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Reply #45 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 2:10pm

freediver wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2015 at 7:59pm:

Nice of them to throw the Islamophobia bit into their chant, just to show they are not doing this out of self interest.

Bingo.

Of course it wasn't out of multicultural altruistic motives. Islam demands of its congregation that they seek eventual ascendancy over other religions and political systems ... through both the House of Peace and the House of War.

Mosques are unique in that they are institutional academies for the promotion of theocratic dictatorship. It is contrary to Islamic doctrine that one should advocate for democracy and the separation of religion and state.

If we are to 'Beware of Greeks bearing gifts' ~ then doubly so must we question the motives of Muslims seeming to act as Human Shields to protect Jews from their more excitable brethren.

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Reply #46 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 2:22pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 1:49pm:

I made up no bullshit story

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Perhaps Brevik chose the wrong day,there was a boycott Israel and gaza flotilla party the day before the massacre,Fatah youth had been using that Island as a holiday camp for over 15 years.

(hint: relevant part highlighted)

Do you stand by your suggestion that Breivik "chose the wrong day" Baron?

Do you think his real target was a foreign terrorist camp?

Yes or no will suffice.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #47 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 6:58pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:54pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 12:47pm:

So after a long series of Islamic terror attacks in Europe and elsewhere, including recently the Kosher supermarket and synagog, Muslims surround a synagog to show their support. But instead of chanting "no to terrorism" they chant "no to Islamophobia".

After an attack on a synagogue they chant "no to antisemitism" - that little detail slip your mind FD?

I'm not aware of any attacks carried out by the Norwegian muslim community.

No Gandalf. If they had left it there, it would not have looked so stupid. Instead they attempted to claim victimhood status on behalf of Islam in response to Muslims killing Jews in the name of Islam. They took what could have actually been a great gesture and mangled it as only Muslims can.

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Reply #48 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:27pm

freediver wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 6:58pm:

They took what could have actually been a great gesture and mangled it as only Muslims can.

At least be honest FD - you are incapable of acknowledging any "great gestures" from the muslim community. The fact is you were dishonest by pretending that they only said no to islamophobia:

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So after a long series of Islamic terror attacks in Europe and elsewhere, including recently the Kosher supermarket and synagog, Muslims surround a synagog to show their support. But instead of chanting "no to terrorism" they chant "no to Islamophobia.

Is saying "no to antisemitism" not taking a stand against the recent attacks against the jews?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #49 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm

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At least be honest FD - you are incapable of acknowledging any "great gestures" from the muslim community.

Yet to see one. Even gestures are too difficult.

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The fact is you were dishonest by pretending that they only said no to islamophobi

Hence all the references to "throwing it into their chant"? Not sure how you managed to misunderstand that one Gandalf.

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Is saying "no to antisemitism" not taking a stand against the recent attacks against the jews?

Of course. They needed something to lead into the "no to Islamophobia bit". No to ISIS, Muslims are the victims? Doesn't Work. No to slaughtering cartoonists, Muslims are the real victims? Even Muslims are too clever to use that one. Oh look, now the Muslims are targetting Jews, so we can use our protest to link Islamophobia to anti-semitism. No-one will ever notice, God willing.

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Reply #50 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 8:36pm

freediver wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

Yet to see one. Even gestures are too difficult.

You were equally cynical of the peace BBQ the muslims hosted in Sydney. There have been a plethora of gestures I have referred to previously - including the Egyptians who formed a human shield around the Coptic Christians and the snow clearing volunteers in the UK. An honest person will give credit where credits due - but we all know you are incapable of honesty on this topic. Even Sprint praised this gesture for heavens sake.

freediver wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

Hence all the references to "throwing it into their chant"? Not sure how you managed to misunderstand that one Gandalf.

Shall I quote you again FD?

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But instead of chanting "no to terrorism" they chant "no to Islamophobia.

The rally was in specific response to the attack against jews. They chanted "no to anti-semitism", which is tantamount to saying "no to terrorism" in this case. This was bald faced dishonesty on your part, plain and simple.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49062 At my desk.	Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons Reply #51 - Feb 23^rd, 2015 at 9:46pm Oops, I forgot to qualify it that time. No wonder you were confused. Quote: and the snow clearing volunteers in the UK What are you looking for Gandalf? A gold star?
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons Reply #52 - Feb 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am This gesture of empathy and solidarity from the Muslim community in Oslo is received with gratitude... Given, as it was, in accordance with the spirit of the message of the eternally great Martin Luther King. All those who reach out in peace have a right to expect the same in return.
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Reply #53 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 1:10pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

This gesture of empathy and solidarity from the Muslim community in Oslo is received with gratitude... Given, as it was, in accordance with the spirit of the message of the eternally great Martin Luther King.

All those who reach out in peace have a right to expect the same in return.

Er...the story seems to be largely a fabrication.

The weekend’s feel-good story about a Muslim “ring of peace” formed to “protect” Jews at an Oslo synagogue turned out to be a complete fabrication by the mainstream media, according to an eyewitness report, local officials, and attendees’ photos.
According to a local eyewitness, only about 20 or so Muslims formed the “ring of peace” around the Oslo synagogue. In fact, pictures from multiple angles show that there wasn’t enough people to form a ring, so the locals instead formed a horizontal line in front of the synagogue.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/22/media-hoax-20-muslims-hold...

No ring. No 'more than 1000 Muslims". 20 Muslims and 1000 Norwegians looking on. A lot more Muslims attended the Danish shooter's funeral than formed a a 'ring of peace' in Oslo.

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons Reply #54 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 1:32pm I knew it. It reminds me of that bogus #IllRideWithYou bullshit that was created by a racist bigot and the entire story that started it was fabricated. Typical muslims.
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Reply #55 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:25am

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 1:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 24^th, 2015 at 12:35am:

This gesture of empathy and solidarity from the Muslim community in Oslo is received with gratitude... Given, as it was, in accordance with the spirit of the message of the eternally great Martin Luther King.

All those who reach out in peace have a right to expect the same in return.

Er...the story seems to be largely a fabrication.

The weekend’s feel-good story about a Muslim “ring of peace” formed to “protect” Jews at an Oslo synagogue turned out to be a complete fabrication by the mainstream media, according to an eyewitness report, local officials, and attendees’ photos.
According to a local eyewitness, only about 20 or so Muslims formed the “ring of peace” around the Oslo synagogue. In fact, pictures from multiple angles show that there wasn’t enough people to form a ring, so the locals instead formed a horizontal line in front of the synagogue.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/02/22/media-hoax-20-muslims-hold...

No ring. No 'more than 1000 Muslims". 20 Muslims and 1000 Norwegians looking on. A lot more Muslims attended the Danish shooter's funeral than formed a a 'ring of peace' in Oslo.

Gandalf are you going to rebut this?

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Reply #56 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:32am

SweetLambo wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 1:32pm:

I knew it. It reminds me of that bogus #IllRideWithYou bullshit that was created by a racist bigot and the entire story that started it was fabricated.

Typical muslims. Cheesy

You change your name once a week -

now you're a messenger of God -

are you on any medication?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons Reply #57 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:59am There are 20 or so forming the actual ring. But the claim that only 20 muslim turned up is a blatant lie. Says one eyewitness on twitter: Quote: There weren’t 1300 muslims, but also not as few as 20. Even the most muslim critical here say 200 – 300.
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Reply #58 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 7:19am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 6:59am:

There are 20 or so forming the actual ring.

But the claim that only 20 muslim turned up is a blatant lie. Says one eyewitness on twitter:

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There weren’t 1300 muslims, but also not as few as 20. Even the most muslim critical here say 200 – 300.

To paraphrase the now well-known anti-cynical quote from the Talmud - "The one who reaches out in peace saves the world entire ".

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