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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #135 - Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:57pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:40pm:
Maybe, but all the evidence we collect merely strengthens the case for evolution it doesn't weaken it.


Maybe eh? So you are uncertain also. You seem ok with such a stance.

Some of us are not ok with it though.




No, it was a dismissive maybe of your hand waving. I'm as certain of evolution as anything in my life.


Are you now? Do tell... what are you certain of in your life Professor Outrage Bus?
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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #136 - Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:59pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:40pm:
Maybe, but all the evidence we collect merely strengthens the case for evolution it doesn't weaken it.


Maybe eh? So you are uncertain also. You seem ok with such a stance.

Some of us are not ok with it though.




No, it was a dismissive maybe of your hand waving. I'm as certain of evolution as anything in my life.


Are you now? Do tell... what are you certain of in your life Professor Outrage Bus?


Evolution. Death, taxes, the stupidity of man.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #137 - Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:12pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:40pm:
Maybe, but all the evidence we collect merely strengthens the case for evolution it doesn't weaken it.


Maybe eh? So you are uncertain also. You seem ok with such a stance.

Some of us are not ok with it though.




No, it was a dismissive maybe of your hand waving. I'm as certain of evolution as anything in my life.


Are you now? Do tell... what are you certain of in your life Professor Outrage Bus?


Evolution. Death, taxes, the stupidity of man.


I see.

I am certain of :

God, eternal life, taxes, the stupidity of man <---- & his finite mindedness & uncertainty where knowledge is concerned.

Your future seems rather lonely & bleak compared to mine.



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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #138 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 12:38am
 
vikaryan wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:50am:
Secularists: We’re Fine Without God, Thanks


Re “Building Better Secularists” (column, Feb. 3):

David Brooks says secular individuals have to build their own moral philosophies, while religious people inherit creeds that have evolved over centuries. Autonomous secular people are called upon to settle on their own individual sacred convictions.

Secularists don’t have to “build” anything; we can choose moral philosophies from what’s already well tested. If religious people think that their “faith” excuses them from evaluating the duties and taboos handed down to them, they are morally obtuse.

Does Mr. Brooks think that religious people are not “called upon to settle on their own individual sacred convictions”? Children may be excused for taking it on authority, but not adults.

Mr. Brooks writes, “Religious people are motivated by their love for God and their fervent desire to please Him.”
We secularists have no need for love of any imaginary being
, since there is a bounty of real things in the world to love, and to motivate us: peace, justice, freedom, learning, music, art, science, nature, love and health, for instance.

Our advice: Eliminate the middleman, and love the good stuff that we know is real.


DANIEL C. DENNETT

Medford, Mass.

The writer, a professor of philosophy at Tufts University, is co-author of “Caught in the Pulpit: Leaving Belief Behind.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/opinion/secularists-were-fine-without-god-thanks.html?_r=0


How presumptuous of David Brooks to instruct us “secularists” on how to live the moral life. We have to build our own moral philosophies? Nonsense. I learned mine from my atheistic parents and from teachers throughout my education (not to mention Aristotle, Kant, Mill and the many other moral philosophers I studied).

We have to reflect on spiritual matters? No, I reflect on the injustices in this world, why so many children in the United States go hungry, and why centuries of violence continue to persist in the name of religion.


In place of the religious spiritual life, we atheists may be enraptured by a Beethoven symphony, moved by the poetry of Elizabeth Barrett Browning, enchanted by a Rembrandt portrait.
We have to build our own Sabbaths? No, thanks; I’ll spend my secular weekends at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, attending a New York Philharmonic concert or rereading “A Theory of Justice,” by John Rawls.


RUTH MACKLIN

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The writer is a professor of bioethics in the department of epidemiology and population health at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/opinion/secularists-were-fine-without-god-thanks.html?_r=0



I wonder when these so called intelligent men will own mankinds own shyte instead of trying to make out God doesn't exist by making out he doesn't intervene in mankinds stupidity and force a good outcome. If He did that life would not be worth living and we would not have a free will. We would just be mindless robots forced to act a certain way.

Either way you cut it Athiest rants about God are moot as they have no way of proving one doesn't exist at all.
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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.
 
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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #139 - Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:08pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:12pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:59pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:51pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:46pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 10:40pm:
Maybe, but all the evidence we collect merely strengthens the case for evolution it doesn't weaken it.


Maybe eh? So you are uncertain also. You seem ok with such a stance.

Some of us are not ok with it though.




No, it was a dismissive maybe of your hand waving. I'm as certain of evolution as anything in my life.


Are you now? Do tell... what are you certain of in your life Professor Outrage Bus?


Evolution. Death, taxes, the stupidity of man.


I see.

I am certain of :

God, eternal life, taxes, the stupidity of man <---- & his finite mindedness & uncertainty where knowledge is concerned.

Your future seems rather lonely & bleak compared to mine.





Unlikely I find joy in just living
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #140 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 8:47am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 21st, 2015 at 9:08pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 20th, 2015 at 11:12pm:

I see.

I am certain of :

God, eternal life, taxes, the stupidity of man <---- & his finite mindedness & uncertainty where knowledge is concerned.

Your future seems rather lonely & bleak compared to mine.






Unlikely I find joy in just living






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Humanity lost

"My precious!"





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I consider myself to be a stranger in a strange land.

I must i am compelled, to live in this world, every day.

But i do not consider myself to be 'at home' here.

I have not 'gone native' here.

Yadda


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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #141 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:11am
 
Sounds like a struggle.
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Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story....
Reply #142 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:16am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:11am:
Sounds like a struggle.


Life IS a struggle. No one has it easy.
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Reply #143 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 6:38pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:16am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:11am:
Sounds like a struggle.


Life IS a struggle. No one has it easy.



Sarcasm
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Reply #144 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 6:55pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 6:38pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:16am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 9:11am:
Sounds like a struggle.


Life IS a struggle. No one has it easy.



Sarcasm


I don't know how to take you anymore.
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Reply #145 - Feb 24th, 2015 at 3:54pm
 
It is easy to find joy in living without believing in God.

The need to validate your existence by attributing it to a divine being strikes Raven has misguided.

Humans have always wondered why we are here. Perhaps there is no why merely our own arrogant sense of self importance that leads us to concoct an after life and a 'loving god'
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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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Reply #146 - Feb 26th, 2015 at 6:42am
 
Laws of Nature


As usual, Cal Thomas misleads again with his column, "Rights come from Creator" (Feb. 21). Everything Thomas wrote came from man. Everything that was ever written was written by man. And what Thomas failed to mention was that the God Thomas Jefferson talked about in the Declaration of Independence wasn't the God from the Jewish Torah, which is also the Old Testament, or the God from the New Testament. Thomas Jefferson clarified that God in the very first paragraph of the Declaration of Independence, which reads: "… and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Why did Thomas fail to disclose the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God? Because in nature over 10 percent of the animals are homosexual and that makes homosexuality a right since nature's God also created them. If Thomas and his fans want to adhere to their God's laws, then they need to bring back slavery, ban divorces unless one's wife has committed pornia, put to death anyone who works on Saturday or Sunday (the Sabbath) and so on and so on. Or, is it ok for man to decide not to follow God's laws? The days of using religion to control the masses is over, Thomas. You can stop your propaganda now.

http://www.news-press.com/story/opinion/readers/local/2015/02/24/wednesdays-letters-editor/23943389/
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Reply #147 - Feb 26th, 2015 at 6:53am
 
Evolution Is A Fact, NOT A Theory!


Re: “Thrasher is right on evolution,” Feb. 13

I guess Dr. Nalls follows the Fox News philosophy of “make up facts and then trumpet them as gospel.” His statements on the facts and history of evolutionary thought are completely unsupported within the scientific community.

Science is a process by which scientists conduct their work in the search for answers, not a belief system like religion. If the theory of evolution had problems, then science would attempt to correct it. Yet the basic premise that all life on earth is related to a common ancestor and that life forms vary through time is pretty well supported by real scientists and also by experimental evidence more than 150 years after the publication of “On the Origin of Species.”


I am guessing that the prefix “Dr.” has nothing to do with an earned post-baccalaureate degree in science or medicine. If John Thrasher chooses to remain ignorant on facts that underpin modern biological theory, that is his choice, but I sincerely hope that he supports the academic freedom of faculty and students at FSU to disagree with him.

DAN C. MARELLI, PH.D. (Biology, FSU)

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dmarelli@scientificdiving.com

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Reply #148 - Feb 26th, 2015 at 7:15am
 
God &
Santa &
Unicorns.

There Is No God
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Reply #149 - Feb 26th, 2015 at 11:06am
 
Raven wrote on Feb 24th, 2015 at 3:54pm:
It is easy to find joy in living without believing in God.

The need to validate your existence by attributing it to a divine being strikes Raven has misguided.

Humans have always wondered why we are here. Perhaps there is no why merely our own arrogant sense of self importance that leads us to concoct an after life and a 'loving god'



The gigantic self-conceit atheists are very prone to is to not face the absurdity of their position and to believe that their entire existence is without purpose or meaning while they, like everyone else, go about their daily tasks and life and relationships as if these elements of life had a reason and purpose.

If they were true and equal to their professed beliefs they would not live as if the elements of their lives have any meaning or purpose. But they do. They live purposeful, meaningful lives, forever struggling for meaning and purpose in the small daily aspects of their entirely meaningless and purposeless lives.  In the face of absurdity they neither kill themselves nor revolt against their absurd position. Instead, having settled on an absurd position, they become smug.





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