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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #570 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:57pm Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:53pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 1:03pm: God of the gaps mentality. ? clarification? Well similar in the sense that if you don't understand it and can't be arsed learning about it, it must be God.
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #571 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 2:13pm , Thanks for the clarification!
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #572 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 2:47pm Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 2:13pm: , Thanks for the clarification! My apologies, on re-reading it, it was a bit confusing.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #573 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 3:30pm http://www.project-reason.org/bibleContra_big.pdf
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #574 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 3:51pm LOL, And that's just the list of the remaining contradictions after multiple edits in the name of consistency
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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #575 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 3:56pm Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 3:51pm: LOL, And that's just the list of the remaining contradictions after multiple edits in the name of consistency And you said you were a Christian are you leaving now that you know its all bogus ?
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #576 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:12pm Happy as an atheist here
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #577 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:14pm I am genuinely curious Why, how much of the bible do you believe is literal fact?
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LifeOrDeath Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1548	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #578 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:16pm Pho Huc wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:14pm: I am genuinely curios Why, how much of the bible do you believe is literal fact? Well Karnal it was I that actually asked you a question just in case you forgot.
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #579 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:30pm oh, In that case please quote the post where you asked me that and i shall respond.
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Pho Huc Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 985 Victoria Gender:	Re: God Does Not Exist. End of Story.... Reply #580 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:30pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:12pm: Happy as an atheist here Noone like a smartarse
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Reply #581 - Aug 7^th, 2015 at 4:44pm

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Both are choosing their destination by what they do

You really don't understand what they believe. If you want to discuss this properly that's fine, but you clearly have not done enough to understand their beliefs.

If you take the time to look at what they do, you would realise this view is not only incorrect, but the exact opposite of what a Calvinist believes.

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #582 - Aug 9^th, 2015 at 3:07pm

A story by the sci-fi writer Arthur C Clarke (2001 - A Space Odyssey).

An inter-stellar ship in the future comes across a dead star, gone supernova, and a far outlying planet.
They are drawn to a source of radioactive energy on this planet and find that it is a vast kind of museum, built by the inhabitants to survive the death of their sun which they knew was coming. It contains a record of the civilisation which existed there, a civilisation which had achieved space travel within their star system but not inter-stellar travel.

Clarke finishes the story by discussing the number of stars which have died and continue to die just in our galaxy, and how often it is likely that life & advanced civilisations have flourished and been destroyed in exactly the same way.
And he asks, what kind of creator would repeat this process over & over and for what purpose.

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Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.

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Reply #583 - Aug 9^th, 2015 at 8:18pm

Soren wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 10:05am:

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 9:50pm:

Oh, please correct me then!

What is the mechanism that allows those without faith in Alllah/God/Jehovah to ascend after death?

This is the passage I base my statement on.

John 3:16-18

For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Those who believe in him are not condemned; but those who do not believe are condemned already, because they have not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

You cannot believe or not believe in something you have never heard of. You have to first know about something before you believe it or not believe it.

That is a heck of a generalisation, and it doesn't make sense. If you don't know about something, you don't believe in it in a passive sense.

Do you believe that there is a sessile terebratulid living in the trap of the wash basin in your bathroom?

The answer would be "no" by default even if you don't know what a terebratulid is, because there is no evidence to believe it.

You don't believe in invisible monsters waiting to trip you up whenever you walk, so you walk without pausing at every step in fear of them. Again, passive disbeliefs of this type are essential for normal living, just as beliefs are.

Reality as we experience it, is at best an approximation.

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Reply #584 - Aug 9^th, 2015 at 8:25pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 9^th, 2015 at 3:07pm:

A story by the sci-fi writer Arthur C Clarke (2001 - A Space Odyssey).

An inter-stellar ship in the future comes across a dead star, gone supernova, and a far outlying planet.
They are drawn to a source of radioactive energy on this planet and find that it is a vast kind of museum, built by the inhabitants to survive the death of their sun which they knew was coming. It contains a record of the civilisation which existed there, a civilisation which had achieved space travel within their star system but not inter-stellar travel.

Clarke finishes the story by discussing the number of stars which have died and continue to die just in our galaxy, and how often it is likely that life & advanced civilisations have flourished and been destroyed in exactly the same way.
And he asks, what kind of creator would repeat this process over & over and for what purpose.

Electromagnetic propulsion or the RF resonant cavity thruster is our best hope for escaping such an end. It is being worked on as we speak.

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