut & dry, so black & white, but if you are wanting to discuss with people you need to grey out a lil -- loosen yer belt a bit.

I don't speak for anyone but myself.

I told you you had the right to your opinions, & you are free to speak your mind a while back, & you were thankful then......remember?

So, I'd appreciat it if you extend to me the same right, as you wish others to extend to you.

Fair?

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Reply #531 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:42am

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

sted by: DreamRyderX Posted on: Today at 9:32am
cods wrote Today at 9:20am:
DreamRyderX wrote Today at 9:08am:
Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference

well... now we twist another word....this is a FREEDOM OF SPEECH THREAD.

perhaps you need to start your own on RIGHT TO SPEAK thread....... weird.

suddenly you are now talking consequences??..hilarious..

when I pointed out the consequences of the cartoons I was shouted down... ..we did try to point out everything has consequences.... we cannot pick and choose the ones that suit us.

One has the Right to Free Speech, that is what many would die defending if the chips fell that way.....their Right to the Speech.

I can't help it if you need things so cut & dry, so black & white, but if you are wanting to discuss with people you need to grey out a lil -- loosen yer belt a bit.

I don't speak for anyone but myself.

I told you you had the right to your opinions, & you are free to speak your mind a while back, & you were thankful then......remember?

So, I'd appreciat it if you extend to me the same right, as you wish others to extend to you.

Fair?

absolutely....over and out..

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #532 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:00am

cods wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:42am:

Panther wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

sted by: DreamRyderX Posted on: Today at 9:32am
cods wrote Today at 9:20am:
DreamRyderX wrote Today at 9:08am:
Not their Freedom to say that, their Right to say that. There's a difference

well... now we twist another word....this is a FREEDOM OF SPEECH THREAD.

perhaps you need to start your own on RIGHT TO SPEAK thread....... weird.

suddenly you are now talking consequences??..hilarious..

when I pointed out the consequences of the cartoons I was shouted down... ..we did try to point out everything has consequences.... we cannot pick and choose the ones that suit us.

One has the Right to Free Speech, that is what many would die defending if the chips fell that way.....their Right to the Speech.

I can't help it if you need things so cut & dry, so black & white, but if you are wanting to discuss with people you need to grey out a lil -- loosen yer belt a bit.

I don't speak for anyone but myself.

I told you you had the right to your opinions, & you are free to speak your mind a while back, & you were thankful then......remember?

So, I'd appreciat it if you extend to me the same right, as you wish others to extend to you.

Fair?

absolutely....over and out..

Great!

Just for the record, I'd like to reiterate here my stance......what I said...my position:

Panther wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 9:00am:

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 7:16am:

This is a matter of principle. People were MURDERED in the name of some religion that doesn't like comics and so we are duty-bound to step up and defend a freedom of speech that we don't really approve of or care about. Do you get that? We are not defending a comic but a principle.

At some point in time we all have to stand up for things that are important. The particular circumstance is immaterial, but the principle is not.

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As I've always said, I may vehemently disagree with what you've said or done, & argued to all ends of this earth, but I will defend your Right to say or do what you do (Freedom of Speech/Expression) with my last drop of blood, with my very life, so help me God.

I've stood side by side with many brave men who have done exactly that.

They laid down their lives so we can exercise our freedom to say what we say, & do what we do.

To that I am eternally grateful.

May they rest in peace.

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #533 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:27am I absolutely think freedom of speech is worth dying for. I just find it hilarious when an old crochet hat wearing bingo addict defends the actions of terrorists.
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Reply #534 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:34am

You really are an intellectual cripple, aren't you Cods. The freedom relates to the FREEDOM of people being able to SPEAK their views. Censorship, black bans, postal bans, restricting travel movements,imprisonment are just examples of the steps governments take to stop people from even SPEAKING. That's right, governments all around the world clamour to stop people from even SPEAKING. Tony Abbott got Pauline Hanson jailed just because she had the nerve to TALK about Australia's immigration policy. David Irving can't even travel to Australia. Cod's, I really think you don't have a clue.

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Reply #535 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:16pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

You really are an intellectual cripple, aren't you
. The freedom relates to the FREEDOM of people being able to SPEAK their views. Censorship, black bans, postal bans, restricting travel movements,imprisonment are just examples of the steps governments take to stop people from even SPEAKING. That's right, governments all around the world clamour to stop people from even SPEAKING. Tony Abbott got Pauline Hanson jailed just because she had the nerve to TALK about Australia's immigration policy. David Irving can't even travel to Australia. Cod's, I really think you don't have a clue.

Coming from Lucky! Cheesy

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #536 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:21pm Oh touche, spastic.
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Reply #537 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:28pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 12:21pm:

Oh touche, spastic.

if the boot fits.. Angry

..I am not sure your language is suitable for this thread.....perhaps you could go somewhere like the mens shed where it might be appreciated....

this is MY thread and I dont care for your type...

you cannot talk without the abuse then .. go somewhere else please.

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Reply #538 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:03pm

Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

You really are an intellectual cripple, aren't you Cods. The freedom relates to the FREEDOM of people being able to SPEAK their views. Censorship, black bans, postal bans, restricting travel movements,imprisonment are just examples of the steps governments take to stop people from even SPEAKING. That's right, governments all around the world clamour to stop people from even SPEAKING. Tony Abbott got Pauline Hanson jailed just because she had the nerve to TALK about Australia's immigration policy. David Irving can't even travel to Australia. Cod's, I really think you don't have a clue.

This is true as far as I can see

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Happy Lucky Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1030 Gender:	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #539 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:44pm You thoroughly deserve it you nasty old crone.
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