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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: rules for banning Reply #105 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 12:36pm Phemanderac wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 11:46am: If you justify, excuse or dismiss your own verbal abuse, then others will respond in kind. If others responded in kind, they would be banned. You can't complain to a global moderator about another one or even to FD for that matter because he needs people to moderate Ozpolitic.
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Reply #106 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:04pm

Whatever Andrei—you haven’t said why you ban people who insult another GMod when the GMod insulted does not? You won’t answer this—Longy not only was abusive the whole day he had to drag my family into his abuse despite being warned and banned for that earlier by you. Seems biased to me.

Just putting that up for discussion since we are having a discussion on banning, rules and accountability.

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The Mole Gold Member Offline http://www.ozpolitic .co/album/forum-atta chments/y Posts: 1499 Gender:	Re: rules for banning Reply #107 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:10pm See we live in a lawless community- ^^^^ all rules to be applied fairly I say-- I just come off a one day ban- I knew why and I knew I deserved it -so get a life get a job- get some sex--- SOMETHING! As in Tombstone- I suggest we all get behind Wyatt Earp and his band of immortals--eerrmm I want to be Doc Holliday.?
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Reply #108 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:15pm

mantra wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

It is up to the individual moderator as to how they choose to interpret the rules. As long as the power doesn't go to their head or they become abusive - then it's tolerable.

I've noticed a few times lately where Andrei has started threatening people with a holiday, even when NONE of the rules are being broken .. he just doesn't like the topic or the conversation.

I used to like and defend Andrei's modding, not anymore.

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Reply #109 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:23pm

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I've noticed a few times lately where Andrei has started threatening people with a holiday, even when NONE of the rules are being broken .. he just doesn't like the topic or the conversation[quote.

I used to like and defend Andrei's modding, not anymore.

Really John? I don't think we can know what they are thinking do you? As the mother of kids who both drive me insane at times- I imagine modding some pp here would be a very similiar feeling- mods are human, are they not. I get the feeling it wouldnt matter who was mod you would always find something wrong. I have been suspended a couple of times for what I don't even know- maybe some "snitch" dobbed on me but it won't effect my life-- its just no big deal seriously. get behind your mods and treat them as pp not as your enemy.

I was banned from Monks for some silly reason- I was out for quite a few weeks...but we got over it.

I think if you haven't been banned at least once, maybe you cant be trusted. Wink

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The Mole Gold Member Offline http://www.ozpolitic .co/album/forum-atta chments/y Posts: 1499 Gender:	Re: rules for banning Reply #110 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:41pm I think I was supposed to say something like "GRRRRRR crappy freaking mods, why are they such Nazi's GGGRRRR" Hope some of you feel better now.?
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Reply #111 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:42pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 10:42am:

Phem, moderators are accountable for bannings.

To whom? It is certainly not the Members....and I would have thought they (the Members) were the only people who the Mods should be accountable to.

[I have a few suggestions and comments following my recent ban.....but I am waiting for 'feedback' in another part of this Forum.]

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Reply #112 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:20pm

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He talked to us on a leadership - but something else RESPONSIBILITY.

That's nice.

I wonder, did he also mention consistency? Or perhaps clarity? Or even diligence? Tell me, what did he have to say about TRANSPARENCY? Anything...

To be frank, I don't disagree with you there regarding people taking responsibility for their own actions, however, in terms of "rules for banning" the point is fairly obvious.

The forum guidelines are basically not applied with due dilligence or consistency.

That is NOT the RESPONSIBILITY of the posters I might add, respectfully.

In your (and AA's favour) this is not about how either of you do the job of modding to be honest, it is more to do with the sloppy framework you have to work with.

The bottom line is, as the current frame work is set up quite a wide range of posters (no doubt myself included), including mods and the site owner, would be banned at some point or another - except for a distinct lack of diligence, consistency and transparency. I guess the only positive in this is that it is accidentally a partial win for free speech, well at least the free speech of a few...

Nice level of responsibility there.

you know the old saying phem.. that applies to everyone but myself.... Roll Eyes

hi everybody... well anyone that may have missed me.. I have had 24 hour ban....a FIRST FOR CODS...

courtesy of andrei...now I know what everyone complains about.....not the banning as such...but the fact their is no time given...first up...then basically I was told sentence is over dont do it again..well not in those words..

if I was given a clue.....sort of a responsible clue... I would maybe be able to avoid... what got me suspended.... aussie did warm me idiot is not a word to use on relationships...

now I am stumbling around in the dark...maybe that isnt what the general was talking about though..... Roll Eyes

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Reply #113 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:22pm

The Mole wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

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I've noticed a few times lately where Andrei has started threatening people with a holiday, even when NONE of the rules are being broken .. he just doesn't like the topic or the conversation[quote.

I used to like and defend Andrei's modding, not anymore.

Really John? I don't think we can know what they are thinking do you? As the mother of kids who both drive me insane at times- I imagine modding some pp here would be a very similiar feeling- mods are human, are they not. I get the feeling it wouldnt matter who was mod you would always find something wrong. I have been suspended a couple of times for what I don't even know- maybe some "snitch" dobbed on me but it won't effect my life-- its just no big deal seriously. get behind your mods and treat them as pp not as your enemy.

I was banned from Monks for some silly reason- I was out for quite a few weeks...but we got over it.

I think if you haven't been banned at least once, maybe you cant be trusted. Wink

I'm very trustworthy then .. it seems like I get banned at least once a month Grin

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The Mole Gold Member Offline http://www.ozpolitic .co/album/forum-atta chments/y Posts: 1499 Gender:	Re: rules for banning Reply #114 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:24pm Yep me too...I think this is about 6-7 for me.
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Reply #115 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:25pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He talked to us on a leadership - but something else RESPONSIBILITY.

That's nice.

I wonder, did he also mention consistency? Or perhaps clarity? Or even diligence? Tell me, what did he have to say about TRANSPARENCY? Anything...

To be frank, I don't disagree with you there regarding people taking responsibility for their own actions, however, in terms of "rules for banning" the point is fairly obvious.

The forum guidelines are basically not applied with due dilligence or consistency.

That is NOT the RESPONSIBILITY of the posters I might add, respectfully.

In your (and AA's favour) this is not about how either of you do the job of modding to be honest, it is more to do with the sloppy framework you have to work with.

The bottom line is, as the current frame work is set up quite a wide range of posters (no doubt myself included), including mods and the site owner, would be banned at some point or another - except for a distinct lack of diligence, consistency and transparency. I guess the only positive in this is that it is accidentally a partial win for free speech, well at least the free speech of a few...

Nice level of responsibility there.

you know the old saying phem.. that applies to everyone but myself.... Roll Eyes

hi everybody... well anyone that may have missed me.. I have had 24 hour ban....a FIRST FOR CODS...

courtesy of andrei...now I know what everyone complains about.....not the banning as such...but the fact their is no time given...first up...then basically I was told sentence is over dont do it again..well not in those words..

if I was given a clue.....sort of a responsible clue... I would maybe be able to avoid... what got me suspended.... aussie did warm me idiot is not a word to use on relationships...

now I am stumbling around in the dark...maybe that isnt what the general was talking about though..... Roll Eyes

At least you received some information about your ban. I received nothing at all. I read the Rules about this, and I have complied with them. I am now waiting for a response in another part of the Forum.

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Re: rules for banning
Reply #116 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:26pm

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He talked to us on a leadership - but something else RESPONSIBILITY.

That's nice.

I wonder, did he also mention consistency? Or perhaps clarity? Or even diligence? Tell me, what did he have to say about TRANSPARENCY? Anything...

To be frank, I don't disagree with you there regarding people taking responsibility for their own actions, however, in terms of "rules for banning" the point is fairly obvious.

The forum guidelines are basically not applied with due dilligence or consistency.

That is NOT the RESPONSIBILITY of the posters I might add, respectfully.

In your (and AA's favour) this is not about how either of you do the job of modding to be honest, it is more to do with the sloppy framework you have to work with.

The bottom line is, as the current frame work is set up quite a wide range of posters (no doubt myself included), including mods and the site owner, would be banned at some point or another - except for a distinct lack of diligence, consistency and transparency. I guess the only positive in this is that it is accidentally a partial win for free speech, well at least the free speech of a few...

Nice level of responsibility there.

you know the old saying phem.. that applies to everyone but myself.... Roll Eyes

hi everybody... well anyone that may have missed me.. I have had 24 hour ban....a FIRST FOR CODS...

courtesy of andrei...now I know what everyone complains about.....not the banning as such...but the fact their is no time given...first up...then basically I was told sentence is over dont do it again..well not in those words..

if I was given a clue.....sort of a responsible clue... I would maybe be able to avoid... what got me suspended.... aussie did warm me idiot is not a word to use on relationships...

now I am stumbling around in the dark...maybe that isnt what the general was talking about though..... Roll Eyes

I am surpised you were banned Cods, but I knew you must have been- I did miss you even though I was banned too~ welcome back and try not to think too hard about anything regards rules. Maybe FD has to step in and explain a few things to all of us~ Undecided

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Reply #117 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:25pm:

cods wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:20pm:

Phemanderac wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:32am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 9:02am:

He talked to us on a leadership - but something else RESPONSIBILITY.

That's nice.

I wonder, did he also mention consistency? Or perhaps clarity? Or even diligence? Tell me, what did he have to say about TRANSPARENCY? Anything...

To be frank, I don't disagree with you there regarding people taking responsibility for their own actions, however, in terms of "rules for banning" the point is fairly obvious.

The forum guidelines are basically not applied with due dilligence or consistency.

That is NOT the RESPONSIBILITY of the posters I might add, respectfully.

In your (and AA's favour) this is not about how either of you do the job of modding to be honest, it is more to do with the sloppy framework you have to work with.

The bottom line is, as the current frame work is set up quite a wide range of posters (no doubt myself included), including mods and the site owner, would be banned at some point or another - except for a distinct lack of diligence, consistency and transparency. I guess the only positive in this is that it is accidentally a partial win for free speech, well at least the free speech of a few...

Nice level of responsibility there.

you know the old saying phem.. that applies to everyone but myself.... Roll Eyes

hi everybody... well anyone that may have missed me.. I have had 24 hour ban....a FIRST FOR CODS...

courtesy of andrei...now I know what everyone complains about.....not the banning as such...but the fact their is no time given...first up...then basically I was told sentence is over dont do it again..well not in those words..

if I was given a clue.....sort of a responsible clue... I would maybe be able to avoid... what got me suspended.... aussie did warm me idiot is not a word to use on relationships...

now I am stumbling around in the dark...maybe that isnt what the general was talking about though..... Roll Eyes

At least you received some information about your ban. I received nothing at all. I read the Rules about this, and I have complied with them. I am now waiting for a response in another part of the Forum.

I was told why. I think that is a first.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: rules for banning Reply #118 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:34pm The Mole wrote on Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:24pm: Yep me too...I think this is about 6-7 for me. so much for FREEDOM OF SPEECH...hilarious.. was it by andrei as well...oh gawd thats probably a no no as well.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38860 Gender:	Re: rules for banning Reply #119 - Jan 24^th, 2015 at 2:34pm A.G......who did you get that advice/information from?
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