Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 11:58am:


Yes, Brian, kindly stick to the subject of Muslims stealing our women. Read the Daily Mail.article for assistance if you need to.

Oh, why are the papers full of these Muslims? You don’t hear about Boongs stealing or women, or Chows. A Curry wouldn’t dare.

No one try to derail Herbie’s thread this time, thanks. He was only kidding around in the last one.

This one’s for real.

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 10:02am:


Monday September 17, 2007


STORIES BY SHAHANAAZ HABIB


A convert speaks about the unreasonable pressures on new Muslims.
Speaking at a dinner talk during the conference, organised by the Muslim Professionals Forum and the Women, Family and Community Development Ministry, Carland, who was named Australian Muslim of the Year in 2004, was brutally honest about the treatment of converts at the hands of “born” Muslims.

“Lifting the Veil” (as her talk was aptly titled), what she had to say certainly made many cringe.

Barely have the last words of the shahada (proclamation of faith) left the lips of new converts, she said, they find themselves bombarded with rules to adhere to.

“Never mind that the sister doesn’t know how to pray. She is told she must get rid of all her old clothing, because it is too Western and thus unIslamic and put on the hijab (head scarf) immediately.

“Don’t worry that our new brother has only been a Muslim for three minutes. He’s already been told that he has to throw out all his music and get rid of his dog or he’d be committing a big sin.”

The list of unreasonable pressures on converts includes telling converts to leave their so-called haram jobs immediately, even if the person had no other source of income.

The newbies are asked to give up hobbies like painting, photography, dancing or playing instruments. They’re advised to move out and sever ties with their kafir (infidel) family and non-Muslim friends, while female converts are urged to get married as soon as possible. They are often expected to give up their own cultures and take on Arab, sub-continental, Malay or other cultures because these are deemed to be more “Islamic”. ...

Carland also takes the Muslim community to task for having an almost schizophrenic attitude towards converts.

On one hand, she pointed out, Muslims liked converts because they made them (the Muslims) feel good about themselves and their faith. But on the flip side, converts were often made to feel inferior by those born Muslims…

On mosques, Carland said these institutions were just not supportive enough of new converts.

”Female converts report being shouted out, criticised and, worse, simply ignored by both other women and men, the first time they nervously enter a mosque. Often they report leaving in tears,” she disclosed… She cited an incident in which the father of her close Chinese friend in Malaysia had gone to a mosque here to convert, but was told to leave instead....



http://www.thestar.com.my/story/?file=%2f2007%2f9%2f17%2flifefocus%2f18880041&se...


Er... no 'tiny minority' is mentioned.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:43pm:



I'm sensing derision.

Certainly not fear or insecurity. There is disbelief and derision and a fair bit of 'what the bugger was she thinking???"

No surprises ... the UK once again witnesses Islam-in-action and doing what has always come naturally to its congregation: Intimidation, bribery, and Threats of VIOLENCE to help muscle their way into positions of power. It's a stereotype that proves itself time and time again.

"Britain's first elected Muslim mayor is 'a liar and perjurer' who used corruption, intimidation and fraud to win a second term, a court heard today.

Lutfur Rahman, who runs Tower Hamlets Council, 'subverted democracy' during a campaign last May characterised by bribery, 'ghost voting', smears and 'foul libel', the High Court heard.

"Meanwhile a letter signed by 101 Islamic figures which was published in a Bengali newspaper said not voting for Rahman was an 'un-Islamic and a sinful act', it was claimed.

The 49-year-old politician is being investigated after local campaigners compiled a vast dossier of evidence showing his re-election was rigged.

"Today Francis Hoar, for the petitioners, who were also political opponents, opened the seven-week trial.

Mr Hoar said his clients had 'reported threats of violence, threats to their families in Bangladesh, pressure from their employers and pressure from their communities'.

The barrister said witnesses 'know about Lutfur Rahman and they know how, almost one year ago, he subverted democracy to be re-elected Mayor of Tower Hamlets'.

'Since the beginning of his political career, he has been prepared to take whatever steps, use whatever means, recruit whatever support, to obtain power - power for himself, power for his friends and most importantly, power over his community.

'He knows what the law is and his attempts to pretend otherwise during the case should fall on deaf ears.' "

The introduction of Islam into the UK is a scourge, not a blessing.

link

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 11:11am:




Ummm, it was done in contravention of Halal practice. So its not a religious issue, its an abattoir cutting corners issue.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 11:49am:



No it was a batch of bearded people. The religion is irrelevant.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 11:57am:



Reported