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Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:42am
 
Big Bang Theory? You’ve got to be kidding.

Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning


(Phys.org) — The universe may have existed forever, according to a new model that applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein’s theory of general relativity. The model may also account for dark matter and dark energy, resolving multiple problems at once. 

The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a “Big Bang” did the universe officially begin.

Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after—not at or before—the singularity.

"The Big Bang singularity is the most serious problem of general relativity because the laws of physics appear to break down there," Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, both in Egypt, told Phys.org.

Ali and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, have shown in a paper published in Physics Letters B that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end.

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html
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Reply #1 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 6:50am
 
Secularists: We’re Fine Without God, Thanks


Re “Building Better Secularists” (column, Feb. 3):

David Brooks says secular individuals have to build their own moral philosophies, while religious people inherit creeds that have evolved over centuries. Autonomous secular people are called upon to settle on their own individual sacred convictions.

Secularists don’t have to “build” anything; we can choose moral philosophies from what’s already well tested. If religious people think that their “faith” excuses them from evaluating the duties and taboos handed down to them, they are morally obtuse.

Does Mr. Brooks think that religious people are not “called upon to settle on their own individual sacred convictions”? Children may be excused for taking it on authority, but not adults.

Mr. Brooks writes, “Religious people are motivated by their love for God and their fervent desire to please Him.”
We secularists have no need for love of any imaginary being
, since there is a bounty of real things in the world to love, and to motivate us: peace, justice, freedom, learning, music, art, science, nature, love and health, for instance.

Our advice: Eliminate the middleman, and love the good stuff that we know is real.


DANIEL C. DENNETT

Medford, Mass.

The writer, a professor of philosophy at Tufts University, is co-author of “Caught in the Pulpit: Leaving Belief Behind.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/opinion/secularists-were-fine-without-god-thanks.html?_r=0


How presumptuous of David Brooks to instruct us “secularists” on how to live the moral life. We have to build our own moral philosophies? Nonsense. I learned mine from my atheistic parents and from teachers throughout my education (not to mention Aristotle, Kant, Mill and the many other moral philosophers I studied).

We have to reflect on spiritual matters? No, I reflect on the injustices in this world, why so many children in the United States go hungry, and why centuries of violence continue to persist in the name of religion.


In place of the religious spiritual life, we atheists may be enraptured by a Beethoven symphony, moved by the poetry of Elizabeth Barrett Browning, enchanted by a Rembrandt portrait.
We have to build our own Sabbaths? No, thanks; I’ll spend my secular weekends at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, attending a New York Philharmonic concert or rereading “A Theory of Justice,” by John Rawls.


RUTH MACKLIN

Bronx

The writer is a professor of bioethics in the department of epidemiology and population health at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/opinion/secularists-were-fine-without-god-thanks.html?_r=0
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Reply #2 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:00am
 

1st sentence!.......      
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"may have"



That is what i like about 'modern science' in this 'modern technological age'.

The scientific 'process', is so definitive.             Tongue

Even scientific hypothesises leaves no place for doubt.            Smiley

......no place for doubt, about the incredible wisdom and insight, of man, in this age !!!!!            Grin



Dictionary;
incredible = =
1 impossible to believe.
2 difficult to believe; extraordinary.







Psalms 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God......


Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


1 Corinthians 1:19
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


Isaiah 29:14
Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:08am
 
God must be real - I read the book.

He has been around for over 2000 years and you just toss a coin and create a topic on the spur of the moment.
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Reply #4 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:22am
 



FROM THE DISPARAGED, BIBLE

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Job 26:7
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

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Dictionary;
disparage = = represent as being of little worth; scorn.



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Jeremiah, inspired by God? made this prediction, around 600 BC, at a time when he, Jeremiah could have had no inkling of the extent, and how much modern astronomy would accomplish and learn, coming into this modern age.

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Jeremiah 31:37
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.


Man as yet, despite advances modern science and astronomy, is still unable to determine a boundary of the universe.

And the foundations of the earth have not, can never be, discovered, because as everyone knows today, the earth simply appears to be 'hanging' in space.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #5 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:23am
 
I don't see why this would disprove or prove a deity either way to be honest.

I think that a steady state universe model would raise a lot of questions too regarding the formation (and age) of planets and stars.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 11:24pm:
Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:27am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:22am:
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.


Don't get too excited Yadda, it also mentions a "firmament" Tongue

Just like the Hindu's shouldn't get excited because their beliefs state that the universe is billions of years old.

Also correct

Still believed without evidence.
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Reply #7 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:38am
 



FROM THE DISPARAGED, BIBLE

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Isaiah 40:21
Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
22  It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
23  That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.


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'upon the circle of the earth'




Dictionary;
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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:43am
 
Stratos wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:23am:
I don't see why this would disprove or prove a deity either way to be honest.

I think that a steady state universe model would raise a lot of questions too regarding the formation (and age) of planets and stars.



I may have missed this but why is the universe expanding at the exact rate explained by the big bang theory?

Wouldn't a static universe be static ?

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I don't see why this would disprove or prove a deity either way to be honest.


Didn't they always say that the big bang theory was what disproved this ? The fact that there was not a steady state universe model for the religious to rely on as proof in support of the bible?
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Reply #9 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:47am
 


Isaiah 45:15
Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.





'God' is not 'unknowable'.

But i do not know what, or who, our God and creator, is.

But the foolishness and vanity of man is on display for everyone to see.


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Reply #10 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:53am
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:43am:
I may have missed this but why is the universe expanding at the exact rate explained by the big bang theory?


Expansion of matter from a singularity. 

Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:38am:
'upon the circle of the earth'


The Earth is not a circle.  You are missing a dimension Tongue
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Reply #11 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:07am
 
Stratos wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:53am:
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 7:38am:
'upon the circle of the earth'


The Earth is not a circle.  You are missing a dimension Tongue




No, the Earth is not a 'circle'.


But viewed from space, the Earth appears to have a circular form.



The Bible does not claim that the Earth is a flat plane.

But it was just a few centuries ago that it was a popular 'hypothesis' among the common man, AND, among men of science [at that time], that the earth was 'obviously' situated/existed upon a flat plane.

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Reply #12 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:13am
 
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:07am:
But viewed from space, the Earth appears to have a circular form.


I dunno, its pretty obviously spherical.  Especially as if you are watching from space you can observe it spinning.

Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:07am:
But it was just a few centuries ago that it was a popular 'hypothesis' among the common man, AND, among men of science [at that time], that the earth was 'obviously' situated/existed upon a flat plane.


Yup.  With their knowledge at the time, this was a quite rational explanation based on the information they had.

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Reply #13 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:22am
 
Stratos wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:13am:
Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:07am:
But viewed from space, the Earth appears to have a circular form.


I dunno, its pretty obviously spherical.  Especially as if you are watching from space you can observe it spinning.

Yadda wrote on Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:07am:
But it was just a few centuries ago that it was a popular 'hypothesis' among the common man, AND, among men of science [at that time], that the earth was 'obviously' situated/existed upon a flat plane.


Yup.


With their knowledge at the time, this was a quite rational explanation based on the information they had.






And today, men the common man knows that God does not exist.

Because he, the common man, cannot see God.

.....the God [our creator], who [in scripture] has revealed that he [God] has a different 'form' from men.

And that he, God, exists in a spirit realm, which again, is a 'realm'/reality which is unknowable to our carnal mind/comprehension.



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Reply #14 - Feb 12th, 2015 at 8:24am
 
God DOES exist.

If you don't believe He does, ASK HIM...take that 1st step to genuinely ask Him to make Himself real to you.

There is nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise.

ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT.

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