Gandalf started with a ring of peace. Now he is going with a barricade sandwich. He won't be making that mistake again.

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2015 at 10:01am:


Forgive me for copying a news article from mainstream media. What is clear is that hundreds of muslims turned up, as well as many non-muslims. No one - not Soren, not his neo-nazi bloggers and not AFP/AP - have been able to determine the exact numbers - notwithstanding the BS that both you and Soren were trying on that you can "pick out" the muslims simply by looking at them.

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2015 at 10:01am:




notice the barricade? Notice any suspiciously "muslim" looking people?

freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2015 at 10:01am:


Thats a complete lie FD. reply# 57 - my first post after Soren posted the first refutation of the 1000 figure. I acknowledged the mistake straight away. But rejected Soren's BS about only 20 muslims turning up in total - which he quietly disowned straight away. I also never persisted in defending the "ring" story - though I continue to think it is the height of petty-mindedness to think that such a detail matters.


freediver wrote on Mar 14^th, 2015 at 10:01am:


I am assuming inaccurate reports from a news article don't come from sinister muslims because there is no evidence that it did. Do I really have to explain to you the most basic principle of burden of proof? This is just "muslims must be funding terrorists because I cant think of any other explanation" all over again.

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Sure, I can pick out two of them, simply by looking at them. Fancy that.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 11^th, 2015 at 11:08am:


Gandalf I am yet to see any photos of this second line of hundreds of Muslims. Only you are talking about the first line/second line thing. We are yet to see any decent evidence of any line of hundreds of Muslims.

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Do you defend the barricade sandwich story? When the entire story falls apart because all the details are either wrong or reflect badly on Muslims, it does start to matter. When it becomes a demonstration of how few Muslims will come out to defend Jews from Muslim terrorists (and try to hijack a show of solidarity by non-Muslims and turn it into an Islamophobia Islamic victimhood protest), compared to the number of Muslims that will turn up to the funeral of the terrorist, it matters. The spin entirely contradicts the reality.

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If I countered by assuming they did not come from non-Muslims because I have no evidence on which to make such a claim, would that be a valid rebuttal?

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Yes, please explain how you stating that you know that none of the Muslims involved were responsible for the lies places the burden of proof on others.

freediver wrote on Mar 15^th, 2015 at 9:33am:


So I guess what you are saying is that there is no evidence AFP/AP western news wires are not really covert muslim outfits.

Good point FD.

I just gave you one.

yes.

So we've gone from a symbolic ring over over 1000 Muslims, to a line of 20 Muslims, back to a line of several hundred Muslims, to a bunch of people standing behind a barricade thinking liney thoughts.

freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 12:35pm:


You can call people standing in a big line people "thinking liney thoughts" if it makes you feel better FD. It really does make it all the more sinister doesn't it?