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Were there more or less than 20 of them in this first, "real" line? And why no men?

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Like the second line of hundreds of Muslims?

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 11:21am:


Those bearded women have a nerve. Fancy holding hands with non-Muslims in such a phoney display of peaceful co-existence. We know what those Muselmen are really up to.

Google: taqiyya.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 11:21am:



He was lying. And so are you.

He was not the organiser of spectators but the organiser of the 'ring of peace' wheeze. He could muster only 20 but talked himself up by saying that there were another 2-300 in the crowd (who evidently declined to join in and preferred to be... er... remain unidentifiable).  So he is trying to arse-cover for being able to round up only 20 Muslims willing to stand in front of a synagogue and not throw molotov cocktails.
And you take his ord because you cannot see through his lies.


His word is not enough, Gandy, and until you provide independent evidence, you are also lying furiously through your sharia-compliant beard, I'm afraid.


Peace

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:36pm:


No, old boy, you pretended you said no such thing.

Are you saying they were mistakes? You mean - not mendacious?

Stupid?

Shurely shome mishtake, non?

Karnal wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 9:15pm:


Mistakes 

Yes, Soren "mistakenly" fabricated an entire whopper about a non-existent muslim honour killer trying to kill his family with the kitchen knife.

Soren's "acknowledgment" of the Stockholm fairy tale was more of a "well ok - but I'm still basically right" sort of pissweak concession. It certainly wasn't a "yes I lied - and I concede it is utterly outrageous to smear muslims with fabricated stories based on nothing but negative stereotypes - like I did" type of concession.

You can start by manning up and stop referring to your whoppers as mere "mistake".

Do you at least have an inkling that these sorts of lies are rampant amongst islamic-critics and damage not only the prospects of stopping violent extremism on both sides - but also damages legitimate criticism of islam?

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I have you insisting - still - that hundreds of Muslims formed a second line, not to mention your previous versions of events. I may not be able to demonstrate where they originally came from, can I can demonstrate you willingly gobbling them up.

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You have no clue where the lies came from, but this did not stop you insisting that you know they did not come from the Muslims involved. You even tried to argue that the lies appearing in a mainstream publication supports your assertion.

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You mean other than his obvious motivation to save face and the endless stream of blatant lies that have made their way into the media and into your head? For most people it is a case of once bitten twice shy. You lap it up. The more lies get pointed out, the harder you cling to whatever you can find.

Oh, and one other thing that should make you distrust it - the lack of photographic evidence in support. It is one thing to complain about the difficulty in knowing for certain who is a Muslim, but that does not explain the few lonely 'sinister looking Muslims' in a sea of white faces, when they supposedly number in the hundreds in a crowd of less than 1000.

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You argued exactly this in this thread every time you finally conceded that yet another detail in your fairytale version of events was a transparent lie. Stop trying to deflect to what Soren did in the past and take responsibility for your own BS. Soren agrees with you, very patiently, every time you bring it up. You still parrot obvious lies.

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How do you describe all your "mistakes" in this thread Gandalf? Do you at least have an inkling that these sorts of lies are rampant amongst Muslims and damage not only the prospects of stopping violent extremism on both sides - but also damages legitimate support of islam? You often argue that society is to blame for turning Muslims into lunatics with a victimhood complex. You are that society, and your lies are the propaganda that the lunatics feed off.

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You parrot and defend Gandalf.

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Correct. You provided the evidence that it is BS.

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The formation of a second line. The presence of hundreds of Muslims in it. The crap about "logistical and security reasons" for abandoning the ring of peace is at best transparent spin.

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But you claimed you did.

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Would you agree that it is wrong to insist that this absence of evidence is evidence that none of those Muslims were responsible? This is what you claimed Gandalf. You did not claim a benefit of the doubt. You actually insisted that not knowing who made up the lies shows that it was not the Muslims.

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At what point do they become lies Gandalf?