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knives are out for Abbott
Jan 20^th, 2015 at 3:47am

Seems this is no longer speculation - the libs really are moving against Abbott. The liberal party room seems to be as chaotic as the labor caucus was under Rudd - and it seems more and more likely it will end the same way.

How hilarious - to think that Abbott basically built his reputation in opposition as *NOT* being Rudd - not being the chaotic megalomaniac that drove his party to mutiny. And now here we are... again.

Thank heavens the grown ups are in charge indeed....

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Signs of mutiny on the Good Ship Abbott
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By Paula Matthewson
Updated yesterday at 9:59amMon 19 Jan 2015, 9:59am

We've known for some time that the Good Ship Abbott was in trouble, and with MPs now seemingly jostling for position could it be a case of man overboard? Paula Matthewson writes.

That sound you hear is the whisper of Liberal Party MPs carefully shuffling around a Prime Minister who's taken on water and is listing dangerously.

They're hoping to avoid being dragged down with him into the dark waters of electoral opprobrium and are eyeing those who hope to replace the PM as potential lifeboats.

We've known for some time that the Good Ship Abbott was in trouble, partly because it was constructed using shonky policies and shattered expectations, but also because it was steered with the reckless abandon that comes from political hubris mixed with a misguided sense of entitlement.

The summer break provided an opportunity to put the ship in dry dock, replace the defective policies and adjust the political navigation system. At least that was the point of Tony Abbott's "reset" press conference and the ministry reshuffle conducted late last year.

However, it would appear that no such reset actually took place. Instead Abbott pressed on, continuing to make poor political decisions like the no-media visit to Iraq while bushfires raged in three Australian states, and even worse policy decisions like the unannounced $20 cut to the Medicare rebate.

Now a leak about the Medicare cut from the Cabinet's expenditure review committee over the weekend suggests hope is fading fast for HMAS Abbott to be successfully refloated, and that the decks are being cleared for a regime change.

Ministers are already jostling to be in the new leadership line-up, and the weekend's leak flags that Joe Hockey, the one-time heir-apparent but now only the beleaguered Treasurer, wants to be back in contention. It would also appear Hockey is unafraid to tarnish the PM's reputation while seeking to rehabilitate his own.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/matthewson-signs-of-mutiny-on-the-good-shi...

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Reply #1 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 3:51am

What is amazing is how very many years this guy has survived in politics... took about five minutes in the hot seat for him and Hockshop Joe to hit the skids....

Amazing.. simply amazing..... this guy is our 'prime minister'....... the Assyrian Wolf In the Fold even has an Assistant Treasurer to help him write his speeches or whatever Treasurers do, since others do the actual work and he merely functions as mouthpiece.. total waste of time to have an 'assistant treasurer' at huge cost.... or even a treasurer.. any idiot could lay out the figures.. though I suppose the art is in the massaging of figures....

Takes an expert to do that.....

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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #2 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 4:45am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 3:51am:

What is amazing is how very many years this guy has survived in politics... took about five minutes in the hot seat for him and Hockshop Joe to hit the skids....

Amazing.. simply amazing..... this guy is our 'prime minister'....... the Assyrian Wolf In the Fold even has an Assistant Treasurer to help him write his speeches or whatever Treasurers do, since others do the actual work and he merely functions as mouthpiece.. total waste of time to have an 'assistant treasurer' at huge cost.... or even a treasurer.. any idiot could lay out the figures.. though I suppose the art is in the massaging of figures....

Takes an expert to do that.....

Could not agree more grap. Howard must have been amazing to keep their incompetence hidden. The knives might be out for abbott but who will get the nod?

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Reply #4 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:54am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

Abbott and Hockey need to be replaced by the 2 star performers

Bishop for pm
Morrison for deputy.

The sooner the better

I think the other way around. Bishop has, to-date, been virtually silent on domestic issues. Her views, through no fault of her own, on such issues aren't all that well known, which is understandable given her job relates to global issues. Morrison has shown himself to be a tough but fair Minister who can cut through the crap to get the job done. If there was a change at the top, I'd also replace Hockey with Turnbull, given his extensive experience in the financial sector.

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Scott Morrison DID wipe the floor with Bull Shitten!!!

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macman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2435 australia Gender:	Re: knives are out for Abbott Reply #5 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:04am Do not think the 'boys club' will accept bishop as leader. Robb for the top job for mine and would like to see turncoat as treasurer but do not think it will happen. Whatever changes they make can only be an improvement.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: knives are out for Abbott Reply #6 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 6:50am Will changing the deck chairs on the Titanic make any difference?.
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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #7 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:04am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

Abbott and Hockey need to be replaced by the 2 star performers

Bishop for pm
Morrison for deputy.

The sooner the better

The never, the better.

These two would be the worst possible choices. Apart from the fools we currently have, of course.

The Right really do hate everything Australia is renowned and envied for, don't you?

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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #8 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

Abbott and Hockey need to be replaced by the 2 star performers

Bishop for pm
Morrison for deputy.

The sooner the better

I think the other way around. Bishop has, to-date, been virtually silent on domestic issues. Her views, through no fault of her own, on such issues aren't all that well known, which is understandable given her job relates to global issues. Morrison has shown himself to be a tough but fair Minister who can cut through the crap to get the job done. If there was a change at the top, I'd also replace Hockey with Turnbull, given his extensive experience in the financial sector.

No.

What he's shown himself to be is an evil, vicious and megalomaniacal scumbag.

He should be in prison for human-rights abuses, not sitting in Parliament.

And all those who voted for him should have their right to vote revoked.

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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #9 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:14am

Kat wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

Abbott and Hockey need to be replaced by the 2 star performers

Bishop for pm
Morrison for deputy.

The sooner the better

I think the other way around. Bishop has, to-date, been virtually silent on domestic issues. Her views, through no fault of her own, on such issues aren't all that well known, which is understandable given her job relates to global issues. Morrison has shown himself to be a tough but fair Minister who can cut through the crap to get the job done. If there was a change at the top, I'd also replace Hockey with Turnbull, given his extensive experience in the financial sector.

No.

What he's shown himself to be is an evil, vicious and megalomaniacal scumbag.

He should be in prison for human-rights abuses, not sitting in Parliament.

And all those who voted for him should have their right to vote revoked.

They have a bed, a roof over their heads, at least three meals a day, running water, toilets, internet access, phone access, recreational activities, medical care and more. It's not Club Med, but it's hardly a concentration camp either. It's definitely more than the poor souls languishing in refugee camps without the above and who live in fear of attacks by rebel forces daily. Lets not forget that these people were warned not to come or they'd end up in a detention centre. That they came anyway shows a total disregard by them with regard to our wishes and laws. Besides, Morrison is only cleaning up the mess left behind after six years of Labor incompetence and taxpayers are still footing a bill in the billions, whereas under Howard the bill was less than $100m a year. In short, if anyone should have their right to vote revoked, it's you, Kat!

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Scott Morrison DID wipe the floor with Bull Shitten!!!

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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:18am

Kat wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 5:15am:

Abbott and Hockey need to be replaced by the 2 star performers

Bishop for pm
Morrison for deputy.

The sooner the better

I think the other way around. Bishop has, to-date, been virtually silent on domestic issues. Her views, through no fault of her own, on such issues aren't all that well known, which is understandable given her job relates to global issues. Morrison has shown himself to be a tough but fair Minister who can cut through the crap to get the job done. If there was a change at the top, I'd also replace Hockey with Turnbull, given his extensive experience in the financial sector.

No.

What he's shown himself to be is an evil, vicious and megalomaniacal scumbag.
He should be in prison for human-rights abuses, not sitting in Parliament.

And all those who voted for him should have their right to vote revoked.

Now now Kat, we are talking about perceptions in the electorate. whilst its doubtful you will vote for Scott, your opinion is a slight exaggeration of the mood in the electorate Wink

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Re: knives are out for Abbott
Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:24am

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Will changing the deck chairs on the Titanic make any difference?. Sad

Oh yes, there wasn't much of a difference between Rudd and Gillard. both seemed tarnished.

I don't think Morrison and Bishop or as others have said Turnbull are tarnished at all. I think its a total fresh start.

It would be best if it could be bloodless though.
really, tony should do a charity ride for kids with cancer and Peta should T Bone him and put him in hospital with some minor injuries. then he says he has some subtle brain damage ( well , he wont even need to fake that, he already shows signs).
He goes down as a martyr , injured in the line of duty, and he hands over the crown to Julie , who reluctantly accepts it , through sobs and tears, by his hospital bed, with his 2 beautiful daughters sitting on the bed and his wife conveniently photo-shopped out of frame.

that's how i'd do it and you'd win the next election easliy

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Reply #12 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:24am

I don't understand why they make it so difficult. All tony needs to do is come out and say, "Look let's face it, you all agree, I'm fairly terrible at this job. So I'm stepping down."

we will agree, and the Libs will get a poll boost and most likely win the next election.

UNless of course they put in that scum Morriscum. There is no secrecy or orange life boats when one is PM. The satanic scum would be screwed.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: knives are out for Abbott Reply #13 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:44am Rudd and Gillard underestimated Abbott. I suggest you lot are doing the same. First years for new govts are always rocky. Howard had a similar experience and look what happened. I would suggest this is all very premature. It is Labor that knifes PMs, not Libs. In fact, I don't recall one ever being knifed.
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Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:53am

longweekend58 wrote on Jan 20^th, 2015 at 7:44am:

Rudd and Gillard underestimated Abbott. I suggest you lot are doing the same. First years for new govts are always rocky. Howard had a similar experience and look what happened.

I would suggest this is all very premature. It is Labor that knifes PMs, not Libs. In fact, I don't recall one ever being knifed.

Longy this is not some imaginary conspiracy dreamt up by labor and the left wing media - we're talking about liberals themselves dissenting here - and leaking their dissent to reporters.

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