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Reply #30 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:11pm
 
I reckon Phemanderac is quite right.  If there is to be an Australia Day it ought be the 1st January.
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Reply #31 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:15pm
 
Phem is just a spineless whinger; imagine being stuck in the trenches with him.
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Reply #32 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:15pm
 

red baron wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 3:21pm:
The black bastards  burning the Australian flag would be screaming their tits off if it were whites burning the Aboriginal flag.

I would gladly give them  the wrong end of a baseball bat if I came across  them or anyone else doing that to our national flag.


I reckon those Abos are lucky to be allowed to burn the national flag. There's lots of other nations where such an action would see their arses in jail - or worse. Such freedom has been hard earned, by all Australians.

They should also thank their lucky stars that it was the British that established a colony in the first place. Their history could have been significantly different if the French or the Dutch had colonised. La Perouse was only days behind Cook.

Early immigration and its assimilation into this harshest of environments is what has shaped the Australian psyche, one that is now recognised in most parts of the world. The Australia of the 20th century had earned its laurels and its worldwide recognition.

Anyone that is critical of the old British Empire doesn't know their history and is ignorant of the treatment of its own people. Where would India be today without the early influence of the Raj? Where would Australia be now if the convict hulks in the Thames had not become overloaded because of war with what is now America (who has its own history with slaves and treatment of its indigenous people)? The French were involved in that one, too.

While I admit that some of the early treatment of our Aboriginal people was not up to today's standards, and even today their treatment is somewhat substandard, it could have been a whole lot worse.

There's plenty of other disadvantaged in today's world, including Australians (of whom the Aboriginal people are part of). Of course, sometimes these people are their own worst enemy.

To be critical of tomorrow's celebration is an acknowledgement of one's own ignorance.

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Reply #33 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:19pm
 
Happy Lucky wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:15pm:
Phem is just a spineless whinger; imagine being stuck in the trenches with him.


Ever dug a trench, Lucky? One that you had to hide in?

Ever fired a shot in anger or duty?

If you haven't -  Cheesy


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Reply #34 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:24pm
 
Have you, Lionel?
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Reply #35 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:33pm
 
Go Australia on it's day 26th January 2015! Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Reply #36 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:38pm
 
red baron wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 3:21pm:
The black bastards  burning the Australian flag would be screaming their tits off if it were whites burning the Aboriginal flag.

I would gladly give them  the wrong end of a baseball bat if I came across  them or anyone else doing that to our national flag.



You criticise the "black bastards", for screaming their tits off, and in the very next breath you are promoting senseless violence if someone was to burn the Australian flag.

Not only are you a complete hypocrite, you're also a very troubled individual.

A beating with a baseball bat, for burning one's own property?  You should seek help, red.

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Reply #37 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:40pm
 

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Reply #38 - Jan 25th, 2015 at 11:27pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jan 25th, 2015 at 4:15pm:
They should also thank their lucky stars that it was the British that established a colony in the first place. Their history could have been significantly different if the French or the Dutch had colonised. La Perouse was only days behind Cook.


Phillip actually, though it is an easy error to make.

La Perouse arrived on Jan 26, 1788 - about a week after Phillip anchored. Also, La Perouse was not set here to settle or claim that place. He was on a scientific expedition.

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On the 26th of January you are all invited to celebrate little white penal day...

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Reply #39 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 7:53am
 
I hope one and all have a wonderful day celebrating our white penal settlement.

Reflect for a time the privations endured by Convict and Establishment alike. Consider the drive, enthusiasm, moral fibre and dedication of men like Arthur Phillip.

Embrace and enjoy the beauty of this wide and ever changing land (it's not just brown you know) and revel in the climate that is so encouraging for outdoor activity, fun and sharing.

Reconnect once more with the irreverence that we, the eventual decedents of these apparent criminals and their (more often than not) criminal guardians, developed or grew into as a distinct part of our national Character (you know, after Australia became a nation in 1901).

To really revel in the "Little White Penal day" celebration is to be truly Australian with a solid grasp on our actual history and our demonstrated tendency to self deprecating humour.

Let's be honest here, if we take ourselves too seriously we have immediately become un-Australian.

So embrace and enjoy. Oh, and if you really need to do the barbie, then bloodywell enjoy that too.

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Reply #40 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 8:14am
 
I do not and will not buy the BS about invasion and genocide.

Neither are true, nor were they ever.

Both are a result of the politically-correct attempting to re-write history.

Spruiking that sort of crap will get NO sympathy from me.
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Reply #41 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 8:21am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 8:14am:
I do not and will not buy the BS about invasion and genocide.

Neither are true, nor were they ever.

Both are a result of the politically-correct attempting to re-write history.

Spruiking that sort of crap will get NO sympathy from me.


Whilst "Invasion and Genocide" were not the driving forces behind setting up the Penal Settlement (establishing the Penal Colony was the driving motivator) it is quite easy to see;

a) How indigenous people's would frame the arrival of white colonists as an invasion - rightly or wrongly. In a sense, that perception needs to be addressed thoughtfully for it to be put to rest once and for all.

b) The Genocide bit, well, there have certainly been some aspects of genocidal behaviour throughout the history of this land since the Little White Penal settlement was first set up. Once again, it is mostly to do with perception most likely, however, people get quite attached to their perceptions, attached enough to fight over them in fact.

As far as an "invasion" goes, I have put this to a group of Aboriginal men previously - if the establishment of a Penal Settlement consisting of about 1500 people was an invasion, how is it your land (the indigenous people) was taken over by a mere 1500 people, most of whom were malnourished convicts...?

Not really an invasion, but a mightily emotive slogan.

It does not remove the reality that people (regardless of colour, religion or social grouping) are imminently capable of being really nasty, aggressive and mindlessly violent towards other people...
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Reply #42 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 8:22am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 8:14am:
I do not and will not buy the BS about invasion and genocide.

Neither are true, nor were they ever.

Both are a result of the politically-correct attempting to re-write history.

Spruiking that sort of crap will get NO sympathy from me.


Oh, and I don't think that "crap" was spruiked here...
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Reply #43 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 9:09am
 
Must be because of all the softc0ck PC moaners  like
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Reply #44 - Jan 26th, 2015 at 9:50am
 
Gnads wrote on Jan 26th, 2015 at 9:09am:
Must be because of all the softc0ck PC moaners  like
Peemandik  Roll Eyes


Not sure what you are trying to say here, but, regardless I sincerely hope you enjoy embracing little white penal day with all of the other celebrants...
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