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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #750 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:20pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:05pm:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:10pm:

If only he had shut up when he received death threats.

is there a politician alive that has never received death threats????????????..

maybe you can name them...

the 17 killed because of Charlie hebdo were not politicians as far as I know..

again you probably know more than I.

So now it depends on the job they do too? Which jobs are still allowed to speak after death threats are made?

well lets put it this way...

if I was a pollie I would know at least 49% of the people didnt want me to run the country...otherwise I wouldnt be opposition leader.. Roll Eyes

so straight away I think to myself.. if I received a death threat... hey I have really upset someone...some one doesnt like what I am saying I WILL DO IF I GET ELECTED.

but then I would be told carry on as death threats go with the territory...... why do you think they are surrounded by body guards 24/7.. or havent you noticed?..

if I was a cartoonist and drew pics of someones god that drew their wrath at such a level they threatened me with death....and I have seen evidence of them carrying out their threats...

I would take notice I would rethink how important is that cartoon to the world...will it change mankind for the better... maybe not.. so I would not risk drawing said cartoon...even more so if it meant the death of my fellow workmates..

cringe worthy I know.. wimp... yep put my hand up...

the opposition leader would have had many guards I am sure...

but as far as I know those cartoonists didnt have guards...just a couple of cops at the front door..of the building.and they were first to get shot..

it all depends who is being threatened adn for what reasons....some can be avoided others well ????? I cant answer for everyone..I can only say what I would do if it was humanly possible....

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #751 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:53am

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

No-one cares cods, and your attempts to use the terrorist attacks to draw attention to your 'plight' are not exactly helping your cause.

says you...

but when will you admit you have blocked me and others from your precious board????....you are on here telling all and sundry you are winning this double standard.. REALLY?..

me thinks its your cause that is going down.sir!

You think freedom of speech is going down because this forum has rules?

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:05pm:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:10pm:

If only he had shut up when he received death threats.

is there a politician alive that has never received death threats????????????..

maybe you can name them...

the 17 killed because of Charlie hebdo were not politicians as far as I know..

again you probably know more than I.

So now it depends on the job they do too? Which jobs are still allowed to speak after death threats are made?

edit: I notice over here you take a different view to the one you have on the cartoonists.
cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:16pm:

pretty average for Russia no stab in the leg with an umbrella..

I am sure they have a deputy opposition leader..
business as usual

No big deal, hire more cartoonists? Business as usual?

Cods cannot think more than one very simple step ahead to what the consequences might be. She is the ultimate frog in a pot. You could turn her into a slave by taking away one right at a time, and she would defend you every step of the way, so long as you gesticulated wildly so she knew how deeply you felt about it.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #752 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:07am

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

No-one cares cods, and your attempts to use the terrorist attacks to draw attention to your 'plight' are not exactly helping your cause.

says you...

but when will you admit you have blocked me and others from your precious board????....you are on here telling all and sundry you are winning this double standard.. REALLY?..

me thinks its your cause that is going down.sir!

You think freedom of speech is going down because this forum has rules?

yes.... the rules do not apply to everyone... I cannot stop you from posting on my thread but you can bully me into not posting on your feedback if you dont like what I say.. bang your gone...

I am not complaining about the RULES...as far as I know I didnt even break one of the rules....

so you are abusing the FoS...

as I said I call it a double standard on your part...

If I break the speed limit I pay a fine...I broke a rule.

where did I break a rule in the forum rule book.. on feedback???...

you are the one that claimed he would fight to the death for his FOS... not I...

I am saying you have restricted my fos by banning me from one of the main boards on here...

one where I can contact the management should I have the need....I get no response to PM...

as far as I can tell I am blocked from admin completely.... and have no idea why???...

I question YOUR VERSION of FOS..

which seems to me to be the opposite of

fighting to the death for.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #753 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:19am

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

No-one cares cods, and your attempts to use the terrorist attacks to draw attention to your 'plight' are not exactly helping your cause.

says you...

but when will you admit you have blocked me and others from your precious board????....you are on here telling all and sundry you are winning this double standard.. REALLY?..

me thinks its your cause that is going down.sir!

You think freedom of speech is going down because this forum has rules?

yes.... the rules do not apply to everyone... I cannot stop you from posting on my thread but you can bully me into not posting on your feedback if you dont like what I say.. bang your gone...

I am not complaining about the RULES...as far as I know I didnt even break one of the rules....

so you are abusing the FoS...

as I said I call it a double standard on your part...

If I break the speed limit I pay a fine...I broke a rule.

where did I break a rule in the forum rule book.. on feedback???...

you are the one that claimed he would fight to the death for his FOS... not I...

I am saying you have restricted my fos by banning me from one of the main boards on here...

one where I can contact the management should I have the need....I get no response to PM...

as far as I can tell I am blocked from admin completely.... and have no idea why???...

I question YOUR VERSION of FOS..

which seems to me to be the opposite of

fighting to the death for.

many blessings beloved cods

you are grounded in ego and fear

this is ok and cool as it is forgiven

so let it be written , so let it be done

and so be it

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #754 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:22am

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:05pm:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:10pm:

If only he had shut up when he received death threats.

is there a politician alive that has never received death threats????????????..

maybe you can name them...

the 17 killed because of Charlie hebdo were not politicians as far as I know..

again you probably know more than I.

So now it depends on the job they do too? Which jobs are still allowed to speak after death threats are made?

well lets put it this way...

if I was a pollie I would know at least 49% of the people didnt want me to run the country...otherwise I wouldnt be opposition leader.. Roll Eyes

so straight away I think to myself.. if I received a death threat... hey I have really upset someone...some one doesnt like what I am saying I WILL DO IF I GET ELECTED.

but then I would be told carry on as death threats go with the territory...... why do you think they are surrounded by body guards 24/7.. or havent you noticed?..

if I was a cartoonist and drew pics of someones god that drew their wrath at such a level they threatened me with death....and I have seen evidence of them carrying out their threats...

I would take notice I would rethink how important is that cartoon to the world...will it change mankind for the better... maybe not.. so I would not risk drawing said cartoon...even more so if it meant the death of my fellow workmates..

cringe worthy I know.. wimp... yep put my hand up...

the opposition leader would have had many guards I am sure...

but as far as I know those cartoonists didnt have guards...just a couple of cops at the front door..of the building.and they were first to get shot..

it all depends who is being threatened adn for what reasons....some can be avoided others well ????? I cant answer for everyone..I can only say what I would do if it was humanly possible....

many blessings

this post is quite manic and grounded in fear based scenarios

like ' what if ' this and ' what if that and then this might happen ! '

beloved look at your life and count your blessings

rather

than searching for everything that is perceived wrong

arising from a countless number of ' what if ' scenarios

yet either way beloved

be at peace

namaste

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #755 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:32am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

manly possible....

many blessings

this post is quite manic and grounded in fear based scenarios

like ' what if ' this and ' what if that and then this might happen ! '

beloved look at your life and count your blessings

rather

than searching for everything that is perceived wrong

arising from a countless number of ' what if ' scenarios

yet either way beloved

be at peace

namaste

I do light I count my blessings every day..

I have NO FEAR I can assure you..

just seek the truth ... thats all..

amen to that.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #756 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:34am

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:32am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

manly possible....

many blessings

this post is quite manic and grounded in fear based scenarios

like ' what if ' this and ' what if that and then this might happen ! '

beloved look at your life and count your blessings

rather

than searching for everything that is perceived wrong

arising from a countless number of ' what if ' scenarios

yet either way beloved

be at peace

namaste

I do light I count my blessings every day..

I have NO FEAR I can assure you..

just seek the truth ... thats all..

amen to that.

many blessings beloved cods

you are a fine and honourable being

much love and light is within you

it is plain to see

namaste

- : ) =

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #757 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:54am

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:34am:

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:32am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:22am:

manly possible....

many blessings

this post is quite manic and grounded in fear based scenarios

like ' what if ' this and ' what if that and then this might happen ! '

beloved look at your life and count your blessings

rather

than searching for everything that is perceived wrong

arising from a countless number of ' what if ' scenarios

yet either way beloved

be at peace

namaste

I do light I count my blessings every day..

I have NO FEAR I can assure you..

just seek the truth ... thats all..

amen to that.

many blessings beloved cods

you are a fine and honourable being

much love and light is within you

it is plain to see

namaste

- : ) =

thats not what most say.. Grin

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #759 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 10:13am

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 6:05pm:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 5:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:10pm:

If only he had shut up when he received death threats.

is there a politician alive that has never received death threats????????????..

maybe you can name them...

the 17 killed because of Charlie hebdo were not politicians as far as I know..

again you probably know more than I.

So now it depends on the job they do too? Which jobs are still allowed to speak after death threats are made?

well lets put it this way...

if I was a pollie I would know at least 49% of the people didnt want me to run the country...otherwise I wouldnt be opposition leader.. Roll Eyes

so straight away I think to myself.. if I received a death threat... hey I have really upset someone...some one doesnt like what I am saying I WILL DO IF I GET ELECTED.

but then I would be told carry on as death threats go with the territory...... why do you think they are surrounded by body guards 24/7.. or havent you noticed?..

if I was a cartoonist and drew pics of someones god that drew their wrath at such a level they threatened me with death....and I have seen evidence of them carrying out their threats...

I would take notice I would rethink how important is that cartoon to the world...will it change mankind for the better... maybe not.. so I would not risk drawing said cartoon...even more so if it meant the death of my fellow workmates..

cringe worthy I know.. wimp... yep put my hand up...

the opposition leader would have had many guards I am sure...

but as far as I know those cartoonists didnt have guards...just a couple of cops at the front door..of the building.and they were first to get shot..

it all depends who is being threatened adn for what reasons....some can be avoided others well ????? I cant answer for everyone..I can only say what I would do if it was humanly possible....

Well Cods, the Ruski certainly didn't have bodyguards, he may still be kicking if he had, what does that do to your theory? As you say Charlie at least had a couple of coppers.

Really there is no difference, both had death threats, both kept going because they believed in what they were doing. That doesn't mean I have to agree with what they were doing but they were both speaking out in their own way. If no-one did that we would be living in a world dictatorship by now as all anyone would have to do is be willing to kill for their cause to make everyone shut up.

Should Lambie shut up now because of threats?

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Reply #761 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:11pm

cods wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:07am:

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:53am:

cods wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:36am:

freediver wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:26am:

No-one cares cods, and your attempts to use the terrorist attacks to draw attention to your 'plight' are not exactly helping your cause.

says you...

but when will you admit you have blocked me and others from your precious board????....you are on here telling all and sundry you are winning this double standard.. REALLY?..

me thinks its your cause that is going down.sir!

You think freedom of speech is going down because this forum has rules?

yes.... the rules do not apply to everyone... I cannot stop you from posting on my thread but you can bully me into not posting on your feedback if you dont like what I say.. bang your gone...

I am not complaining about the RULES...as far as I know I didnt even break one of the rules....

so you are abusing the FoS...

as I said I call it a double standard on your part...

If I break the speed limit I pay a fine...I broke a rule.

where did I break a rule in the forum rule book.. on feedback???...

you are the one that claimed he would fight to the death for his FOS... not I...

I am saying you have restricted my fos by banning me from one of the main boards on here...

one where I can contact the management should I have the need....I get no response to PM...

as far as I can tell I am blocked from admin completely.... and have no idea why???...

I question YOUR VERSION of FOS..

which seems to me to be the opposite of

fighting to the death for.

Cods it is not "my" version of freedom of speech. It is "the" version. There is no double standard on my part, only a complete inability on your part to comprehend the standard.

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #762 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:40pm

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Reminds me of ebay. Someone sold me a fake emerald. Advertised as 'genuine Colombian natural emerald, size such and such'. Free postage

I emailed the seller several times and he told me he'd bought it in Cairns as an engagement ring from a 'reputable dealer', receipt to come. Receipt didn't arrive by the time bidding started

There were photos on ebay which did show a natural emerald of the size advertised as far as I could tell

14 people bid for it. I won it. Soon as the auction ended the seller emailed to tell me postage (registered, signed-for) would be $17. I'm not stingy, but he'd said in big letters in the auction that it would be free postage. I emailed to remind him

Emerald arrived. Didn't look right at all. Took it to three separate jewellers of 'good reputation'. All told me it was simulated. One even showed me the exact ring in his showcase. Not natural at all

Emailed seller who told me I was lying. It 'was so' a genuine, natural emerald, he said, and had come from his grandmother's ' Californian estate'

Not happy. Emailed ebay and told the story

Automated email from ebay

Emailed back

Automated email from ebay

several times

Ebay Terms and Conditions at that time stipulated sellers must leave their Item Description photos online, on ebay, for three months

Ebay told me I would have to provide them with the sellers Item Description photos

but they were gone

removed

Seller had contravened eBay's rules

Emailed ebay and told them

Too bad, so sad, said ebay. No photos? What do you expect us to do about it?

Emailed ebay again

Automated emails in response

Emailed seller

Get stuffed, he said in largest possible font

several times

So I went online and found a place where people could send their complaints if they'd been ripped off by an online seller

Spent all weekened composing a massive explanatory email to them

sent it

never heard a word back, lol. I think they were connected to the CIA

So I wrote to someone who I believed was The Head of Ebay

no response

In the end, I gave the ring to my daughter. She doesn't like it much I suppose because she's never worn it

I stayed away from ebay for close to a year

I was so disillusioned. I'd been buying away under the delusion I was covered by Trust and Safety ebay. I thought they had a handle on security matters and would recognise my case - my rights - and uphold their own rules

Ebay didn't give a poo

I can laugh now at how indignant and upset I was at the time

Felt very betrayed

Then I found out it happens to almost everyone at some point

I'm forced to the realisation, especially lately, of how short Life really is. I know it must be, because I catch myself saying ' A while ago', and 'A few years ago'. Then realise I'm speaking of twenty years back

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Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH..
Reply #763 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:08pm

freediver wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:11pm:

Cods it is not "my" version of freedom of speech. It is "the" version. There is no double standard on my part, only a complete inability on your part to comprehend the standard.

can you explain who created the OZPOL RULE BOOK then?....

and how gave you the power to send someone into cyberspace at will....suffocating my fos..

sure I can whinge to you on other boards.. but if I want to complain about the system I cannot contact you..

you only come on here to spread lies about me....otherwise you are have no interest...

of course YOU have a double standard...every knows it..only you live in ... ignorance.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: FREEDOM OF SPEECH.. Reply #764 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:10pm PZ547 wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:40pm: I can laugh now at how indignant and upset I was at the time Felt very betrayed Then I found out it happens to almost everyone at some point isnt that really a matter of FREEDOM OF CHOICE and not SPEECH? no one FORCED you to buy the ring yet someone has FORCED myself off feedback
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