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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #30 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:46pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

"Quotes" Adam?

From which Islamophobic website? Cheesy

So even the truth is islamophobic now?

Is it true? We can't tell 'cause we don't know if or how it's been distorted or not.

Provide the link(s) or bugger off you Troll. Grin

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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #31 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 7:17pm

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

"Quotes" Adam?

From which Islamophobic website? Cheesy

So even the truth is islamophobic now?

Is it true? We can't tell 'cause we don't know if or how it's been distorted or not.

Provide the link(s) or bugger off you Troll.

You cant "KNOW" because your lies are dictated to you!!!!!! Roll Eyes

Where is your link that shows your Romanophobia? Roll Eyes

You can bugger off if you like! Roll Eyes

In fact please do so, you racist bigot troll. Grin

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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #32 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:20pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

Rebuttal of Wally's pseudo science.

Dr. Tejatet Tejasen and Dr. T.V.N. Persaud were born into the indoctrination of Islam, therefore they have to believe in. They have NO free will in the matter. Evidence is totally ridiculed.

Dr. Maurice Bucaille never became a muslim how can muslims claim he did?

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Known fact: The Muslim man whom I met in Tunisia in 1977, and who introduced me to Bucaille's book, told me that in 1976 Bucaille came and gave a lecture in Sousse, Tunisia. After the lecture my friend went up and asked him whether he had become a Muslim. Dr. Bucaille answered, "No."

Second known fact: At a public lecture in Fez Morocco in either 1981 or 1983, a friend of mine asked during the question period whether Dr. Bucaille had become a Muslim. Again Dr. Bucaille said, "No."

I sent Dr. Bucaille a copy of my book and I wrote him about various points three times, but he has never answered. A Catholic journal made a positive review of my book. Bucaille responded but his comments showed that he had not read my book carefully. In one instance his criticism was answered just a few pages after the page he quoted.

"I have no knowledge as to whether he has become a Muslim since 1981, but I doubt it " William F. Campbell M.D.

He was also ridiculed by his peers!

Argument discounted as lies!

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson stated "some comments that sound "silly and embarrassing" taken out of context"

More lies for Islam, by muslims to benefit islam.

The best ridicule is saved for last.

Dr. Marshall Johnson and all the others, forgot about an extraordinary man called Galen. A Roman Doctor of some repute. He explained 420 years before Muhammad was born the formation of the Foetus.

This would equate to around 620 years for the information to reach the ears of the Koran writers. Just in time for a lot of Plagiarism in FACT.

1. Geniture - an unformed white conceptus like semen (similar to nutfah)

2. A bloody vascularised foetus with brain, liver and heart (similar to alaqa)

3. Other features were mapped out but unformed (similar to mudghah)

4. Puer - all the organs were well formed and joints were freely moveable.

Source: Corpus Medicorum Graecorum: Galeni de Semine (Galen: On Semen) (English trans. Phillip de Lacy, Akademic Verlag, 1992) section I:9:1-10 pp. 92-95

Why don't your take your crap to the mosque, and leave it there! Cheesy

Where did you rebutt me?

I dont even understand the rubbish you posted.

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot Reply #33 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:33pm wally1 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:20pm: Where did you rebutt me On EVERY POINT!!!!! wally1 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:20pm: I dont even understand I knew it would tax a muslim. They seldom do understand the TRUTH! Get an EDUCATED muslim to explain it to you, if you can find one?
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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #34 - Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm

wally1 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Really?

Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood
present in the embryo.
The Developing Human
Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.

http://i.imgur.com/Y0Ino5O.jpg

Also, the word used in Arabic is 'alaqah' which has more than one meaning. One of its meaning is 'thing that clings'. If you consider that in early stages of embryonic development, the fertilised egg takes on the appearance of a clot of blood and also attaches itself (clings) to the uterine wall then alaqah is a amazingly apt description of what a feotus is formed out of.

I would be surprised if any better descriptions of human embryonic development existed 1400 years ago.

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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #35 - Feb 19^th, 2015 at 11:03pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Really?

Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood
present in the embryo.
The Developing Human
Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.

http://i.imgur.com/Y0Ino5O.jpg

Also, the word used in Arabic is 'alaqah' which has more than one meaning. One of its meaning is 'thing that clings'. If you consider that in early stages of embryonic development, the fertilised egg takes on the appearance of a clot of blood and also attaches itself (clings) to the uterine wall then alaqah is a amazingly apt description of what a feotus is formed out of.

I would be surprised if any better descriptions of human embryonic development existed 1400 years ago.

Maybe allah being a god was really just some dude trying to wing it as a god which is the whole point I guess.

Maybe its just all a misunderstanding and we have it all wrong. Grin

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot Reply #36 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 10:59am SweetLambo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 11:03pm: Maybe its just all a misunderstanding and we have it all wrong. It cant be wrong, Mo said Allah said it. Oh God is that hearsay?
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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #37 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 11:39am

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Really?

Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood
present in the embryo.
The Developing Human
Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.

http://i.imgur.com/Y0Ino5O.jpg

Also, the word used in Arabic is 'alaqah' which has more than one meaning. One of its meaning is 'thing that clings'. If you consider that in early stages of embryonic development, the fertilised egg takes on the appearance of a clot of blood and also attaches itself (clings) to the uterine wall then alaqah is a amazingly apt description of what a feotus is formed out of.

I would be surprised if any better descriptions of human embryonic development existed 1400 years ago.

Mohammed copied what Galen wrote about embryos, they were both wrong.

How does sperm turn into a blood clot?

Julius can you cite any Islamic verse that even mentions the egg?

Dr Keith Moore said his comments were taken out of context,Osama Bin Laden gets a mention in his book.
A thread on Dr Moore saying his comments were taken out of context here-
councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=14514.0

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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #38 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 1:11pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 20^th, 2015 at 10:59am:

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2015 at 11:03pm:

Maybe its just all a misunderstanding and we have it all wrong.

It cant be wrong, Mo said Allah said it.

Yadda said.....
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How ISLAMIC 'logic' works....

Moslems will declare;

"Mohammed was a prophet of God."

Q. Who said so?

A. Well, God told Mohammed. And then Mohammed told us. [....and that is how we moslems got the Koran too, ....straight from Allah!]

Q. Why should we believe what Mohammed said to us?

A. Because Mohammed was a prophet of God, silly.

Debating moslems, is a 'debate' in circular reasoning.

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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #39 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 2:30pm

Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 7:17pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:46pm:

Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:44pm:

|dev|null wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 3:39pm:

"Quotes" Adam?

From which Islamophobic website? Cheesy

So even the truth is islamophobic now?

Is it true? We can't tell 'cause we don't know if or how it's been distorted or not.

Provide the link(s) or bugger off you Troll.

You cant "KNOW" because your lies are dictated to you!!!!!! Roll Eyes

Where is your link that shows your Romanophobia? Roll Eyes

You can bugger off if you like! Roll Eyes

In fact please do so, you racist bigot troll. Grin

No racism in my posts. Unless of course you really are a Troll? Grin

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42269	Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot Reply #40 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 6:17pm Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:33pm: wally1 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:20pm: Where did you rebutt me On EVERY POINT!!!!! You did?
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Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot
Reply #41 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 9:44pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 10:17pm:

wally1 wrote on Feb 13^th, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Really?

Diagram of the primitive cardiovascular system in an embryo during the alaqah stage. The external appearance of the embryo and its sacs is similar to that of a blood clot, due to the presence of relatively large amounts of blood
present in the embryo.
The Developing Human
Moore, 5th ed., p. 65.

http://i.imgur.com/Y0Ino5O.jpg

Also, the word used in Arabic is 'alaqah' which has more than one meaning. One of its meaning is 'thing that clings'. If you consider that in early stages of embryonic development, the fertilised egg takes on the appearance of a clot of blood and also attaches itself (clings) to the uterine wall then alaqah is a amazingly apt description of what a feotus is formed out of.

I would be surprised if any better descriptions of human embryonic development existed 1400 years ago.

That is not the point, my thick little Mohammedan.

The point is - why would the Creator make such a stupid mistake and inspire his illiterate servant to recite? Remember, this is not 1400 years ago, this is eternal, unchangeable stuff. It is a blood cot now, then, and in a million years back and a million years hence.

The Koran is not a historically situated (and therefore revisable, criticisable, mutable) text. It is eternal. What the Koran says is not the view of humanity or Araby 1400 years ago. It is eternal. But you are too stupid to understand anything, you are only good enough to bleat and nod with the other fervent believers.

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot Reply #42 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 9:50pm Allah is autistic or simply doesn't exists and is a myth. Everyone knows the answer hence the anger and breast beating from the local cult.
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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1892 Brisbane	Re: Quran Author says Humans Created from a Blood Clot Reply #43 - Feb 20^th, 2015 at 10:17pm Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20^th, 2015 at 6:17pm: Adamant wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:33pm: wally1 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2015 at 8:20pm: Where did you rebutt me On EVERY POINT!!!!! You did? Yes, and I repeat it.
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