Amadd wrote on Mar 28^th, 2015 at 10:30pm:

Well, that sounds like you know you are talking shite.

Carry on.

O ye who believe!  Do not take the Jews nor the Christians as your friends and allies. They support only one another [like Western allies of Israel.]

Qur'an 5:51

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/5/51/default.htm

Four reasons Jews worry about Christian Zionists _ and why they don’t have to

Is Christian Zionism good for the Jews? Not every Jew thinks so. In fact, Christian Zionists make many Jews crazy.

Why?

Worry No. 1: Christian Zionists believe all Jews need to be back in the land of Israel before Jesus can return.

Except it’s not true.

. . .

Worry No. 3: Christian Zionists want to convert Jews to Christianity.

Actually, no — conversion is not on their agenda. They believe God has an eternal covenant with the Jewish people.

. . .

Christian Zionists are not going away. Some people estimate there are 75 million evangelicals in the United States. Their churches are bursting at the seams (so maybe God has, in fact, blessed them). Ninety percent of those churchgoers are pro-Israel. They give money to Israel. They visit Israel.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/four-reasons-jews-worry-about-christian-zionists-_-and-why-they-dont-have-to-commentary/2015/03/11/8b2666aa-c81b-11e4-bea5-b893e7ac3fb3_story.html

Could Somebody Please Tell Me The Difference Between Zionism and Routine, Garden Variety Racism?

Zionism is nothing but a Betty Crocker-approved euphemism for bigotry, but if you speak to a Zionist he'll tell you, "That's not true. Jews simply want, and deserve, a Jewish homeland." But isn't that EXACTLY what Hitler said? - "I'm not a bad guy; I simply want an Aryan homeland."  It's the exact same thing, and based on the exact same pretext. No one group of people DESERVE any part of this Earth - which "God" set aside for ALL human beings in general - for themselves, and anyone who says differently, and is willing to kill for it, is a murderous warmonger, and full of crap.  If Jews wanted to return to Israel, or Palestine, they should have simply started immigrating to the region and tried to PEACEFULLY blend in with the indigenous people, not take over. If they had done that, and the indigenous people had been respected and given an incentive to accept them, we wouldn't have much of the hatred that we have in the region today - and before it even gets started, I'm not going to even entertain the argument that I have to buy into allowing Israel to commit murder to prove I don't hate Jews.  This is not about Jews; it's about Zionism, and all Jews are not Zionists..

This is an issue that needs desperately to be addressed, because due to our failure to do so, American troops are dying, the United States treasury is being looted, and the entire world is being placed at risk. So enough with all of the name-calling and accusations. Israel's behavior needs to be scrutinized just like any other country in the world, because ironically, they're doing the EXACT same thing to the Palestinians that Hitler did to them. They've turned Palestine into a concentration camp, and whenever they feel the whim, they drop their ovens from the sky.

http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/could-somebody-please-tell-me-difference-between-zionism-and-routine-garden-variety

While the lobby giant AIPAC wields power in Washington, evangelical Christians have long been the grassroots base of Israel advocacy in the US.

http://electronicintifada.net/content/evangelicals-zionism-increasingly-tough-sell/14357

Soren wrote on Mar 29^th, 2015 at 7:36pm:

Why do you say that? Please exployne.

Aren't there many things that animals can do that humans cannot?
Hasn't' evolution made us the most dominant creature on the planet?
Aren't we still mammals?

Yes the book entitled "The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind" is a bit of a way out theory on first impressions, but a very interesting read just the same. Jeez broaden your thinking a little Soren 

Setanta wrote on Mar 29^th, 2015 at 11:21pm:


In the words of the late Robin Williams

A genetic mutation in our ancient history caused our ancestors to have larger brains than were previously in homonids, which lead to a greater level of intelligence (and our dodgy wisdom teeth).

Besides, who says those things don't have an evolutionary disadvantage?

Quote:




http://8ch.net/pol/res/1562439.html#1580649

Soren wrote on Mar 31^st, 2015 at 6:42pm:


You both misunderstand the process of evolution.  There is no such thing as "highly evolved", only organisms that have adapted best to their environment.

Humans can't survive in conditions that much MUCH simpler organisms thrive in.

Soren wrote on Mar 31^st, 2015 at 6:42pm:


There doesn't need to be an advantage, as long as there is no overall disadvantage to the species.

Soren wrote on Mar 31^st, 2015 at 7:05pm:


You miss my point Soren.

If you were teleported under the ground, a worm would survive when you would not.  The worm would pass on genetic material while the worm would slowly devour yours.  A worm is better adapted to living under the ground in dirt, while you are not.

Levels of evolution is a pretty meaningless discussion, as evolution does not have a goal.