freediver wrote on Mar 17^th, 2015 at 9:42pm:


Oh we know FD. With reuters fabricating a 'good news' story about muslims that "goes beyond regular journalistic incompetence" , and  sinister muslims "doing what they do - deliberately misrepresenting the threat posed by Islam to civilisation" - we can certainly join the dots.

But the most important thing here is that we must not call it a conspiracy.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 6:46am:


Typical. It’s PC gone mad, it really is.

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 9:11am:


Indeed. Just take this episode - a sinister collaboration between western news wires - fabricating a good news story about muslims in which the lies "goes beyond mere journalistic incompetence" - and worldwide muslimry seeking to cover up "the threat posed by Islam to civilisation".

You know, that thing thats most definitely not a conspiracy.

Soren wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 9:43am:


Thanks S. I too think its vitally important to expose blatant mistruths that are used to push agendas.

By the way, what category do you put the lie you once tried to peddle that no more than 20 muslims turned up? Or that most of the muslims present "declined" to participate in the demonstration? Or that a riot in Sweden was caused by a would-honour killing muslim? Or attributing a Christian Armenian terror attack to muslims?

Would you put it in the "[muslim] psychotic behaviour is blown out of all proportion" category? I'm curious.

freediver wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 1:02pm:


Individually? Individually it just sounds like a lot of nonsense conspiracy theory rantings. First we have your "beyond regular journalistic incompetence"  - which apparently only requires 1. confusion regarding how many, out of a crowd of around 1000, were muslim (which no one seems to know) - and 2. incorrectly calling a "line" a "ring". Call me Mr sinister muslim, but they sound pretty benign to me. Did you have anything else in mind when you talked about an article that is "based on lies" so much so that it "goes beyond regular journalistic incompetence"? I would certainly hope so, but keeping in mind of course that you never bothered to read any of the articles.

Secondly we have the claim that something about this story is "Muslims doing what they do - deliberately misrepresenting the threat posed by Islam to civilisation" - exactly where that comes into it is not exactly clear. When pressed, you simply cite me (your standard tactic) for the high crime of referencing the story as it was reported in mainstream media - then lying about me trying to persist with the inaccuracies after they were refuted. The only other tenuous link was just a really lame-arsed appeal that it can't actually be proven that the story didn't come from sinister muslims (yes you really did resort to that).

So we have two lofty claims about the whole episode, which under any sort of scrutiny turn out to be nothing but meaningless hot air and bluster. Thats what I think about your claims - individually.

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If the article was about 1000+ Muslims forming a ring of peace, and neither the number of Muslims nor the ring were correct, then yes that is the case.

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How about incompetent? If you were paying someone to gather facts and put them into an article, and they gave you that, would you be satisfied? I would fire them.

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No Gandalf, I merely meant that it is based on lies and goes beyond typical journalistic incompetence.

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You are still insisting that there was a second line consisting of hundreds of Muslims.

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You resorted to making claims about this - claims that you have no basis for. I did not. You attempted to justify your claims by citing a total lack of evidence to support them. Another example of Muslims doing what Muslims do.

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Most unbiased people would interpret the various articles you have presented and defended that way - lofty claims that turned out to be hollow. Pointing out that it was all BS is hardly a lofty claim, as even you concede it was BS.

Armenians in Melbourne, dear boy. You conceded they were Kurds.

Were you being stupid or mendacious in your attempt to push back such Musel propaganda?

I’m curious.