Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 9:55am:


This is pretty much only a big deal in fundamentalist churches, where the majority of Australia's religions groups seem to be a bit more flexible.  The church I used to attend taught creation and anti-evolution.

Yadda wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:23am:



My body is blood and bone and nerve etc. Wtf does clay come into it?

Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 1:34pm:



Oh.




The spirit within the Christian Churches today.


Malachi 3:13
Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
14  Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.





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The spirit within Jesus.


Matthew 15:8
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.


Psalms 73:1
Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
2  But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
3  For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
4  For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
5  They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
6  Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
7  Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
8  They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
9  They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
10  Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
11  And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
12  Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
13  Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
14  For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
15  If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
16  When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
17  Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
18  Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
19  How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.
20  As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.
21  Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
22  So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.
23  Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand.
24  Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.
25  Whom have I in heaven but thee? and there is none upon earth that I desire beside thee.
26  My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever.
27  For, lo, they that are far from thee shall perish: thou hast destroyed all them that go a whoring from thee.
28  But it is good for me to draw near to God: I have put my trust in the Lord GOD, that I may declare all thy works.


Isaiah 43:10
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.


Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 9:12pm:



Your opinion of me, is that i am a herd animal, unable to deviate from the direction of the group ?





Psalms 1:1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.


John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:....





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It is good it is a valuable skill to be able to meditate.

But imo, we should be careful [and also cultivate another skill too], about what it is, that we choose to be, the focus of our meditation.

e.g.
This world, has an alluring fascination for we humans.               

No ?

IMO, it is a fascination which so many of us have become mesmerised by.



Dictionary;
mesmerize  = = capture the whole attention of; fascinate or transfix.        hypnotize.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 9:55am:

Stratos wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:19am:


What type of church was that Stratos?

Stratos wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 8:05pm:


I see. How long were you involved with them?