I wonder Cods.

Did you feel that same way when people kicked christianity, when people like madonna, martin scorcesee or the monty python gang ALL WHO MOCKED, CRITICISED OR JUST WANTED TO SHOW ANOTHER VERSION OF CHRIST.

DID YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT CODS, why dont you be fair for once ??????

We are argueing against Cods position, not telling her to stop saying what she wants to say about it.

I note that Cods has not really taken a backward step in this debate with you and few others, kind of makes the "appeaser" label look a wee bit silly if you look at it closely. Even despite Cods stated position being very much that of appeasment with regard specifically to nutjobs....It needs to be acknowledged she has not appeased you and others here.

Credit where it is due...

Not at all, what it appears that Cods has rejected, is the methodology used to criticise her, on the basis of her stated position.


She has squirmed every way she can think of. However when I did get through to her about whether there might be consequences to her appeasement, her response was that I was being pedantic and that such questions are hypothetical and thus not worth thinking about

Phem there was no basis in fact because you were all over the place with what you were saying. Your posts were for the most part indistinguishable from cods'.

Phem is someone came on here and insisted in thread after thread that we appease neo-Nazis, would you tell us all to respect their opinion and treat them with kid gloves because that is more effective?

Phem there was no basis in fact because you were all over the place with what you were saying. Your posts were for the most part indistinguishable from cods'.

freediver wrote on Feb 14^th, 2015 at 1:48pm:


Wow, seriously?

That's too funny. Speaking of jumping all over the place.

So, after putting your comment through the ACME forum waffle generator I now understand your comment above....

In short, you have no argument so, rather than concede you compare my posts to Cods presumably as some kind of insult... Oh and as a dismissal, because hey, you can't actually argue about what I wrote.

Nice way to jump all over the place there.

My post was really quite straight forward but keep up the good work.


(Edit) WRT the snide comparison, I cannot decide if you are trying to insult me or Cods... Just sayin...

Cods, scroll up 20cm. You'll see where you asked FD why it's ok to appease abusers but not manic terrorists? Dementia much?

We have an answer:

Copenhagen free speech debate shooting: One dead

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31472423

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Denmark is on high alert after a gunman in Copenhagen killed one person and injured three others at a debate on blasphemy and free speech attended by a controversial Swedish cartoonist.

Several dozen shots were fired at the seminar and a manhunt is now under way.

Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt described it as a "politically motivated" act of terrorism.

Cartoonist Lars Vilks, who has faced death threats over his caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, was unhurt.

Police initially believed there had been two suspects, but later said they were searching for a lone gunman.

They released a photograph showing the alleged attacker apparently wearing a purple balaclava and thick puffer jacket.

The three injured were police officers.

An audio recording, obtained exclusively by the BBC, revealed the moments leading up to the attack.

One of the speakers at the debate, which took place at a cafe and concerned the limits of free speech, is suddenly interrupted by a barrage of gunshots.

Eyewitness Niels Ivar Larsen, speaking to the Associated Press news agency, said: "I heard someone firing with an automatic weapon and someone shouting.

"Police returned fire and I hid behind the bar."

The French ambassador, Francois Zimeray, was also present during the attack.

Shortly after the shooting, a message appeared on his Twitter feed saying he was still alive.

The area around the venue is under lockdown, reports the BBC's Malcolm Brabant, and police have erected cordons as they search a nearby park.

Strict security

The debate was described on a personal website of Lars Vilks as a talk on whether any limits should be placed on artistic expression or freedom of speech.

A description of the event asked whether artists could "dare" to be blasphemous in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo terror attacks by Islamist gunmen in Paris last month.

In an indication of the threat faced by the cartoonist, a note was included on the website saying there was always "strict security" whenever he spoke in public.

An organiser of Saturday's event, Helle Merete Brix, told BBC World TV it was being guarded by armed police and security agents from the Danish intelligence service, as well as Mr Vilks' own bodyguards.

She said she clearly considered the incident an attack on Mr Vilk.

Lars Vilks stoked controversy in 2007 by drawing pictures of the Prophet Muhammad dressed as a dog.

In 2010 two brothers tried to burn down the cartoonist's house in southern Sweden and were imprisoned for attempted arson.

Satirists targeting Islam have been in the spotlight since the January attacks in France, when 17 people were killed in separate incidents over a three-day period.

French President Francois Hollande said Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve would visit the Danish capital as soon as possible.

A message from the president's official Twitter feed said Mr Hollande expressed his solidarity with Denmark's prime minister.

Cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad were published by a Danish newspaper in 2005, sparking deadly riots in some Muslim countries.

Lars Vilks: A controversial career

June 1946: born in Helsingborg, Sweden

2007: Stoked controversy when he drew a series of cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad as a dog which were published in a number of Swedish papers

Sept 2007: $100,000 bounty placed on his head by then leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq

March 2010: Seven Irish citizens arrested over separate plots to kill Vilks: US woman Colleen LaRose, aka Jihad Jane, also arrested and later jailed for 10 years for conspiracy to commit murder

May 2010: Assaulted by Muslim protesters during a lecture about free speech at Uppsala University, Sweden

Sept 2011: Three men arrested in Gothenburg, Sweden, for plotting to kill Vilks

March 2013: Placed on "most wanted" list By al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula

Feb 2015: Gunmen attack event on blasphemy, art and freedom of expression organised by Vilks at the Krudttoenden café in Copenhagen, Denmark