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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137833 Gender:	Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE Reply #45 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 3:23pm Happy Lucky wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:45pm: On Monday, a leadership spill motion was defeated 61-39 in a Liberal party room meeting in Canberra. All the rabid lefties on here certainly got that wrong. No, that's simply not true.
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Reply #46 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:05pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Yadda, I know you seem to think everyone not as frothing at the mouth as you is some kind of undercover Muslim, but throwing pigs at the forum probably won't do anything.

There are so many genuine atrocities committed by islamic extremists that

I'm frankly amazed you resort to "bearing false witness" to try and score points.

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:43pm:

Perish the thought.

Stratos,

'I'm frankly amazed' at your lack of English Comprehension.

ENGLISH COMPREHENSION; FAIL

I will try once again;

A 2nd source.....

Quote:

........quoting from Jungle Patrol: A Story of the Philippine Constabulary, by Vic Hurley (1938), suggests that the tale may have a basis in fact. However, Hurley says the practice originated with a Col. Rogers, not Pershing himself:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=93193

As is ALSO suggested in my quote from the Snopes site.

see my post, this thread;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421621488/28#28

Stratos wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 2:39pm:

Oh, and maybe read your sources before posting them lest they tell the exact opposite of what you wanted to say.

No it didn't.

Again;

As is ALSO suggested in my quote from the Snopes site.

see my post, this thread;
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421621488/28#28

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Reply #47 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:19pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 1:46pm:

Umm you do realise Snopes is an urban legend site.

Even by the cut and paste you put in, they've stated that they have no evidence other than anecdotes (years after Pershing died) that he did it.

Outrage Bus,

Other sites suggest that the practice attributed to General Black Jack Pershing, may not have originated with General Black Jack Pershing.

But that the practice [of killing moslem combatants, and burying them with the body parts of pigs] 'had a basis in fact', though the practice may have originated with another US military figure who also served in the Philippines, Colonel Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry....

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........quoting from Jungle Patrol: A Story of the Philippine Constabulary, by Vic Hurley (1938), suggests that the tale may have a basis in fact. However, Hurley says the practice originated with a Col. Rogers, not Pershing himself:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=93193

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Reply #48 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:26pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:19pm:

.....the practice [of killing moslem combatants, and burying them with the body parts of pigs] 'had a basis in fact', though the practice may have originated with another US military figure who also served in the Philippines, Colonel Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry....

And again!!!!!

I would desperately like this practice to be applied to the remains of the Lindt Cafe atrocity killer, Haron Monis.

.

Lets restart this practice again,

and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE Reply #49 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm for what reason? Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?
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Reply #50 - Feb 9^th, 2015 at 8:59pm

There is no evidence to suggest it ever happened Yadda.

If there is please provide it.

Yadda wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:26pm:

Lets restart this practice again, and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

What exactly do you think this would accomplish? I mean, according to Islamic scripture in both the Koran and Hadith suicide results in damnation but that hasn't stopped nutcases from doing that, so I fail to see what this would accomplish.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #51 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:15am

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

for what reason?

Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?

Rhino,

Because Australians, including myself, want to have the occasion to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death.

Because in life, Haron Monis was person who resoundingly showed utter disrespect for the culture and the laws of my nation, Australia!

Because Haron Monis showed utter disrespect for Australia and Australians, the nation and the people who [mistakenly!] chose to give sanctuary, and a home to Haron Monis - a supposed refugee and 'asylum seeker'!

Because i want Australians, including myself, to be able to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death, .......because in life Haron Monis 'demonstrated himself to be a liar, a thief, a rapist, and a murderer [as well as being a moslem 'extremist' besides]'.

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Because Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises the close proximity of an animal such as a pig.

So yes, LETS DEMONSTRATE our utter disrespect - AS AUSTRALIANS - for the life of the criminal and murderer Haron Monis

Lets disinter the body of Haron Monis, and rebury him, in the embrace of the body of a dead pig.

I would desperately like this practice to be applied to the remains of the Lindt Cafe atrocity killer, Haron Monis.

So yes;

Lets restart this practice again,

and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

And maybe the French will decide to do the same to the Charlie Hebdo killers, too ?

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Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises our Australian 'secular' laws, because our Australian 'secular' laws do not protect moslems from prosecution, when a moslem engages in criminal behaviour.

Haron Monis

was a man who was angry

that his criminal behaviour in Australia, was not protected by Sharia law.

Haron Monis

was a man who was angry

that Sharia law had no force in Australia, to protect him.

Haron Monis was the product of a culture whose laws, make it lawful for a moslem to commit criminal acts [by our law] against persons who do not believe as moslems believe.

e.g.
ISLAM makes it lawful, for a moslem to murder an 'infidel', for the glory of Allah and his cause.

Such a criminal act [by our law] is not unlawful in ISLAMIC law.

In fact such killings are praised by ISLAM, and ISLAMIC law.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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HooYAY its FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 980 Gender:	Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE Reply #52 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:15am The bloke was a coward and will go down as a coward. It's a pity no one had the guts to slam a bullet into his ugly smacking head sooner.
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Re: Haron Monis - BEFORE THE MARTIN PLACE OUTRAGE
Reply #53 - Feb 10^th, 2015 at 11:30am

Yadda wrote on Feb 10^th, 2015 at 10:15am:

rhino wrote on Feb 9^th, 2015 at 6:57pm:

for what reason?

Will the dead pig revive the dead hostages?

Rhino,

Because Australians, including myself, want to have the occasion to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death.

Because in life, Haron Monis was person who resoundingly showed utter disrespect for the culture and the laws of my nation, Australia!

Because Haron Monis showed utter disrespect for Australia and Australians, the nation and the people who [mistakenly!] chose to give sanctuary, and a home to Haron Monis - a supposed refugee and 'asylum seeker'!

Because i want Australians, including myself, to be able to demonstrate our deep disrespect for Haron Monis in death, .......because in life Haron Monis 'demonstrated himself to be a liar, a thief, a rapist, and a murderer [as well as being a moslem 'extremist' besides]'.

image.....
http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2014/12/16/1227157/400913-624365d8-8461-11e...

Because Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises the close proximity of an animal such as a pig.

So yes, LETS DEMONSTRATE our utter disrespect - AS AUSTRALIANS - for the life of the criminal and murderer Haron Monis

Lets disinter the body of Haron Monis, and rebury him, in the embrace of the body of a dead pig.

I would desperately like this practice to be applied to the remains of the Lindt Cafe atrocity killer, Haron Monis.

So yes;

Lets restart this practice again,

and lets start by applying this 'offensive' practice to the remains of the Lindt Cafe killer, Haron Monis !!!!

And maybe the French will decide to do the same to the Charlie Hebdo killers, too ?

+++

Haron Monis was the product of a culture which despises our Australian 'secular' laws, because our Australian 'secular' laws do not protect moslems from prosecution, when a moslem engages in criminal behaviour.

Haron Monis

was a man who was angry

that his criminal behaviour in Australia, was not protected by Sharia law.

Haron Monis

was a man who was angry

that Sharia law had no force in Australia, to protect him.

Haron Monis was the product of a culture whose laws, make it lawful for a moslem to commit criminal acts [by our law] against persons who do not believe as moslems believe.

e.g.
ISLAM makes it lawful, for a moslem to murder an 'infidel', for the glory of Allah and his cause.

Such a criminal act [by our law] is not unlawful in ISLAMIC law.

In fact such killings are praised by ISLAM, and ISLAMIC law.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE
"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."
"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Actually if you read the lead up and reaction, the muslim community knew this guy was batshit crazy.

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