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Reply #15 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:21am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:16am:
Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:53am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.


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He told 2GB he was sceptical that as much as $20 billion could be raised from the poles and wires sale, and claimed he could use the existing capital infrastructure program to build projects. “The state has a $15 billion annual infrastructure spend, or $150 billion over 10 years,” Mr Foley said.


He has very reasonably pointed out that his projects would fit under current spending arrangements and that in all probability the sell off will not generate enough cash to pay for the Libs promises anyway.

A typical Liberal spending black hole and promises that will not be kept. Same old Liberals.


Labor won't build anything unless they go into debt, which isn't a smart way of doing things. Experience has shown us that Labor is incapable of managing debt proficiently and so this scenario - a Labor government - should be avoided like the plague.


You seem to forget that before the GFC every Labor state budget was in surplus for over a decade and that during the GFC every state government including the Liberal ones went into deficit. Your dogma base unsupportable rhetoric means little no matter how many times you repeat the same old guff.
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Reply #16 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:25am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Kat wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am:
____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:44am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



So you are complaining about infrastructure not being built while complaining infrastructure building is done via debt.

Move over cods, we have a new leader in the race for whinger award 2015.


No, he's complaining because it's being done by Labor, and for no other reason.

Coalition plan, he'd be all over it.

I grow more intelligent tomatoes than this bloke.


Wow, you're stupid. Never thought I'd see you claim tomatoes possess any level of intelligence!



I think the point is that no level of intelligence is required to be smarter than that bloke probably shown by the need to explain it, the tomato got it straight away.
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Reply #17 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:26am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:25am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
Kat wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:14am:
____ wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:44am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



So you are complaining about infrastructure not being built while complaining infrastructure building is done via debt.

Move over cods, we have a new leader in the race for whinger award 2015.


No, he's complaining because it's being done by Labor, and for no other reason.

Coalition plan, he'd be all over it.

I grow more intelligent tomatoes than this bloke.


Wow, you're stupid. Never thought I'd see you claim tomatoes possess any level of intelligence!



I think the point is that no level of intelligence is required to be smarter than that bloke probably shown by the need to explain it, the tomato got it straight away.


And you just joined Kat... Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:52am
 
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Reply #19 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:56am
 
Sydney doesn't need another harbour tunnel nor does it need a direct link between North Sydney and Bankstown.
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Reply #20 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:06am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
It seems the ACTU/ALP party's position is to complain about Liberal infrastructure while lauding their own... and that about sums it up.



That's how it works from both sides - criticise the other guy's idea and then give your own.... probably both equally dumb...

I fail to see how building one thing for $20bn is less costly or debt-incurring than building something else for $20bn....

Perhaps both governments should be seriously looking at my both left and right TSTCL - Trans Sydney Tunnels Corporation Limited.. all road and rail infrastructure deep within the bowels of the earth - travel from one side of Sydney to the other in twenty minutes... plenty of sandstone there to dig.....

Dig in de groun' de devil don' catch ye!
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Reply #21 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:18am
 
There's also the fact that there are already two lines from the north, the 'Short North' through
Eastwood/Epping from Hornsby, and the 'Long North' which crosses the harbour.
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Reply #22 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:21am
 
cods wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:54am:
Foley looks a lot like Milne....UGH

something tells me cods has a crush on Milne.   Kiss Kiss
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Reply #23 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 8:22am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
It seems the ACTU/ALP party's position is to complain about Liberal infrastructure while lauding their own... and that about sums it up.

and what about vice versa mr partisan?
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Reply #24 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:13am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:26am:
LABOR leader Luke Foley has said he will dump the second harbour rail tunnel to connect the North West Rail line to the Bankstown line if he wins the March state election. 
 
“I am not convinced another connection from the north is a priority for the city,” Mr Foley said yesterday, as he promised to release his infrastructure plan next month.

“I am looking at all the proposals on the drawing board at the moment and I’ll have a policy before the public of NSW early in the campaign.”

Premier Mike Baird is promising to use the $20 billion he says he will reap from a 49 per cent long-term lease of electricity networks to build the second harbour rail tunnel, as well as new connections to the north and south for the WestConnex Motorway.

Without the second harbour crossing rapid transit line, the $8.3 billion North West Rail Link would begin at Rouse Hill and end at Chatswood, creating a possible logjam.

Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.

The second harbour crossing has been costed at $10.4 b.

Mr Foley said he did not want to comment further until he released his policy. Mr Baird has promised $10.4 billion for a Sydney Rapid Transit line including a second Sydney Harbour crossing, new CBD stations and conversion of the Bankstown Line to rapid transit. The government has also promised $1 billion for a Western Sydney Rail Upgrade Program to improve the network, $1 billion for Parramatta Light Rail, a $4.5 billion Western Harbour road tunnel and $1.5 billion WestConnex connections to the south and west. I

t is likely Labor will also commit to Parramatta Light Rail, with ex-leader John Robertson having pledged money for a feasibility study into the project. But Mr Foley would not say whether he would keep WestConnex extensions.

He told 2GB he was sceptical that as much as $20 billion could be raised from the poles and wires sale, and claimed he could use the existing capital infrastructure program to build projects. “The state has a $15 billion annual infrastructure spend, or $150 billion over 10 years,” Mr Foley said.


Mr Baird hit back last night, saying without the Sydney Rapid Transit “all heavy rail lines are forecast to reach capacity between 2017 and 2024”.

“Anybody who opposes SRT also opposes a 60 per cent increase in the capacity of the rail system during peak periods, along with end-to-end journeys from the outer-northwest to the southwest, without the need for interchange at Chatswood,” he said.

“Labor’s legacy to NSW was a $30 billion infrastructure backlog … they have learned nothing and lack vision.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/luke-foley-derails-second-harbour-rail...



Does not matter what the union puppet foley says.
Labor won,t get in
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Reply #25 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



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Reply #26 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:32am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



They all drive.


Glad you don't generalise.

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Reply #27 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:52am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:32am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



They all drive.


Glad you don't generalise.




Generally not.
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Reply #28 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:57am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:52am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:32am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 11:17am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 6:28am:
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Labor has committed to the WestConnex project and to maintaining the North West Rail, but it has to find ways of funding other projects given it is going to the March 28 poll opposing the sale of the electricity “poles and wires”.


Don't see how Labor can fund anything without going into debt, which is the Labor way after all. It also shows how short-sighted Foley is, opposing the second harbour rail tunnel. Apparently residents in North Sydney don't deserve good rail services.



They all drive.


Glad you don't generalise.




Generally not.


Clever retort. Amusing too.
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Reply #29 - Jan 28th, 2015 at 12:10pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Jan 28th, 2015 at 7:18am:
It seems the ACTU/ALP party's position is to complain about Liberal infrastructure while lauding their own... and that about sums it up.



Would that be the same as the IPA/LNP party's complaining about Labor infrastructure whilst lauding their own?

Thanks for bringing the discussion down to Tones level of understanding.
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