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Feb 13th, 2015 at 6:34am
 
This will be a interesting case.


Anti-halal campaigner sued over claims Islamic certification supports terrorism


A prominent anti-halal campaigner and the “Islam-critical” Q Society are being sued for defamation over their claims the Islamic certification industry is corrupt and funds “the push for sharia law in Australia”.

Mohammed El-Mouelhy, the head of one of Australia’s largest certifiers, Halal Certification Authority, began proceedings in the New South Wales supreme court last month against senior members of the Melbourne-based Q Society and Kirralie Smith, who runs the website HalalChoices.

The statement of claim alleges that two videos featuring Smith, one recorded at a Q Society event, portray El-Mouelhy as “part of a conspiracy to destroy Western civilisation from within” and “reasonably suspected of providing financial support to terrorist organisations”.

He also claims that Smith alleges in one of the videos that El Mouelhy once accepted the fee to certify a company without carrying out an inspection and that he conducts his business in a “dishonest manner”.

El Mouelhy is named in both videos and Smith makes specific allegations about his conduct. His company’s logo flashes on screen in the first clip, a slick 32-minute explainer of Smith’s concerns with halal certification that has been viewed more than 60,000 times.

The landmark case could have implications for the anti-halal movement in Australia, which briefly became prominent last November when a South Australian dairy company came under pressure from anti-halal activists and ditched its Islamic certification – at the cost of a $50,000 contract.

Smith’s website, which outlines her concerns with halal certification and provides lists of certified products, is a lightning rod for the movement, which despite an active online presence has done little to persuade major food manufacturers to forgo halal fees.
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The halal food industry is worth about $2.3tn worldwide and halal exports account for about two-thirds of Australia’s $10bn food export market.

The Australian Crime Commission, which last year completed an investigation into money laundering in Australia, has said it is “not aware of any direct links” between the industry and violent extremist groups.

The Q Society organised for Dutch firebrand MP Geert Wilders to tour Australia in 2013 and regularly holds events warning of the “Islamisation” of Australian society. It has links to the Reverend Fred Nile’s Christian Democratic party.

Q Society board members Debbie Robinson, Peter Callaghan and Ralf Schumann are also named in the suit, as is YouTube, which hosts the two videos.

El Mouelhy, who has run his Halal Certification Authority for more than two decades, said he brought the action because his integrity had been attacked.

“I don’t like anybody to malign me, I’m an honest person and I don’t see why anybody should say these things,” he said.

Robinson declined to comment, citing legal advice. Smith also did not comment on the case, but told Guardian Australia her website “is about providing information to consumers so they can make a choice”.

A directions hearing in the defamation case is scheduled for 20 February.

Late on Tuesday the independent senator Jacqui Lambie threatened to introduce a private senator’s bill to stop what she believes is “halal money” funding Islamic State.

Addressing the upper house Lambie questioned whether halal certification funded militants in Syria and Iraq. She said she was prompted to look into the issue after receiving hundreds of emails from concerned residents.

A study the Tasmanian senator commissioned from the parliamentary library exposed some “surprising facts” that alarmed her.

Certifiers were not legally required to disclose their fees, nor was there a formal reporting or auditing system to ascertain whether funds were being misused, she said.

“Given that our enemies in Islamic State are receiving a steady cashflow to control their caliphate in Syria and Iraq, why isn’t there a legal requirement in Australia for halal certification fees to be disclosed?” Lambie said.

Lambie said if the government failed to answer her questions, she would introduce legislation to close such “legal loopholes”.
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Reply #1 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:26am
 
I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.
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Reply #2 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:29am
 
This what we get for letting them mix religion up with the food we eat.
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Reply #3 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:41am
 
If the defendant is forced to pay damages, I wonder if this cost will be cited as the "cost" of halal certification - like it was when McDonalds was forced pay compensation for falsely labelling some of its food as halal?
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Reply #4 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:44am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:41am:
If the defendant is forced to pay damages, I wonder if this cost will be cited as the "cost" of halal certification - like it was when McDonalds was forced pay compensation for falsely labelling some of its food as halal?
Considering that the person being sued is just a campaigner I doubt very  much money will be going halal's way. You can't get blood from a stone so they say.

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Reply #5 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:16pm
 
I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.
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Reply #6 - Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:59pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:26am:
I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.


Whats that ?

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.........the Malik Fahd School.....


more islamic attempts at refusing our society ?

beheadings, corruption ....... ??
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:05pm
 
rhino wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.


Or how many animals weren't tortured and slaughtered in such a barbaric, brutal and cruel way in the traditions of 8th century middle eastern culture.
So much for "Animal Rights" nowadays.
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Reply #8 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:21pm
 
It won't be hard to prove the money is used to support terrorism. It has been done before. This will be great, its about time the world sees these grubs peddling halal certification for what they are in a court of law.
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Reply #9 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:24pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:26am:
I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.


Gandalf do you feel compelled to defend these people because they are Muslims and must therefor be honest operators?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malek_Fahd_Islamic_School

In 2008 Malek Fahd Islamic School was criticised for not allowing under performing students to sit the Higher School Certificate (HSC), resulting in unfairly high HSC results reported for the school. The school denied distorting exam results.[9]

In 2010 the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils received $5.2 million from Malek Fahd Islamic School which is approximately one third of the money received from the federal and state governments.[10] In 2012 the NSW government demanded the repayment of $9 million passed from Malek Fahd Islamic School to the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.[11][12]

In November 2013 the school faced closure due to problems associated with its attendance-approvals, its HSC curriculum, educational quality, safe environment and its buildings.[2][11] In December 2013 the school won a reprieve,[5] with the NSW Board of Studies agreeing to a further year of registration.[13]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Federation_of_Islamic_Councils

The AFIC is one of Australia's top four[6] halal accreditation certifiers[7] with AFIC having strict rules with regards to Islamic slaughter for animals[8] and for chickens.[9] It is reported that AFIC earns up to $1 million a year from this halal certification.

Any local organisation promoting the Islamisation of Australia is trying to undermine our society from within.
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Reply #10 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:25pm
 
rhino wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.


The problem is companies like Cadbury's do it so their sales in middle easturd countries are not harmed. Its is basic greed on both sides.

As a non muslim nation we suffer because of companies like Cadbury's greed in middle easturd nations. They only see musseys as a quick buck se we pay more if you buy from them that is.

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Reply #11 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 6:11pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 11:26am:
I heard FD will be called in as a witness for the defense. I believe his argument is going to be "can you think of any other way the money will be used" and "its common sense to those who can think for themselves" - along with constant reminders about the unrelated case of the Malik Fahd School.


Unfortunately freediver is not part of it,who is going to be bothered going through his posts.

COURT DATE SET FOR LEGAL ACTION
AGAINST AUSTRALIAN ANTI-HALAL LEADERS

A damages claim has been scheduled to be heard in the Supreme Court of New South Wales next month.

PLAINTIFF: Mohamed El-MOUELHY

DEFENDANTS:
Q Society Australia Inc
Kirralie Jane Smith
Peter Domenic Callaghan
Debbie Robinson
Ralph Schumann
You Tube LLC

A Directions Hearing is scheduled for 9:30 on Friday 20/02/15
Court Reference Number: 2014/377391

(Details provided by the Plaintiff)

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Reply #12 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 7:16pm
 
What would you like to see me sued for Wally? Disagreeing with you?
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SweetLambo wrote on Feb 14th, 2015 at 2:25pm:
rhino wrote on Feb 13th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
I wonder how much cheaper our food would be if we all werent forced to go the halal way.


The problem is companies like Cadbury's do it so their sales in middle easturd countries are not harmed. Its is basic greed on both sides.

As a non muslim nation we suffer because of companies like Cadbury's greed in middle easturd nations. They only see musseys as a quick buck se we pay more if you buy from them that is.




You'll notice that in the supermarkets over here shoppers are spurning their product because of this Halal business, and Cadbury have reduced the price of their products significantly. In fact if my wife buys chocolate she refuses to buy Cadburys. If enough people refuse to buy Halal products, sooner or later the manufacturers will stop the practice, eventhough some won't display that little sign on their product, confirmation that they are Halal can easily be sourced on the Internet.

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Reply #14 - Feb 14th, 2015 at 7:42pm
 
yes they are, I noticed a halal butcher recently in a very busy location with hardly any customers, the non halal butchers near him were doing a roaring trade, he wasnt looking happy at all, there is an enormous backlash within the general community now towards anything Muslim or connected in peoples minds with Islam in general. I think the government should force manufacturers to put the halal certification mark on all products deemed so. I didnt know about Cadburys.
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