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Reply #31 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:57pm

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Abbott faces Bill Shorten, at this stage still an essentially colourless politician without charisma, identification with values or principles or capacity to articulate ideals or to stir the public passions. Abbott has tried to portray him as weak, spineless and disloyal, a creature of the Labor machine, and a creature of the union hierarchies. Voters may agree, but, it seems, would rather him than Abbott.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/prime-minister-tony-abbott-needs-an-issue-or-an-id...

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Reply #32 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 3:54pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 10:11am:

Shorton is no fighter, he's a fixer, a numbers-man. I seriously doubt Shorton will ever bring Labor into office. He struggles to present an argument, and he can't, as yet, articulate an alternative vision. Australia needs this vision. We're in a period of economic transition. Transition to where?

Shorten is in Opposition and we're nearly two years away from the next election. Plenty of time for Shorten to put forth his vision.

Abbott hasn't put forth his vision either and he's been PM for 16 months.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorton Reply #33 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 3:56pm cods wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 10:24am: Albos gone right off the radar.... So have a lot of politicians from all parties. Wonder why Truss is acting PM? Here's why - it's January and they're all on a break.
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Reply #34 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:02am

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten is clearly out of his depth. A cardboard box has more personality than Shorten.

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Reply #35 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:54am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:02am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten is clearly out of his depth. A cardboard box has more personality than Shorten.

It's not a personality contest.

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Reply #36 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:05am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:54am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:02am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten is clearly out of his depth. A cardboard box has more personality than Shorten.

It's not a personality contest.

Never said it was, but it would be preferable for political leaders to you know, have a pulse. That's one of the many areas in which Shorten fails miserably. He's even more excruciating to listen to than Gillard was.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74429 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorton Reply #37 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 9:50am Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:05am: but it would be preferable for political leaders to you know, have a pulse so you admit that the public currently prefers someone without a pulse to Abbott? Geez, how bad must Abbott be to rank that low
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Reply #38 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:26am

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 9:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:05am:

but it would be preferable for political leaders to you know, have a pulse

so you admit that the public currently prefers someone without a pulse to Abbott?

Geez, how bad must Abbott be to rank that low Grin

You enjoy being seen as stupid, don't you? It's the only logical explanation. Roll Eyes

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorton Reply #39 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:29am In the unlikely event that I would dedicate a thread to Bill Shorten, I'd get his name wrong too.
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Reply #40 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:30am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 9:50am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:05am:

but it would be preferable for political leaders to you know, have a pulse

so you admit that the public currently prefers someone without a pulse to Abbott?

Geez, how bad must Abbott be to rank that low Grin

You enjoy being seen as stupid, don't you? It's the only logical explanation. Roll Eyes

whats up? you don't like it when people highlight your stupidity Grin

i think your village is calling for you

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Reply #41 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:32am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:02am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten is clearly out of his depth. A cardboard box has more personality than Shorten.

I'd suggest that brains are more important. And it's quite sad that a cardboard box has more brains than Abbott. And perhaps Shorten. but we'll find that out once the current idiot is booted out of the PM hot seat.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95619 Gender:	Re: Bill Shorton Reply #42 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:37am bogarde73 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 10:29am: In the unlikely event that I would dedicate a thread to Bill Shorten, I'd get his name wrong too. Good point.
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Reply #43 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:42am

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten will be the second worst PM ever voted into office. Ironically he follows the worst.

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Reply #44 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 12:05pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 11:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:02am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 8:35am:

I saw Bill Shorton on a repeat of Kitchen Cabinet last night. It was the hardest interview I’ve seen Crabb do. Awkward, stilted, forced smiles, and mostly, nothing to say.

The most obvious question from the interview in why is Shorton there? He was parachuted into a safe Labor seat, was given a minor portfolio -disabilities - and did, actually, make something of it. The NDIS is a big, transformational Labor policy for people with disabilities and their carers.

But Shorton struggled to define what he truly stands for beyond naked ambition. He struggled to articulate any passions or much of a sense of himself at all.

The big question is how did he get there? He must have some political skills. Shorton is clearly a fixer, not a maddie. He came across as privaledged, spoilt and dull. I doubt he’ll ever want to see footage of that interview again.

How could he possibly be Prime Minister? I actually think Tony Abbott has more skill and depth.

Shorten is clearly out of his depth. A cardboard box has more personality than Shorten.

I'd suggest that brains are more important. And it's quite sad that a cardboard box has more brains than Abbott. And perhaps Shorten. but we'll find that out once the current idiot is booted out of the PM hot seat.

I don't know of any cardboard boxes that are Rhodes Scholars. As for Shorten, his disastrous interview on TV has destroyed his political ambitions of ever being PM. No one anywhere in the country, much less the world, would take him seriously after that!

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