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Reply #75 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:56am

Aussie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:50am:

mantra wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:19am:

Aussie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:06am:

Read it, and you will see. It was not a random thing. I am not saying publicly who or who did not provide me with the details. I don't betray confidences either.

I think you do betray people's confidences - simply because whoever passed this information on to you probably didn't expect you to splatter it all over this board. You've betrayed their confidence. This means that your informant won't get a second chance and more members will be excluded from PA because of this. You would also do the same if you were an admin or moderator over there.

My account was hacked when you were admin at PA. It's been hacked here. Skippy's was hacked here too. Hacking happens on these boards, but when you start dragging other people into your problems - it causes dissension and suspicion is plonked on innocent people also.

1. No confidence has been or will be betrayed. It is as simple as that.

2. This is the first time (covering a period well in excess of ten years) anyone has tried to stuff around with/get access to/hack my password, and I want it looked into, just like you did when you believed someone had been tampering with your account. My situation is a little different in that I am able to produce the evidence (the email) in support of my concern.

3. I have no idea if freediver can establish who was responsible, but if he can, then I'd anticipate that person would be given a very long vacation from here.

4. The air would be cleared if the person who tried to get at my password accepted responsibility for it, rather than allow others to be suspected.

and if the person that has been feeding you information from PA is discovered and banned for life... I guess that doesnt matter..

you can keep telling yourself you havent outed anyone.... when in fact you have....

I am beginning to agree with SN you are a drama queen and want all the attention.....

this is not a thread about hacking its a thread about WHO did it.. and I do believe by now fd is aware of that little detail....

you want some GONE...then the hacking wont matter at all...very shallow..

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Reply #76 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:03am

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Aussie has NEVER betrayed a confidence- no matter how you spin it- that has never happened. The problem is as I see it- he was banned from PA for no reason- none- but unless you had been banned permanently you wouldnt understand. Its not just a few months. In that place you all discuss him knowing he has no right of reply- it doesnt worry me- I know you all talk about me - my attitude is "how bored are they- who cares"? Some dont see it that way. So if Aussie has an informant , then so what-? If you ban him and then continue to discredit him behind closed doors then expect this- thats how I see it. Skippy has shut the place down because he banned 3 pp who have been members there forever- he is a very bad admin and takes the easiest no brainer option because he has no brains- He has caused this problem. There is no need to impose permanent bans on pp- it shows no imagination no courage, you may as well have put IQ in charge.

YOU ALL KNOW BETTER than to discuss a person who is banned.. if you do and give no right of reply- this happens and you just have to put up with it- until you all learn to respect the rights of other pp. Angry

LEARN!!!!

of course thats true AG.. banning for life is not good and I agree not right.. so much for freedom of speech.. Roll Eyes

and it give those with a smiggin of power the right to do horrible nasty things...out of spite...not good..

and what happens when that happens.. REVENGE raises its ugly head.....its supposed to be sweet.. usually isnt.. Roll Eyes

aussie has stated he wants the person responsible sent on a longgggggggg holiday...and wont be satisfied with anything less...

come on AG... two wrongs dont make a right...and maybe just maybe aussie is wrong...just because someone writes an angry post...doesnt mean they did the crime...it could have been just coincidence....

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Reply #77 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:06am

It doesnt matter if he is drama queening or not he has a point and a much broader point that no one is willing to talk about-- Super Nova is one the most nasty trolls you have ever met--you dont really know these pp Cods- I do. One there whom I used to dislike intensley is AiA- I have seen a different side to him lately and I have changed my mind - maybe. Super Nova is a troublemaker.

The thing that makes me laugh is - the 3 most vibrant pp there have been banned andnow the 4 residents left are so bored they live here. Skippy what is the point- your own forum is now so boring noone wants to be there anymore-under your watch ha ha.

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Reply #78 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:14am

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and if the person that has been feeding you information from PA is discovered and banned for life... I guess that doesnt matter..

you can keep telling yourself you havent outed anyone.... when in fact you have....

I am beginning to agree with SN you are a drama queen and want all the attention.....

this is not a thread about hacking its a thread about WHO did it.. and I do believe by now fd is aware of that little detail....

you want some GONE...then the hacking wont matter at all...very shallow..

You have obviously completely missed the point. We all know there was an attempt to hack. Of course I want the person responsible for an attempted invasion of my account (if they had succeeded, they would have had complete control ~ I would have zero access) discovered (if that is possible) and dealt with ~ they would see all details in my profile and have full access to PMs etc, and would happily post away as 'Aussie.'

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Reply #79 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:33am

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Aussie has NEVER betrayed a confidence- no matter how you spin it- that has never happened. The problem is as I see it- he was banned from PA for no reason- none- but unless you had been banned permanently you wouldnt understand. Its not just a few months. In that place you all discuss him knowing he has no right of reply- it doesnt worry me- I know you all talk about me - my attitude is "how bored are they- who cares"? Some dont see it that way. So if Aussie has an informant , then so what-? If you ban him and then continue to discredit him behind closed doors then expect this- thats how I see it.

Skippy has shut the place down because he banned 3 pp who have been members there forever- he is a very bad admin and takes the easiest no brainer option because he has no brains- He has caused this problem. There is no need to impose permanent bans on pp- it shows no imagination no courage, you may as well have put IQ in charge.

YOU ALL KNOW BETTER than to discuss a person who is banned.. if you do and give no right of reply- this happens and you just have to put up with it- until you all learn to respect the rights of other pp. Angry

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Reply #80 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:42am

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

I am beginning to agree with SN you are a drama queen and want all the attention.....

this is not a thread about hacking its a thread about WHO did it.. and I do believe by now fd is aware of that little detail....

you want some GONE...then the hacking wont matter at all...very shallow..

As soon as Aussie disclosed that information I knew that some members would fall under suspicion. He obviously doesn't care how many people get caught up in this web of viciousness and it's simply because he's angry that he was banned permanently. I don't agree with the ban, but I don't make the rules over there.

Anyway Cods - thanks for the back up.

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Aussie has NEVER betrayed a confidence- no matter how you spin it- that has never happened

You are wrong AG. Aussie knows that a while back when I ran some thoughts by him - they turned up as fact on another forum posted by him. It only takes one slip up from a member and I won't discuss anything controversial with them ever again. Whoever informed Aussie this time around was betrayed by him, but he's pretending that he's protecting them by letting a few of us get the blame for this.

The thread was a nothing thread - just some of the members letting off steam. There are more volatile threads here than over at PA these days.

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Reply #81 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:55am

mantra wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:42am:

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:56am:

I am beginning to agree with SN you are a drama queen and want all the attention.....

this is not a thread about hacking its a thread about WHO did it.. and I do believe by now fd is aware of that little detail....

you want some GONE...then the hacking wont matter at all...very shallow..

As soon as Aussie disclosed that information I knew that some members would fall under suspicion. He obviously doesn't care how many people get caught up in this web of viciousness and it's simply because he's angry that he was banned permanently. I don't agree with the ban, but I don't make the rules over there.

Anyway Cods - thanks for the back up.

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 10:53am:

Aussie has NEVER betrayed a confidence- no matter how you spin it- that has never happened

You are wrong AG. Aussie knows that a while back when I ran some thoughts by him - they turned up as fact on another forum posted by him. It only takes one slip up from a member and I won't discuss anything controversial with them ever again. Whoever informed Aussie this time around was betrayed by him, but he's pretending that he's protecting them by letting a few of us get the blame for this.

The thread was a nothing thread - just some of the members letting off steam. There are more volatile threads here than over at PA these days.

You were all discussing a banned member who had no right of reply-- wrong wrong wrong...you are not the informant, i know you well enough to know that.

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Reply #82 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 12:13pm

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

You were all discussing a banned member who had no right of reply-- wrong wrong wrong...you are not the informant, i know you well enough to know that.

I didn't participate in bad mouthing Aussie - I never do. If I've got something to say to him - I do it one on one.

Thanks for that last comment - it's appreciated.

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Reply #83 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 12:47pm

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and if the person that has been feeding you information from PA is discovered and banned for life... I guess that doesnt matter..

you can keep telling yourself you havent outed anyone.... when in fact you have....

I am beginning to agree with SN you are a drama queen and want all the attention.....

this is not a thread about hacking its a thread about WHO did it.. and I do believe by now fd is aware of that little detail....

you want some GONE...then the hacking wont matter at all...very shallow..

You have obviously completely missed the point. We all know there was an attempt to hack. Of course I want the person responsible for an attempted invasion of my account (if they had succeeded, they would have had complete control ~ I would have zero access) discovered (if that is possible) and dealt with ~ they would see all details in my profile and have full access to PMs etc, and would happily post away as 'Aussie.'

then take it directly to FD ot the POLICE>. you seem beside yourself with this..why bring it on here and make [sly] accusations about whom you believe did it...

this is what I am on about.. if the CRIME is as big as you are making it to seem.. then the forum is hardly the place for it.. if someone tried to break into your house and you thought it was someone from here.. would you not take it to the right people..

you got a message.. had you not ,got that message you would be none the wiser.. take it up with those who sent the message... if you didnt have an informer from PA..you would have no reason to point your finger......its a afact someone gets banned.. [for life] from here they are annoyed you were annoyed so was geo and so was ag when it happened to you and you said so on here....you each had your opinion as to who did it and why..... its the way of human nature...so expect the same thing to happen over there.. they could have blamed me for all I know...they do talk about me... wow fame is so brief...good luck to them I am important enough.....

theres an old sayin aussie what the eyes dont see the heart doesnt grieve over...tell your informer you prefer to not know what others are saying about you behind your back..sticks and stones....

sorry ag.. but everyone has a different opinion as to whom is good and who is bad..you claim you 3 were the brightest stars and thats great... but not everyone sees it that way...and sadly thats the way life is...in your case those who didnt see it your way.. thought the opposite... I dont agree with what they did.. but I am not in POWER....but I dont think that should give aussie the right to smear all and sundry from the forum........and that is what he has done...I know it isnt mantra and I certainly hope everyone thinks the same... but even she would think someone would blame her.........and thats WRONG>...and instead of aussie apologising he claims he has every right as he is convinced the hacking is a crime scene and he wants revenge.no matter at whos expense.. Angry

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Reply #84 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 12:54pm

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

You were all discussing a banned member who had no right of reply-- wrong wrong wrong..

why is it wrong wrong wrong... isnt that whats happening right here....this is a silly mad forum where no one knows anything about reality.. they know what they are told.. or think they are told..

if you take it to heart anything and everything... then you should not be here....people claim I am a drunk...and I dont even drink..its what they like to spread and I cant do anything about what people choose to believe...

if someone doesnt like you... suck it up move on have as little to do with them as possible..if people talk about you in private messages.... what the heck what can you do NOTHING.. so why worry about what is said on another forum.....

unless you are doing your best to get rid of them...from said forums....in which case is just as bad as the people you are complaining about....in my op.

and thats spite.. nothing else.... and in this case these accusations have spread a large shadow over other peoples integrity....

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Reply #85 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 1:06pm

No cods, once again you have missed the point. Revenge has zero to do with it. People from elsewhere are in a direct position to assist in providing information which, when put together with whatever the software here indicates, might allow freediver to accurately identify who tried to access my password (and if they had succeeded, they would have had complete control of the 'Aussie' account.)

Did you not notice how many times, and for how long, people from elsewhere did everything but answer my question which was quite simple ~ "at about the time Neferti would have become aware of her ban here, did anyone over there make a post or start a Thread about anyone being dead meat?"

(I knew the answer was, yeas. Neferti commenced a Thread titled 'Aussie is dead meat,' and then proceeded, in her opening posts, to explain that I was 'dead meat' because she had been banned from here, and I had done that. The Thread had about 6/7 pages when Super Nova - a Mod there - tried to hide it but thought that in his attempt to do so, he may have unintentionally deleted it altogether. Gee, I wonder why he wanted to hide it cods. Do you?)

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Reply #86 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 1:07pm

cods wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 12:54pm:

The Mole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 11:55am:

You were all discussing a banned member who had no right of reply-- wrong wrong wrong..

why is it wrong wrong wrong... isnt that whats happening right here....this is a silly mad forum where no one knows anything about reality.. they know what they are told.. or think they are told..

Yes very true and its wrong because when someone is banned and they know and are told pp are saying nasty crap behind their backs- it encourages duplicitous behaviour because they have no right of reply- if someone is banned- that should be enough, why pick over the bones behind their backs ? if this is happening to Nef now she is just getting a bit of her own.

if you take it to heart anything and everything... then you should not be here....people claim I am a drunk...and I dont even drink..its what they like to spread and I cant do anything about what people choose to believe...

They used to say i drink too- its just a troll- ignore

if someone doesnt like you... suck it up move on have as little to do with them as possible..if people talk about you in private messages.... what the heck what can you do NOTHING.. so why worry about what is said on another forum.....

Interforum trolling has gone on forever

unless you are doing your best to get rid of them...from said forums....in which case is just as bad as the people you are complaining about....in my op.

and thats spite.. nothing else.... and in this case these accusations have spread a large shadow over other peoples integrity....

I could count but 3 pp between these boards who possess that rare thing you call integrity

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Reply #88 - Feb 17^th, 2015 at 4:47pm

Aussie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2015 at 1:06pm:

No cods, once again you have missed the point. Revenge has zero to do with it. People from elsewhere are in a direct position to assist in providing information which, when put together with whatever the software here indicates, might allow freediver to accurately identify who tried to access my password (and if they had succeeded, they would have had complete control of the 'Aussie' account.)

Did you not notice how many times, and for how long, people from elsewhere did everything but answer my question which was quite simple ~ "at about the time Neferti would have become aware of her ban here, did anyone over there make a post or start a Thread about anyone being dead meat?"

(I knew the answer was, yeas. Neferti commenced a Thread titled 'Aussie is dead meat,' and then proceeded, in her opening posts, to explain that I was 'dead meat' because she had been banned from here, and I had done that. The Thread had about 6/7 pages when Super Nova - a Mod there - tried to hide it but thought that in his attempt to do so, he may have unintentionally deleted it altogether. Gee, I wonder why he wanted to hide it cods. Do you?)

no aussie I am not missing the point......IF thats the word IF they had hacked your password......but they didnt...

BUT .. as you want an answer and or something done about it..

YOU SHOULD in my OPINION have contacted FD and left it with him...

as you have pointed out .. he is the one that can do something about it...

BUT NO you put it on here... and even went to the extreme of naming names... Roll Eyes

you then demand answers to questions

YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TOO...

as per above you admit you have the details of a dead meat thread.. you even know how many pages and dates...even who posted on it...

why the need to have someone ADMIT it on here????...

you have no proof that same person tried to hack your password.. none whatever.....

you want the person exposed...

and although you cannot get revenge by answering said thread by said person.. you will none the less make sure everyone gets exposed to what she said........one way or an other...

you cannot complain about what she said on another forum.when you are doing the same thing... she has n o right of reply here to your accusations...which are kind of wild....but damaging...all the same...

I am sorry aussie you can see everyone elses faults... but not your own....

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