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Really Soren. The facetious point was that if you could ask a dolphin, maybe the dolphin would reply that humans are greedy idiots and are stuffing up the environment in the name of satisfying their animal lust for money and power.

Anyway, there are many creatures that have hardly changed since the prehistoric ages. Are they more highly evolved because they seem to be not in need of evolutionary changes?

I would assume that because of environmental factors over the past few thousand years, humans will undergo a pretty massive evolutionary change given enough time in this current environment.

If I am understanding god's word of making us in his likeness, then this is the way that we have always been (for the past 7000yrs  ) and this is the way that we will remain. That is simply not true.

Stratos wrote on Mar 31^st, 2015 at 7:11pm:


What does, then?

ANd from where does it get its goals?

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 9:30am:


Soren, lets take an example, because I think you are missing the point again. 

Animals with traits that increase its ability to survive and pass on their genetic material are the ones whose lineage will survive.  This is not done deliberately, but usually through a change in circumstance for the animal involved. 

For example, take a rabbit.  If a rabbit lives in a normal climate and is survives just fine then nothing is likely to change (as some animals change very little in millions of years), but if however, the circumstances change then only rabbits that survive will be able to pass on their genetic material.  For instance, if they are forced out of their area and have to survive in colder climates, obviously the ones with better traits for those climates would remain, and the others die. 

If you look at the species Lagomorpha you can see a bunch of separate traits that have carried through in many different environments.

Colder weather would mean ones with thicker fur survive, warmer weather would favour those with better heat regulation, forced changes in diet would mean those that can better process the new food would survive, and an influx of new predators would mean that those that can escape or hide the most effectively would survive.

None of this is intentional, none of the is pre-planned.  If you want to say humans are intelligent, more creative, more aware of things then sure, I would agree.  Saying something is "highly evolved"  is incorrect.

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 12:50pm:


Depends what you mean by complex Soren.  Yeah we are smart, but apart from that the animal world shows it can do many things better than we can. 

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 12:50pm:


All you are demonstrating is you do not understand the process at this point Soren, or are wilfully using incorrect terminology to try and suit yourself.

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 12:50pm:


Who said evolution has no value or purpose?  Who insists that our purposes and values are hollow self-deceptions? 

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 3:06pm:


Of course it does.  Look at any social species, there are huge advantages to groups behaving the same way for the benefit of the group.

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 3:06pm:


There are literally hundreds of unique traits that would benefit almost any species you could attach them on to.  Imagine how much better we could survive if we could change our skin like an octopus, or even silly things like subsist on grass alone like cattle?

For that matter, why aren't more animals practically indestructible like the water bear (aka Tardigrades )?  That little sucker can survive being boiled, can survive at temperatures approaching absolute zero, immense radiation, and somehow can survive for a time in space.  I'm pretty sure those traits would come in handy for any species, but are exceedingly rare.

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 5:45pm:


Better? depends on the situation.

Put us both in the sea with a carnivore, lets see who wins, us or an octopus.

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 5:45pm:


Not like a waterbear you can't.  You do know how cold absolute zero is right?

Soren wrote on Apr 1^st, 2015 at 8:35pm:


Yeah of course.

Still won't survive in many places a waterbear can.  Did I mention it can survive radiation that would kill a person thousands of times over?  Oh, and it can dessicate itself and revive upon water contact after years.

Amazing creatures.

Tufts Prof Thomas Abowd: Jews Colonial Usurpers in Jerusalem

Israel "has built a whole national mythology out of the City of David" in a "weaponization of myth," stated Israel-hating Tufts University professor Thomas Abowd on March 17 at Washington, DC's anti-Israel Jerusalem Fund think tank. Condemnation of "Israeli Colonial Racism" described in a Powerpoint presentation formed his lecture's central theme, which incongruously presented Jews as colonial usurpers in their own ancestral national homeland before an audience of about twenty.

Abowd presented material from his bizarrely titled book, Colonial Jerusalem: The Spatial Construction of Identity and Difference in a City of Myth, 1948–2012. An opening slide of a map depicting "Jerusalem from 1948-1967" portrayed Israeli Jews as imperialists in a Zion where the "new Israeli state occupied the west side, the Jordanian state the east side." Although Hebrew-founded Jerusalem is of central importance to Judaism and has had a restored Jewish plurality/majority since the mid-nineteenth century, he rejected calling Jerusalem Israel's "eternal, immutable capital." Quoting the late anti-Israel charlatan Edward Said, Abowd dismissed this claim as among "representations that exist outside of history." Carrying revisionist history to absurd heights, he speculated during audience questioning that the centrality to Judaism of the Western Wall, a remnant of the Jewish temple destroyed in Jerusalem in 70 A.D., is an "invention of relatively recent construction."

He condemned Israeli destruction of a 700-year old Arab neighborhood (originally founded by Moroccans) facing the Western Wall immediately following Israel's 1967 liberation of Jerusalem from Jordanian control. This clearance—pictured on his book's jacket—facilitated the development of what he cynically called a "religio-national space" in a plaza in front of Judaism's central national and religious shrine. Another of his Powerpoints, however, showed a 1920s photo of Jews praying at the Western Wall while crowded into the narrow alley that ran between the wall and residential buildings. This image demonstrated the difficulties, including Muslim harassment, Jews in the past faced in accessing the Western Wall in a city with numerous overlapping archeological layers of development.

Abowd's criticism of the "Zionist project" extended to the rest of Jerusalem. "Zionist planning circles" have "radically transformed the demographics" of Israel's capital, he claimed, by placing "Jewish settlers" in areas called "neighborhoods," supposedly to create a "friendly little place." The result has been "one of the most segregated cities in the world," more so than Detroit, with "segregated, policed, and surveilled" streets. Abowd failed to mention that communal self-segregation is often the Middle Eastern norm, due in part to Islamic strictures limiting interactions with non-Muslims.

http://www.campus-watch.org/article/id/14688