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Reply #615 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:43pm
 
So much for women's lib and equality. Only when it suits them. GrinCheesy
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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.
 
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Reply #616 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:43pm
 
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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.
 
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Reply #617 - Feb 11th, 2015 at 10:40pm
 
Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 8:31pm:

Yadda you'll have to stop posting.

Your comments are just too logical.




'That does not compute.'

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Yadda,        ...bot, automaton.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #618 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:53am
 
rhino wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Well done cods. The consequence of not appeasing terrorists is you get to keep your freedom of speech. Now, what do you think the likely consequences of your appeasement would be?



what makes you think I have my FREEDOM OF SPEECH............

I cant use it on this forum.... whats free about that??

Good point Cods, very good point.




did you notice fd never came back..to justify him taking away our fos on his forum?..I mean we are talking about a guy who will KILL for his own FoS...yet deprives others of theirs when it suits him.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I keep telling him there is no such thing as FoS...but he wont have it. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #619 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:19am
 
cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:39pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 9:14pm:
cods wrote on Feb 10th, 2015 at 9:50pm:
I am sure you will know exactly what to do if one of them comes looking for you. Angry



Yes. Not surrender to him.  If ALL stopped surrendering to various monsters' sensitivities, we could defeat them.  But your instinct is precisely to give in to the guys who threaten and carry out violence and murder.  You are actually incentivising, encouraging violence because you cave into it, no matter who wrong it is. YOU MAKE VIOLENCE EFFECTIVE.

You are a classic collaborator. You will submit to any evil as long as it is violent.




Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

you sound so bwave sitting in your nice computer room.....or have you taken yourself down to the Police station where the poor cops now have the two "terrorists" who were planning on chopping a head off in Sydney....I would think the cops would like nothing better than a big bwave body like you down there so they can go home to their wives and families...

off you go.. I do not believe for one moment you would stand up to evil...and stare it down.....

at least not until I read about you in the morning paper...

off you go.... words on here dont quite do it for me...

off you go it was very noticeable that during the :Lindt Cafe seige it was the men that ran for their lives first..

very noticeable...... but give me some faith in our manhood... and get yourself down there and deal with these terrorists as you claim you would... Grin Grin



On the other hand, in your case, not even your words are brave.

If everyone spoke out against them and their ideology and aims, if everyone printed the cartoons and books and critical articles, if everyone ridiculed them, if everyone stood by their hard-won Western liberties and values, the monsters would have no chance.

But a lot of people like you give in to them as an opening gambit and take it from there.
Shame.

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Reply #620 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:45am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:19am:
On the other hand, in your case, not even your words are brave.

If everyone spoke out against them and their ideology and aims, if everyone printed the cartoons and books and critical articles, if everyone ridiculed them, if everyone stood by their hard-won Western liberties and values, the monsters would have no chance.

But a lot of people like you give in to them as an opening gambit and take it from there.
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you dont know that.. thats the point....so if people do what you claim they should do... and the shop next door to you sold said cartoons and infuriated these mad people into saying they will blow your whole street up......

you would still fight for the their right to print and sell these cartoons...
because that is what you are saying... or are you only saying it when it doesnt involve you directly???.....

you are saying you will fight to the death even if it means only YOUR death for FoS..

and you will rest in your grave knowing you have made a difference to the world of FoS... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

is the world a better safer place since those 17 people gave their lives for FoS??...
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Reply #621 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:30am
 
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:45am:
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:19am:
On the other hand, in your case, not even your words are brave.

If everyone spoke out against them and their ideology and aims, if everyone printed the cartoons and books and critical articles, if everyone ridiculed them, if everyone stood by their hard-won Western liberties and values, the monsters would have no chance.

But a lot of people like you give in to them as an opening gambit and take it from there.
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........is the world a better safer place since those 17 people gave their lives for FoS??...


No, not safer ...... yet ................. but definitely more aware because of FoS, more aware of the true Agendas of Islam.

Knowledge becomes power, & with that power civilization can overcome Islam's designed destruction of mankind.

Only then will the world be safer.  Smiley



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Reply #622 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:40am
 
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:53am:
rhino wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Well done cods. The consequence of not appeasing terrorists is you get to keep your freedom of speech. Now, what do you think the likely consequences of your appeasement would be?



what makes you think I have my FREEDOM OF SPEECH............

I cant use it on this forum.... whats free about that??

Good point Cods, very good point.




did you notice fd never came back..to justify him taking away our fos on his forum?..I mean we are talking about a guy who will KILL for his own FoS...yet deprives others of theirs when it suits him.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I keep telling him there is no such thing as FoS...but he wont have it. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
yes, who does that remind us of.
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Reply #623 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:37pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:45am:
and you will rest in your grave knowing you have made a difference to the world of FoS... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Absolutely. When the hour comes you can die like coward or as a hero, like Fabrizio Quattrocchi.



Quattrocchi's Islamist kidnappers forced him to dig his own grave and kneel beside it wearing a hood as they prepared to film his death, but he defied them by pulling off the hood and shouting "Vi faccio vedere come muore un Italiano!" - "I'll show you how an Italian dies!" He was then shot in the back of the neck.

The passengers on the plane that crashed in Virginia on 11 September 2001 also defied the hijackers. Their last words were "Let's roll." They prevented the plain from flying into the White House or whatever its gruesome target was.

You simply cannot, must not allow the bloody bullies to set the agenda. I am completely at a loss about your apparent argument for ceding the field and the initiative to them just because they are unacceptably violent. This strikes me as a morally reprehensible stance.



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Reply #624 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:39pm
 
rhino wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 10:40am:
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:53am:
rhino wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:59pm:
cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:37pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Well done cods. The consequence of not appeasing terrorists is you get to keep your freedom of speech. Now, what do you think the likely consequences of your appeasement would be?



what makes you think I have my FREEDOM OF SPEECH............

I cant use it on this forum.... whats free about that??

Good point Cods, very good point.




did you notice fd never came back..to justify him taking away our fos on his forum?..I mean we are talking about a guy who will KILL for his own FoS...yet deprives others of theirs when it suits him.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I keep telling him there is no such thing as FoS...but he wont have it. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
yes, who does that remind us of.



Er... Muslims??

Commies?

Fascists??

Other sworn enemies of free speech?


Tell us.

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Reply #625 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:10pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:37pm:
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:45am:
and you will rest in your grave knowing you have made a difference to the world of FoS... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Absolutely. When the hour comes you can die like coward or as a hero, like Fabrizio Quattrocchi.



Quattrocchi's Islamist kidnappers forced him to dig his own grave and kneel beside it wearing a hood as they prepared to film his death, but he defied them by pulling off the hood and shouting "Vi faccio vedere come muore un Italiano!" - "I'll show you how an Italian dies!" He was then shot in the back of the neck.

The passengers on the plane that crashed in Virginia on 11 September 2001 also defied the hijackers. Their last words were "Let's roll." They prevented the plain from flying into the White House or whatever its gruesome target was.

You simply cannot, must not allow the bloody bullies to set the agenda. I am completely at a loss about your apparent argument for ceding the field and the initiative to them just because they are unacceptably violent. This strikes me as a morally reprehensible stance.







and can you tell me how many other lives they have saved by this heroism???..

you do realise these people had no chance to live dont you...they werent given a choice.. like the CHarlie Hebdo people were...

some people face death very nobly and I say well done to them....did you think the men running out of the Lindt cafe looked brave???....after spending hours with a madman they left women and girls behind.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



can you tell me  where some brave aussie has gone into terrorist territory and rescued those next in line for decapitation???>.

there was only one gunman in the Lindt cafe.....of course no one knew if he had a bomb attached to his body...but by the way you think.. that should not have stopped anyone..from being brav e
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Reply #627 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:57pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:10pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:37pm:
cods wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:45am:
and you will rest in your grave knowing you have made a difference to the world of FoS... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Absolutely. When the hour comes you can die like coward or as a hero, like Fabrizio Quattrocchi.



Quattrocchi's Islamist kidnappers forced him to dig his own grave and kneel beside it wearing a hood as they prepared to film his death, but he defied them by pulling off the hood and shouting "Vi faccio vedere come muore un Italiano!" - "I'll show you how an Italian dies!" He was then shot in the back of the neck.

The passengers on the plane that crashed in Virginia on 11 September 2001 also defied the hijackers. Their last words were "Let's roll." They prevented the plain from flying into the White House or whatever its gruesome target was.

You simply cannot, must not allow the bloody bullies to set the agenda. I am completely at a loss about your apparent argument for ceding the field and the initiative to them just because they are unacceptably violent. This strikes me as a morally reprehensible stance.







and can you tell me how many other lives they have saved by this heroism???..

you do realise these people had no chance to live dont you...they werent given a choice.. like the CHarlie Hebdo people were...

some people face death very nobly and I say well done to them....did you think the men running out of the Lindt cafe looked brave???....after spending hours with a madman they left women and girls behind.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



can you tell me  where some brave aussie has gone into terrorist territory and rescued those next in line for decapitation???>.

there was only one gunman in the Lindt cafe.....of course no one knew if he had a bomb attached to his body...but by the way you think.. that should not have stopped anyone..from being brav e

I do not quite understand what you are saying. You seem to be saying al sorts of mushy thing without actually saying anything practical.

Life is about action while you are in it.

You seem to be on the side of action that is limited to basket weaving and kumbaya singing.

Are standing for anything else? I am not detecting anything from you but advocacy for unconditional surrender to violent bullies.


Too many evasive ' .... 's, too many one hand-other hand evasions, too much 'yeah but no but yeah but'.


Do you want to accommodate the Muslim bullies or do you want to stand up to them until they are made to cower and give up their bullying ways??


Are you woman or are you mouse?



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Reply #628 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:34pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
I do not quite understand what you are saying. You seem to be saying al sorts of mushy thing without actually saying anything practical.

Life is about action while you are in it.

You seem to be on the side of action that is limited to basket weaving and kumbaya singing.

Are standing for anything else? I am not detecting anything from you but advocacy for unconditional surrender to violent bullies.


Too many evasive ' .... 's, too many one hand-other hand evasions, too much 'yeah but no but yeah but'.


Do you want to accommodate the Muslim bullies or do you want to stand up to them until they are made to cower and give up their bullying ways??


Are you woman or are you mouse?




Yes cods thinks if we never stood up to violent bullies, all would be good, no-one would die.

Men like this WW2 Aussie were just regretful occurrences that would never have had to happen if we didn't stand up to those that would visit violence upon us.
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Reply #629 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 9:02pm
 
cods wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:33pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2015 at 4:26pm:
Well done cods. The consequence of not appeasing terrorists is you get to keep your freedom of speech. Now, what do you think the likely consequences of your appeasement would be?


well I cant think of anything worse than having ones head chopped off in  main street can you??..

and as the cartoons are still going and the mocking....you must be proud to stand up to these guys...

like I said fd when you find the answer to your irritating question.. [ i dont have a crystal ball].. letsus all in on it I am sure ASIO will be interested as well.


I know the answer cods. Everyone knows the answer. We have spent dozens of pages patiently explaining it to you. I was just wondering if any of this had sunk in or if you were capable of thinking more than one step ahead. Even if you don't agree with us, at least let us know whether you have any thoughts on it. All you seem capable of is repeating your idiotic mantra that if these cartoonists had kept their mouth shut they would still be alive. Are you trying to argue that this is the extent of the consequences, or is this literally the extent of your train of thought? It's like you are being enticed into the gas chambers with a trail of lollies while everyone is frantically trying to get your attention to let you know what is going on. You listen to what they say, then see another lolly and take another step, then tell them that all you did is pick up a lolly. Repeat 100 times.

In case you have forgotten already, the question is, what do you think would be the likely consequences of us adopting your strategy of spineless appeasement?
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