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Reply #15 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:42pm  
The problem with this one is that it takes the cynicism to a whole new level. You don't seem to have grasped the point I made about hitching one cause to another in such a transparent way. The park sleeper person may actually enjoy camping just as the run-runner may enjoy running, but that is not the same thing as hitching a "more money for the rich protest" to the homelessness cause.
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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #16 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:46pm  
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:
The problem with this one is that it takes the cynicism to a whole new level. You don't seem to have grasped the point I made about hitching one cause to another in such a transparent way. The park sleeper person may actually enjoy camping just as the run-runner may enjoy running, but that is not the same thing as hitching a "more money for the rich protest" to the homelessness cause.


To be honest the park sleepers do raise money to help the poor and homeless. Did the mussey pass around a collection plate while they were breast beating outside about islamophibia in there ring ?
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Reply #17 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:53pm  
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:
The problem with this one is that it takes the cynicism to a whole new level. You don't seem to have grasped the point I made about hitching one cause to another in such a transparent way. The park sleeper person may actually enjoy camping just as the run-runner may enjoy running, but that is not the same thing as hitching a "more money for the rich protest" to the homelessness cause.

The point I am making is... What does it matter to the primary cause?

We are complex beings... as such we can incidentally have more than one reason for committing an act.

Those thousand Muslims could have protested Islamophobia anywhere in Oslo... They chose to find common cause with Jews fighting antisemitism. Of course there's no dissuading a cynic from his reinterpretation, but for others there's the human response of empathy to consider.

Maybe if enough Germans during the 30s had hitched the cause of German human dignity to that of protests against antisemitism there wouldn't have been a holocaust.
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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #18 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:56pm  
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:46pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:42pm:
The problem with this one is that it takes the cynicism to a whole new level. You don't seem to have grasped the point I made about hitching one cause to another in such a transparent way. The park sleeper person may actually enjoy camping just as the run-runner may enjoy running, but that is not the same thing as hitching a "more money for the rich protest" to the homelessness cause.


To be honest the park sleepers do raise money to help the poor and homeless. Did the mussey pass around a collection plate while they were breast beating outside about islamophibia in there ring ?

You've already proved you're a cynic.

You don't need another shot at the same question to make another cynical statement...
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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #19 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:03pm  
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:15pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:05pm:
Hardly a reason in itself to complain about their actions.


FD's only purpose here is to ridicule muslims. He wouldn't be here otherwise.


Gandalf how do you feel about them throwing the "no to Islamophobia" bit into their chant while they surround a synagog?


incredibly sinister, thats for sure.

Personally, I think it shows one vulnerable minority showing solidarity with another one.

It also shows the incredible lengths you will go to to maintain the rage against muslims.
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #20 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm  
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:03pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:15pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:05pm:
Hardly a reason in itself to complain about their actions.


FD's only purpose here is to ridicule muslims. He wouldn't be here otherwise.


Gandalf how do you feel about them throwing the "no to Islamophobia" bit into their chant while they surround a synagog?


incredibly sinister, thats for sure.

Personally, I think it shows one vulnerable minority showing solidarity with another one.

It also shows the incredible lengths you will go to to maintain the rage against muslims.


Yes rage against muslim Kafirophobic rage chanting "Say no to Islamophobia" after a mussey murders a truckload of people.

PRICELESS
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They chose to find common cause with Jews fighting antisemitism.


It looks to me more like they chose to hijack the Jews cause. What prompted the protest was a Muslim attacking a synagog - and they chose that protest to hitch their Islamophobia complaint to. I don't know what is worse - the cynicism or the shear stupidity of it. How are these people so clueless?
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Reply #22 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:19pm  
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm:
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They chose to find common cause with Jews fighting antisemitism.


It looks to me more like they chose to hijack the Jews cause. What prompted the protest was a Muslim attacking a synagog - and they chose that protest to hitch their Islamophobia complaint to.

Well, QED on your cynicism.... At least you're loyal to that cause.
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Reply #23 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm  
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm:
It looks to me more like they chose to hijack the Jews cause


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"Humanity is one and we are here to demonstrate that," Zeeshan Abdullah, one of the protest's organizers told a crowd of Muslim immigrants and ethnic Norwegians who filled the small street around Oslo's only functioning synagogue.

"There are many more peace mongers than warmongers," Abdullah said as organizers and Jewish community leaders stood side by side. "There’s still hope for humanity, for peace and love, across religious differences and backgrounds."


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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #24 - Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:47pm  
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:44pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm:
It looks to me more like they chose to hijack the Jews cause


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"Humanity is one and we are here to demonstrate that," Zeeshan Abdullah, one of the protest's organizers told a crowd of Muslim immigrants and ethnic Norwegians who filled the small street around Oslo's only functioning synagogue.

"There are many more peace mongers than warmongers," Abdullah said as organizers and Jewish community leaders stood side by side. "There’s still hope for humanity, for peace and love, across religious differences and backgrounds."




I wonder who the peace mongers were that he was referring too.
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Reply #25 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 5:33am  
On face value this is a positive development. I have to qualify that though. They are of course making their symbolic stand in a rather safe place. I would like to see the same thing in the Netherlands and France, and the real hot spots of Muslim fanaticism.


While politicians blather about standing together against the terrorist, radical, militant etc we in the West have no defence against suicidal maniacs hopped up on religion, and Muslims are fully prepared to take advantage of this.

If this demonstration in the safe haven of Norway were to become a groundswell in Muslim populations throughout the world it would prove the apologists, and others who claim Muslims are just like us, to be correct. I would then modify my present very low opinion of Muslim culture. So come on Muslims, if you are so peaceful, then prove it.
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Reply #26 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:33am  
SweetLambo wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:05pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 10:03pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 9:15pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:37pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 8:05pm:
Hardly a reason in itself to complain about their actions.


FD's only purpose here is to ridicule muslims. He wouldn't be here otherwise.


Gandalf how do you feel about them throwing the "no to Islamophobia" bit into their chant while they surround a synagog?


incredibly sinister, thats for sure.

Personally, I think it shows one vulnerable minority showing solidarity with another one.

It also shows the incredible lengths you will go to to maintain the rage against muslims.


Yes rage against muslim Kafirophobic rage chanting "Say no to Islamophobia" after a mussey murders a truckload of people.

PRICELESS



Yep, as priceless as a non-Muzzie killing an island full of non-Muzzie Leftists' kids after killing a lot of non-Muzzie left and right-wingers' kids in Oslo only a couple of years ago.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #27 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:00pm  
polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 22nd, 2015 at 7:37pm:
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More than 1000 Muslims formed a human shield around Oslo's synagogue on Saturday, offering symbolic protection for the city's Jewish community and condemning an attack on a synagogue in neighboring Denmark last weekend.

Chanting "No to anti-Semitism, no to Islamophobia," Norway's Muslims formed what they called a ring of peace a week after Omar Abdel Hamid El-Hussein, a Danish-born son of Palestinian immigrants, killed two people at a synagogue and an event promoting free speech in Copenhagen last weekend.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/21/us-norway-muslims-jews-idUSKBN0LP0AG20...

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Good on them.
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Reply #28 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:22pm  
|dev|null wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:33am:
Yep, as priceless as a non-Muzzie killing an island full of non-Muzzie Leftists' kids after killing a lot of non-Muzzie left and right-wingers' kids in Oslo only a couple of years ago.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Fatah youth had been using that Island for over 15 years,what are you saying about no muslims there HB?

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It is with consternation that we have received the dramatic news of an awful terrorist attack against a summer camp ran by our comrades of the Norweigian labor youth

Fatah youth has participated for almost 15 years in the same summer camp.
www.maannews.com/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?id=407665


Perhaps Brevik chose the wrong day,there was a boycott Israel and gaza flotilla party the day before the massacre,Fatah youth had been using that Island as a holiday camp for over 15 years.
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Re: British muslims protest Charlie Hebdo cartoons
Reply #29 - Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:27pm  
Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 12:22pm:
|dev|null wrote on Feb 23rd, 2015 at 11:33am:
Yep, as priceless as a non-Muzzie killing an island full of non-Muzzie Leftists' kids after killing a lot of non-Muzzie left and right-wingers' kids in Oslo only a couple of years ago.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


Fatah youth had been using that Island for over 15 years,what are you saying about no muslims there HB?


Were any Muslims killed Baron?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy

Would the deaths of Muslims justify what Brievik had done?  Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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