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Re: Apparently we are living to 150
Reply #15 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 5:56pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

They have to pay because a child born today will live to 150.

What exactly do they have to pay for?

Shock, horror.....not themselves? Shocked

Surely not.... Grin

We already do via the medicare levy & our progressive taxation system.

Don't want to pay stay poor.

Want to be rich & safe in an comfortable society, pay up.

Yes, as smith pointed out. If you don't wish to pay, stay poor.

The poor don't pay the medicare levy

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Re: Apparently we are living to 150
Reply #16 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 6:12pm

There is no indication that a human can live longer now than what they could a 1000 years ago. The maximum age a person can live for is not the same as the average life expectancy. Yes more people are living longer now than in the past, but there are plenty of people in history who lived to over 100 while the majority of people were dropping in their 60's or even younger. Modern lifestyles and medicine have simply increased average age by saving people from injuries and illness that would have resulted in death in the past. But that doesn't mean that it has actually slowed down aging. More people are living closer the the maximum age limit, but not nessacerly increasing the actual age limit.

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Re: Apparently we are living to 150
Reply #17 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 6:23pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

In todays latest justification for wanting the poor to just die quietly

They have to pay because a child born today will live to 150.

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Treasurer Joe Hockey has raised the prospect of people living until 150 to explain why Australians should accept cuts to government benefits and pay a greater share of their health costs.

The Treasurer said his five-year old son had broken his leg over the Christmas break. Although his son attended multiple consultations and X-rays, Mr Hockey only had to contribute $40 to pay for a waterproof cast.

"That is wrong," Mr Hockey said, noting he is a high income earner who could afford to contribute more.

The government still plans to introduce a $5 optional co-payment for GP visits.

"There's great news on the horizon for Australia," Mr Hockey said. "The fact we are living longer is great news. It's kind of remarkable that somewhere in the world today, it's highly probable that a child is being born that is going to live to 150. That's a long time.

"The question is how we live with dignity and ensure we have a good quality of life the whole way through. This is the conversation we are going to have with Australia over the next few months."

The government will release the latest Intergenerational Report early this year, which is expected to show that the ageing population will make it difficult for the government to pay for the services Australians have come to expect.

Some researchers have said that drugs that can slow the ageing process are likely to become available within 10 years, raising the prospect of people eventually living to 150 or more.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/joe-hockey-raises-prosp...

Grab your tin foil folks

I thought you Labor/Lefties already had??

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Re: Apparently we are living to 150
Reply #18 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:20pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 6:23pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

In todays latest justification for wanting the poor to just die quietly

They have to pay because a child born today will live to 150.

Quote:

Treasurer Joe Hockey has raised the prospect of people living until 150 to explain why Australians should accept cuts to government benefits and pay a greater share of their health costs.

The Treasurer said his five-year old son had broken his leg over the Christmas break. Although his son attended multiple consultations and X-rays, Mr Hockey only had to contribute $40 to pay for a waterproof cast.

"That is wrong," Mr Hockey said, noting he is a high income earner who could afford to contribute more.

The government still plans to introduce a $5 optional co-payment for GP visits.

"There's great news on the horizon for Australia," Mr Hockey said. "The fact we are living longer is great news. It's kind of remarkable that somewhere in the world today, it's highly probable that a child is being born that is going to live to 150. That's a long time.

"The question is how we live with dignity and ensure we have a good quality of life the whole way through. This is the conversation we are going to have with Australia over the next few months."

The government will release the latest Intergenerational Report early this year, which is expected to show that the ageing population will make it difficult for the government to pay for the services Australians have come to expect.

Some researchers have said that drugs that can slow the ageing process are likely to become available within 10 years, raising the prospect of people eventually living to 150 or more.

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/joe-hockey-raises-prosp...

Grab your tin foil folks

I thought you Labor/Lefties already had??

The climate change deniers took them all.

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Re: Apparently we are living to 150
Reply #19 - Jan 19^th, 2015 at 9:29pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 19^th, 2015 at 1:58pm:

They have to pay because a child born today will live to 150.

What exactly do they have to pay for?

Shock, horror.....not themselves? Shocked

Surely not.... Grin

We already do via the medicare levy & our progressive taxation system.

Don't want to pay stay poor.

Want to be rich & safe in an comfortable society, pay up.

The poor don't pay the medicare levy

I say ditch the levy and go with the Grappler United Party of Shirtfronted Leaners and Slackers (that's a mouthful) and have a sliding scale related directly to income.... REAL income pre perks.....

That'll fix 'em...

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