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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38823 Gender:	Australian of the Year. Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:05pm I dunno who won. Don't care. Every year, we search the cupboards for some crumb. Every year, some token crumb gets the worthless title. Why do we bother with this?
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Reply #1 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:12pm

https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/26093026/rosie-batty-2015-australian-of-the-year/

Woman campaigner on 'domestic violence - thus ensuring that the focus will be on the traditional 'man v woman' violence - as if that is the entire issue - to the detriment of men, children and society as a whole, and to the utter detriment of the Rule of Law.

Expect 'preventative violence' against men on whim to increase, thus tipping the pendulum further and further out of kilter and actually creating more trouble than it prevents, until the whole things becomes what it is in reality - just a free-for-all for anyone to inflict violence on anyone else, then complain when they get back more than they give.

What else would you expect?

This country has had its balls removed from it, and violence against men is totally acceptable as long as it is by the State and by often insane women with issues.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #2 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:15pm I knew it would be a Sheila, just as I knew it'd be an abo last year, but it's hard to begrudge it to her, or expect her not to go on a crusade. Her son did get his head smashed in by his dad after all, but it's how that incident is exploited by higher powers that's the worry.
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Steampipe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1914 WA Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #3 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:16pm Looks like we have the first two nominations for dickheads of the year.
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Reply #4 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:18pm

... wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

I knew it would be a Sheila, just as I knew it'd be an abo last year, but it's hard to begrudge it to her, or expect her not to go on a crusade. Her son did get his head smashed in by his dad after all, but it's how that incident is exploited by higher powers that's the worry.

What about the dads who had their eight kids knifed by 'mum' in Queenslund (you mark my words - we do things differnently up here! and much bigger by half!).

Surely their standing up against domestic violence merits an award.....

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #5 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:19pm Poor woman. She lost a son only because of a revolting, reactive legal system. Now another part of said system is trying to make it up to her by giving her an award.
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #6 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:20pm Steampipe wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:16pm: Looks like we have the first two nominations for dickheads of the year. Who is your competition?
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Re: Australian of the Year.
Reply #7 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Poor woman. She lost a son only because of a revolting, reactive legal system.

Now another part of said system is trying to make it up to her by giving her an award.

Good point - but I hardly think we need to descend any further into the 'Minority Report' scenarios to prevent possible crimes.... i.e. exercising violence to prevent violence - there's enough of that going around already.

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Re: Australian of the Year.
Reply #8 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:24pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Poor woman. She lost a son only because of a revolting, reactive legal system.

Now another part of said system is trying to make it up to her by giving her an award.

Good point - but I hardly think we need to descend any further into the 'Minority Report' scenarios to prevent possible crimes.... i.e. exercising violence to prevent violence - there's enough of that going around already.

Was just telling it as it is. K?

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Reply #9 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:31pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:24pm:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:21pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:19pm:

Poor woman. She lost a son only because of a revolting, reactive legal system.

Now another part of said system is trying to make it up to her by giving her an award.

Good point - but I hardly think we need to descend any further into the 'Minority Report' scenarios to prevent possible crimes.... i.e. exercising violence to prevent violence - there's enough of that going around already.

Was just telling it as it is. K?

I know, Lisa - this entire issue as it now stands is filled with pain for too many - and pain handed out creates violence. And I agree that a token in no way substitutes for the losses involved - for all involved.

I recall - if I do correctly - that the old man was a crazy... same as Monis .. we do not need to hang, draw and quarter all men on suggestion for that...

You'd have to be crazy to kill your own children, and unfortunately the majority - by seven times - are killed by the mother in company with the 'new lion' she takes on. That is fact, and should be fully addressed in the current review in Victoria - not that I expect it will be.

All I can say about the representations so far is that if 'dv' is the greatest cause of disability in women - there must be a very tiny number of women disabled in society.... and blaming a man for a woman's inbuilt history and inherited issues is not on...

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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #10 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:25pm Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:05pm: I dunno who won. Don't care. Every year, we search the cupboards for some crumb. Every year, some token crumb gets the worthless title. Why do we bother with this? x 2
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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Australian of the Year. Reply #11 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:27pm it'll be a Muslim next year.. mark my words.. or a Muslim apologist.. peccary???
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Re: Australian of the Year.
Reply #12 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:37pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

I dunno who won. Don't care. Every year, we search the cupboards for some crumb. Every year, some token crumb gets the worthless title. Why do we bother with this?

x 2

Thanks for the 'x 2.' But it's like when Abbott gave Cosgrove and his predecessor the Sir/Dame titles. It's just dumb. Every year, after every year, after every year after every year, some Committee (paid for by us) goes around the Country begging that people nominate or be nominated for the next year's gongee. Are those who missed out last Year (the Year before, the Year before etc.) no longer worthy through sheer happenstance of time? It is just dumb.

If these people have done great work, then reward them when they do it with something far more worthwhile than some useless title which diminishes in value as every year passes.

Is there another Country which looks through the year's scraps to find the more worthy? And how the hell does some person get found to be more worthy than another in this context. If you become as cynical as I seem now to be, you'd almost call this obscene.

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Re: Australian of the Year.
Reply #13 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:59pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:18pm:

... wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:15pm:

I knew it would be a Sheila, just as I knew it'd be an abo last year, but it's hard to begrudge it to her, or expect her not to go on a crusade. Her son did get his head smashed in by his dad after all, but it's how that incident is exploited by higher powers that's the worry.

What about the dads who had their eight kids knifed by 'mum' in Queenslund (you mark my words - we do things differnently up here! and much bigger by half!).

Surely their standing up against domestic violence merits an award.....

I am not sure killing 8 children is Domestic Violence...

"Murder" I think its called...

sadly this women was sick...... where were these dads when she needed help?

someone must have noticed something?

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Re: Australian of the Year.
Reply #14 - Jan 25^th, 2015 at 9:03pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:37pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 8:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 7:05pm:

I dunno who won. Don't care. Every year, we search the cupboards for some crumb. Every year, some token crumb gets the worthless title. Why do we bother with this?

x 2

Thanks for the 'x 2.' But it's like when Abbott gave Cosgrove and his predecessor the Sir/Dame titles. It's just dumb. Every year, after every year, after every year after every year, some Committee (paid for by us) goes around the Country begging that people nominate or be nominated for the next year's gongee. Are those who missed out last Year (the Year before, the Year before etc.) no longer worthy through sheer happenstance of time? It is just dumb.

If these people have done great work, then reward them when they do it with something far more worthwhile than some useless title which diminishes in value as every year passes.

Is there another Country which looks through the year's scraps to find the more worthy? And how the hell does some person get found to be more worthy than another in this context. If you become as cynical as I seem now to be, you'd almost call this obscene.

stop being such a misery.. wasnt your name called again??...the people get nominated by others...

aussie you did every thing to get the job of GM dont pretend otherwise...its the same thing.. only on a a much smaller scale..you get nominated...or nominate yourself.,. and you either win or you lose..

every year GMs change do we carry on about it?????...well I dont but some do.

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