Amadd wrote on Feb 27^th, 2015 at 9:44pm:


I would disagree with this to be honest.  In general people are better than their religions, which is why (the vast majority) of Christians don't support slaves and  (the vast majority of)Hindus no longer practice Sati.

Stratos wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:48am:

The answer is obvious - it in not the god you don't believe in.
Nobody believes in the God you so fervently don't believe in.

Soren wrote on Feb 26^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:


Your argument is flawed. You assume that because there may be no reason life exists then there is no meaning in life. That is a closed minded assumption.

You ask where Raven, (snide comment to follow) clump of earth, got the idea to give life meaning, independent thought honed after centuries of evolution. Not as a sheep, blindly following a "Shepard" and relying on him to give purpose and meaning. You appear incapable of exercising independent thought. Instead relying on a deity to tell you how to act, what to feel, a celestial North Korea that can convict you of thought crimes, now and until the end of eternity.

It is akin to slavery, working on the promise of paradise. But displease your master and spend eternity in torment.

That is why religion is so successful, not because of the carrot, but because of the stick.

Stratos wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 10:16pm:


Yes, I agree also, however, advancement has come in spite of religious texts and teachings, not because of  them.

You'd have to wonder where modern society would be if all populations had blindly followed their religious instruction.
On the same note, you'd have to wonder how much further advanced we might be if religions never existed.

It is the religious who have been forced to backpedal on their scriptures and teachings. Their Gods (the ancient authors) actually got it wrong and they have been forced to admit mistakes in the scriptures, not due to their own morals and philosophical thinking, but due to their fear of losing power.

Raven wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 2:49am:



Talk us through your way of that conundrum.

Try toi make it logical if you can.

One thing that I think is a little misunderstood about the word "atheism" is that most so-called "atheists" are open to the possibility of an intervening deity, but consider it a very slim chance indeed. All we need is a little hard evidence and we're all ears.

A far far greater chance is that all scriptures were written by ordinary men. And I'll bet they never allowed any ink to hit those scriptures through the hand of a woman either.

There's no God's (intervening deity) word within any religion. It's pretty much all men and their own desires, delusions, etc.

It's about time that people grew up and stopped believing in this fairy tale nonsense of yesteryear (millennium).
Aren't we bigger than that by now? The world isn't flat, it's more than 10,000 years old and Jesus Christ never even existed. Get over it.

If it's not a magical intervening God, then it's something like karma, or palmistry, or feng shui, or IITL, or some other load of bs. It's all a belief in something outside of your own control that will somehow magically be on your side.
Guess what? It's no more on your side than Manson's or Hitler's, so you'd better start taking responsibility for the rights and wrongs yourself.

And if I don't believe in an interventionist God, then how can I know the difference between right and wrong? To me, it goes by no other name than common sense.

Yadda wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 11:18pm:


Yadda, yes that's true that we cannot truly understand that which we have not experienced.
But I wouldn't call it a small world if you haven't experienced the reciprocal.