Amadd wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 6:36pm:


Too be fair neither the bible nor god mention the age of the Earth. That 6,000 number was arrived at simply by finding an event in the bible which occurred on an accepted date and then counting backwards all the begats until reaching Adam and Eve.

Now if we assume that god did say the Earth is 6,000 years old there is a very easy way to disprove it that doesn't include carbon dating. Simply look up at the night sky.

If the Earth was only 6,000 years old we wouldn't be able to see most of them because the light would not have reached us yet.

We certainly would not be able to see the other galaxies in the universe because the closet major galaxy Andromeda is 2.5 million light years from us (technically the closest galaxy is a dwarf galaxy called Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy which is 25,000 light years from us.)

So to claim the Earth is 6,000 years old is wrong.

Raven wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 7:02pm:




Mans science and scientific knowledge is built upon man's own assumptions.

All knowledge [mankind's knowledge] is.

Many of the assumptions that man has made, about his circumstance are reasonable and true.

But not all.

We are still searching for 'certainty' - aka 'reality'.




Now, about that speed of light thingy.....

Google;
speed of light not constant

Stratos wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 7:51pm:




So much to do, so little time.



Psalms 63:1
O God, thou art my God; early will I seek thee: my soul thirsteth for thee, my flesh longeth for thee in a dry and thirsty land, where no water is;

Lisa Jones wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 8:05pm:


Time before Abraham added up is approximately 2000 years, time since that time around 4000.  There are many Christians who believe this timeframe means the world is 6000 years old.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 9:32pm:


Yes seriously! SoL is 186,000(I'm old 300,000 KM/s I think)  miles per sec in a vacuum. It travels slower through different mediums, like water, hence refraction.

Wiki:
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Now that may not be what Yadda means. I have heard some Christians say that the speed of light has changed with the age of the universe or some such nonsense, like it used to be faster in a vacuum than it is now. Father forgive them for they know not what they say. I think the rationale behind it is to shrink the time the universe has been in existence. If it travelled faster in the past then things are not as far away as we measure them now and the universe is not as big, ie not the 13.4 billion light years that we can see and the age of the universe.

Once you start believing in a omnipotent god you can believe anything.


I have also had them tell me that the decay rate of radioactive materials has changed over time. It's just a way to make what they want to be true, true. A bit like a father that will always look out for you. Sad really, how afraid of life/death must you be to need these beliefs?


edit: Raven. the age of the Earth of 6,000 years was arrived at by adding up the ages of the biblical patriarchs(he begat him, him who lives this long who begat... etc) by some monk. Not very scientific.

4004bc it all began, just before the bronze age. http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html

And yes, I purposely used Scopes trial stuff link, because....

Stratos wrote on Apr 9^th, 2015 at 8:41pm:



Wait a sec...one minute you're talking 'earth'... now you're talking 'world'.

Make up your mind which it is.

You're all over the place..little wonder you're so confused.

Stratos wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 11:33am:


No. The Holy Bible refers to EARTH...and that is what is being scrutinized here...the Holy Bible..NOT Wiki.

Please refer to Genesis 1: 1, the very 1st verse.

Stratos wrote on Apr 10^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:


Ohhhhh.....so you ARE FINALLY ASKING QUESTIONS NOW?

It took you long enough...sigh.

Now..

Earth = just that...the actual dirt...as per Ancient Greek.

World = the set up within it...again as per Ancient Greek.


Think of the earth as a brick house...and everything in it = the world.