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Labor's debt is crippling the nation
Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:01am
 
THE federal government is paying more than $30 million a day to cover a net debt of $245 billion — or enough to build the WestConnex more than 20 times. 
 
Prime Minister Tony Abbott yesterday said Australia was at risk of becoming a “second-rate country” if budget saving measures were not passed to ease the out of ­control debt, with annual ­interest payments adding up to nearly $11 billion.

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Senior business figures have called on the government to make a 10-year ­budget plan to get Australia back in the black.

Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott yesterday delivered a keynote speech to Australian Unity Great Australia Day Breakfast desperately urging political leaders to ­reform the budget.

She highlighted the $40.4 billion deficit, $244.8 billion in net debt and $10.8 billion in payments on interest on the debt as evidence for Mr Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to look at ­landmark reforms similar to Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and John Howard.

Ms Westacott said ­politicians needed to prepare “the community for the ­enormous social and economic change that must take place in our society’’.

“The $11 billion interest we are paying this year is not a bookkeeping entry, it is money we cannot spend in areas that the community is crying out for,” she said.

“For example that’s about $2 billion more than we spend on higher education.”

Mr Abbott said thanks to the debt left by back-to-back Labor governments, the children of Australia were on track to be slugged with debt for decades in a dangerous parallel with the continued economic crisis threatening the eurozone. “We are storing up billions of dollars in debt for our children and their children to repay,’’ he said.

“If we aren’t capable of making tough decisions, this country, even this great country, could succumb to the European disease and the point I’ve been making is that without tough decisions, the risk is we will become a second-rate country, living on our luck.”

His grim warning follows the battle to get key savings measures through the senate.

The government still has Medicare and education ­reforms before the senate which appear unlikely to be approved, despite the fact the health reforms would save about $3.5 billion from the budget bottom line. Higher education reforms are expected to save $400 million, $3 billion less than the original plan blocked by the senate.

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Reply #1 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:02am
 
It's time for Labor to stop wrecking this country and allow the government of the day to clean up the colossal mess left behind by the criminally incompetent Wayne Swan - the worst Treasurer this country has ever been forced to endure!!!
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Reply #3 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:04am
 
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She highlighted the $40.4 billion deficit, $244.8 billion in net debt and $10.8 billion in payments on interest on the debt as evidence for Mr Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to look at ­landmark reforms similar to Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and John Howard.


Medicare co-payments is not landmark reform. It's stupidity.
University deregulation is not landmark reform, and will not even help the budget in the short term.

And then what's left from this government? Absolutely nothing. They are pathetic.  Time for a DD.
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Reply #4 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:05am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:02am:
It's time for Labor to stop wrecking this country and allow the government of the day to clean up the colossal mess left behind by the criminally incompetent Wayne Swan - the worst Treasurer this country has ever been forced to endure!!!

Yep, they are cleaning it up with a $40.4 BILLION DEFICIT this year Grin Grin Grin

Well done Idiot tony and the smokin hog.
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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:06am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:04am:
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She highlighted the $40.4 billion deficit, $244.8 billion in net debt and $10.8 billion in payments on interest on the debt as evidence for Mr Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to look at ­landmark reforms similar to Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and John Howard.


Medicare co-payments is not landmark reform. It's stupidity.
University deregulation is not landmark reform, and will not even help the budget in the short term.

And then what's left from this government? Absolutely nothing. They are pathetic.  Time for a DD.


You want to see the doctor, you've got to pay for it. Either that, or pay more tax to get free healthcare, like the good people of Denmark, who enjoy free healthcare, free higher education, free public transport, etc all because they pay a higher rate of tax than us.
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Reply #6 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am
 
Nowhere does it say it's Labor's debt.
Or is the abbott mobs new debt Labor's debt too ?

Desperation from teaspoon when the abbott mob realise their leader is an idiot.
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Reply #7 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:05am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:02am:
It's time for Labor to stop wrecking this country and allow the government of the day to clean up the colossal mess left behind by the criminally incompetent Wayne Swan - the worst Treasurer this country has ever been forced to endure!!!

Yep, they are cleaning it up with a $40.4 BILLION DEFICIT this year Grin Grin Grin

Well done Idiot tony and the smokin hog.


How big was the deficit when they took over? How big was the debt? How many savings measures has Labor blocked? They're even blocking savings measures they advocated prior to the election! That's irresponsible in the extreme - Labor in a nutshell, really.
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Reply #8 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
____ wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
Nowhere does it say it's Labor's debt.
Or is the abbott mobs new debt Labor's debt too ?

Desperation from teaspoon when the abbott mob realise their leader is an idiot.


So Abbott ran up that debt during Labor's six years in office? Just stop embarrassing yourself, fool. Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:09am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:05am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:02am:
It's time for Labor to stop wrecking this country and allow the government of the day to clean up the colossal mess left behind by the criminally incompetent Wayne Swan - the worst Treasurer this country has ever been forced to endure!!!

Yep, they are cleaning it up with a $40.4 BILLION DEFICIT this year Grin Grin Grin

Well done Idiot tony and the smokin hog.


How big was the deficit when they took over? How big was the debt? How many savings measures has Labor blocked? They're even blocking savings measures they advocated prior to the election! That's irresponsible in the extreme - Labor in a nutshell, really.



It's also a lie.

Not to mention hypocritical in the extreme.
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Reply #10 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:10am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:06am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:04am:
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She highlighted the $40.4 billion deficit, $244.8 billion in net debt and $10.8 billion in payments on interest on the debt as evidence for Mr Abbott and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten to look at ­landmark reforms similar to Gough Whitlam, Bob Hawke and John Howard.


Medicare co-payments is not landmark reform. It's stupidity.
University deregulation is not landmark reform, and will not even help the budget in the short term.

And then what's left from this government? Absolutely nothing. They are pathetic.  Time for a DD.


You want to see the doctor, you've got to pay for it. Either that, or pay more tax to get free healthcare, like the good people of Denmark, who enjoy free healthcare, free higher education, free public transport, etc all because they pay a higher rate of tax than us.

Well that's precisely it knuckles, why would this government waste its time trying to get peanuts from the sick, when they ought to be looking at the overall revenue side of the equation? you know - get some balls and actually reform the tax system as a whole? 

Not to mention all the wonderful nonsense spending form the Howard era that can simply be gone away with. Remove Family tax benefits and all of a sudden you save double in the first year than what medicare co payments will bring in over 4 years. D'uh. 
This government is pathetic. Time for a DD.
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Reply #11 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:12am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:08am:
____ wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
Nowhere does it say it's Labor's debt.
Or is the abbott mobs new debt Labor's debt too ?

Desperation from teaspoon when the abbott mob realise their leader is an idiot.


So Abbott ran up that debt during Labor's six years in office? Just stop embarrassing yourself, fool. Roll Eyes



Abbott has ran up debt by spending like drunken sailors since taking office.

meanwhile the howard mob ran things into the ground and pork barrelled the mining boom.

Meanwhile they over committed future budgets.

Both Lib Lab are responsible and stop trying to whitewash history.
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Re: Labor's debt is crippling the nation
Reply #12 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:13am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:05am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:02am:
It's time for Labor to stop wrecking this country and allow the government of the day to clean up the colossal mess left behind by the criminally incompetent Wayne Swan - the worst Treasurer this country has ever been forced to endure!!!

Yep, they are cleaning it up with a $40.4 BILLION DEFICIT this year Grin Grin Grin

Well done Idiot tony and the smokin hog.


How big was the deficit when they took over? How big was the debt? How many savings measures has Labor blocked? They're even blocking savings measures they advocated prior to the election! That's irresponsible in the extreme - Labor in a nutshell, really.


Senate is a review house, which reviews the legislation coming in. If they don't agree it's up to the government to negotiate. It's a pity this government is full of absolute nice people with an ideology that doesn't suit this country.

Plus, if the senate is being obstructive, the government has ability to trigger a DD.  Off they go, let's get a DD. Why not?
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Reply #13 - Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:18am
 
____ wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:12am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:08am:
____ wrote on Jan 27th, 2015 at 7:07am:
Nowhere does it say it's Labor's debt.
Or is the abbott mobs new debt Labor's debt too ?

Desperation from teaspoon when the abbott mob realise their leader is an idiot.


So Abbott ran up that debt during Labor's six years in office? Just stop embarrassing yourself, fool. Roll Eyes



Abbott has ran up debt by spending like drunken sailors since taking office.

meanwhile the howard mob ran things into the ground and pork barrelled the mining boom.

Meanwhile they over committed future budgets.

Both Lib Lab are responsible and stop trying to whitewash history.


Yeah, you've got nothing but lies.
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Thank heavens for the good people in the senate.      Smiley
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