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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #225 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 1:45pm

freediver wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

The formation of a second line. The presence of hundreds of Muslims in it. The crap about "logistical and security reasons" for abandoning the ring of peace is at best transparent spin.

I can only conclude that you don't know the meaning of lying.

If thats me lying, I would had to have either invented the claim myself or continue to push the claims while knowing for a fact they are wrong. I have done neither:

1. there is a second line, your stupid sneering over whether its a breadth-way or a length-way line does not change the fact that its a line

2. there is no reason to disbelieve the claim that there are hundreds of muslims - the organisers were reported before the event as expecting hundreds of muslims, they say that hundreds turned up - there is no reason to disbelieve the claim since you have not a shred of evidence there wasn't hundreds of muslims there.

3. the 'logistical and security' reasons was a quote directly from the TOI article, and since there's no reason for me to somehow "know" it wasn't true, it therefore can't be me lying. If you don't think security was ever considered, how to explain the presense of a police barricade - or even police?

So in summary, FD's great meme here that this episode is all about muslim

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(plural) pushing lies in order to conceal the true threat of Islam- all boils down to a single muslim (me) not lying about anything.

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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #226 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 2:10pm

freediver wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

Would you agree that it is wrong to insist that this absence of evidence is evidence that none of those Muslims were responsible?

Yes - what I should have said is there is no *REASON* to believe that any of the fabrications came from any muslim - because there is no evidence. I think I made it pretty clear thats what I meant. Would you agree with this at least?

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Reply #227 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 4:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 1:45pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 12:27pm:

The formation of a second line. The presence of hundreds of Muslims in it. The crap about "logistical and security reasons" for abandoning the ring of peace is at best transparent spin.

I can only conclude that you don't know the meaning of lying.

If thats me lying, I would had to have either invented the claim myself or continue to push the claims while knowing for a fact they are wrong. I have done neither:

1. there is a second line, your stupid sneering over whether its a breadth-way or a length-way line does not change the fact that its a line

2. there is no reason to disbelieve the claim that there are hundreds of muslims - the organisers were reported before the event as expecting hundreds of muslims, they say that hundreds turned up - there is no reason to disbelieve the claim since you have not a shred of evidence there wasn't hundreds of muslims there.

3. the 'logistical and security' reasons was a quote directly from the TOI article, and since there's no reason for me to somehow "know" it wasn't true, it therefore can't be me lying. If you don't think security was ever considered, how to explain the presense of a police barricade - or even police?

So in summary, FD's great meme here that this episode is all about muslim

s

(plural) pushing lies in order to conceal the true threat of Islam- all boils down to a single muslim (me) not lying about anything.

Now now, G, you’ve got this entirely the wrong way around.

It’s a lie because you are a Muslim. We have established Muslims lie, you are a Muslim. Ipso facto, this is a lie too. It has to be.

You can’t trick us, G. We know what you’re up to - you, Reuters, Fox News, the lot.

Put them in the Wiki for taqiyya, FD. They’re terrible fibbers.

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Reply #228 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:46pm

Muslims want sharia, caliphate, respect for their oppressive ideas.

I don't want any of that. I don't want sharia, caliphate, any of the theocratic crap that Islam entails. I do not want any Islam in my life.

Incompatibility, innit. Our kids are going to kill each other.

Muslims are already killing us for not being Muslism. When the blow back to that starts, it will be cataclysmic. Another cold war / clash of cultures/ideologies is just around the corner. It will kill Islam as a major force - or it will give it victory. The final clash between Islam and the West is on. One of them will go under, once and for all.i

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95879 Gender:	Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews Reply #229 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:38pm Yes, old boy, but you do want Freudianism and Lutheranism. Who to pick? Freud, Luther, or the sinister Muhammed? No one has the right to not be offended. Innit.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews Reply #230 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 7:54am I have lost even more respect for Soren after he confirmed his "all muslims are political activists" hysteria. Yadda-lite
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95879 Gender:	Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews Reply #231 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 10:01am Actually, the old boy’s just a wheezy version of Sprint. Carpet-bomb them.
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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #232 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:52am

Soren wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

Muslims want sharia, caliphate, respect for their oppressive ideas.

I don't want any of that. I don't want sharia, caliphate, any of the theocratic crap that Islam entails. I do not want any Islam in my life.

Incompatibility, innit. Our kids are going to kill each other.

Muslims are already killing us for not being Muslism. When the blow back to that starts, it will be cataclysmic. Another cold war / clash of cultures/ideologies is just around the corner. It will kill Islam as a major force - or it will give it victory. The final clash between Islam and the West is on. One of them will go under, once and for all.i

The sooner the better, it is ridiculous that in todays modern age we have to put up with the islamic ridiculous nonsensical tales. Mohammed historically never even existed until a caliph invented him 60 years after his non existent birth. According to the caliph.

The sooner we rid ourselves of this ridiculous dangerous thick group of people the better humankind will be.

The problem is they actually know deep down allah and mohammed are a lie. They will never admit it, hence why they are always so angry and this manifests in violence repeatedly.

I am assuming this thread is the one that is pretending the handful of muslims that turned up and formed a conga line and shouted out "down with isamophobia" is still being beaten to death by a muslim. Yeah that old thread ho hum.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40754 Gender:	Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews Reply #233 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:55am polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 7:54am: I have lost even more respect for Soren after he confirmed his "all muslims are political activists" hysteria. Yadda-lite I have no respect or time for any muslim.
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Reply #234 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 12:07pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 11:55am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 7:54am:

I have lost even more respect for Soren after he confirmed his "all muslims are political activists" hysteria.

Yadda-lite

I have no respect or time for any muslim.

Me too, the only reason I post is to expose the lies/tales posted by them for other readers and to expose the cult to muslims who are exiting the groups oppressiveness and abuse.

Lets face it at ozpol its pretty thin on the ground where muslims and knowledge of islam is concerned. Its just more breast beating and the odd lie.

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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #235 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 7:54am:

I have lost even more respect for Soren after he confirmed his "all muslims are political activists" hysteria.

Yadda-lite

Thank you for the shameless distortion, very Muslim of you. Do you really think people do not notice your constant rhetorical sleights of hand, elisions, distortions, exaggerations??

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Reply #236 - Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm

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If thats me lying, I would had to have either invented the claim myself or continue to push the claims while knowing for a fact they are wrong.

So you still insist there was a second line consisting of hundreds of Muslims? Can you tell which direction this line goes in from the alleged photos of it? Or is it not that kind of line?

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1. there is a second line, your stupid sneering over whether its a breadth-way or a length-way line does not change the fact that its a line

Well done Gandalf. You could have put it more simply by saying if there is a line, then there is a line. And if there is a line you would then not have any trouble saying which way it goes, which would save me all that sneering I have to do. It would be a win-win situation.

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there is no reason to disbelieve the claim that there are hundreds of muslims

This would have to be the tenth time you have said this. Each time I patiently explain that the photos do not support this claim. Then you ignore it. Are you having trouble comprehending what I am saying?

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the organisers were reported before the event as expecting hundreds of muslims, they say that hundreds turned up

Do you realise this is a motive for them to lie?

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the 'logistical and security' reasons was a quote directly from the TOI article, and since there's no reason for me to somehow "know" it wasn't true

Of course it was true. One fairly obvious logistical difficulty is in trying to make a ring of peace consisting of hundreds of Muslims out of about 20 of them.

Not sure why they mentioned security. Does that make sense to you?

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Yes - what I should have said is there is no *REASON* to believe that any of the fabrications came from any muslim - because there is no evidence. I think I made it pretty clear thats what I meant. Would you agree with this at least?

I think this is a good time to highlight the difference between you and Soren on these "mistakes". With you I have to explain a dozen times why it is a lie before you concede that it is. Soren on the other hand has to explain a dozen times that he concedes the point before you finally stop bringing it up in unrelated threads.

I think it is highly likely that Muslims are responsible for the lies, but I am not going to bother figuring out who.

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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #237 - Mar 22^nd, 2015 at 1:35pm

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

So you still insist there was a second line consisting of hundreds of Muslims? Can you tell which direction this line goes in from the alleged photos of it? Or is it not that kind of line?

This is you being stupid. Wake up and take a long look at yourself for once.

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

which would save me all that sneering I have to do.

You didn't have to sneer - least of all over this unbelievably inane point. Its a demonstration of what a petty mind you have - to keep an inane point alive at all costs, and do whatever it takes not to stop your spineless apologism for the islamophobes.

Maybe you should think about this next time - you don't *HAVE* to sneer over such petty-minded things. That indeed would be a win-win for everyone.

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

This would have to be the tenth time you have said this. Each time I patiently explain that the photos do not support this claim.

Ten times is apparently not enough. And I'm guessing it will take a lot more than 10 times of explaining before it ever dawns on you that the photos do not support *ANYTHING* about the personal beliefs of those present. But humour me FD, what stereotypical, simplistic notions about muslims do you think, in your little mind, *ARE* supported by the photos? That muslims in Norway are never white? Or that muslim women never go out without a hijab?

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

Of course it was true. One fairly obvious logistical difficulty is in trying to make a ring of peace consisting of hundreds of Muslims out of about 20 of them.

Not sure why they mentioned security. Does that make sense to you?

I don't know and I don't really care. But I'm content to mark this down as you acknowledging that your previous claim that the story was a fabrication by me personally, and/or its a red hot example of me lying - was something you simply pulled from your rectum.

freediver wrote on Mar 21^st, 2015 at 3:38pm:

I think it is highly likely that Muslims are responsible for the lies, but I am not going to bother figuring out who.

Good FD - and I'll mark that one down as you finally acknowledging your original adamant statement that the story was one big sinister muslim-led conspiracy lying operation - as something you also pulled from your rectum.

I think we're making progress.

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Reply #238 - Mar 22^nd, 2015 at 1:40pm

It would seem apologizing for a few muslims using a small conga line to promote "anti islamophobia" under the auspices of help Jews ROFL Grin

has lost its shine these days I guess.

One would think its time to move on from that funny display. It's old now and has been done to death. Flogging a dead horse is always a good thing if you want to look like a simpleton.

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Reply #239 - Mar 22^nd, 2015 at 3:46pm

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You didn't have to sneer - least of all over this unbelievably inane point.

The entire thing is inane. Someone cobbled together a string of inane lies to create a story of Muslims doing something normal. It was so out of character that it made the news worldwide. But is is still all BS. What is not inane is your desperation to cling to each lie.

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Its a demonstration of what a petty mind you have - to keep an inane point alive at all costs, and do whatever it takes not to stop your spineless apologism for the islamophobes.

You are keeping it alive by lying about it. That's the story here. Not whether it was a line or a random crowd, but the desperation of people such as yourself to make something - anything - out of it.

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Maybe you should think about this next time - you don't *HAVE* to sneer over such petty-minded things. That indeed would be a win-win for everyone.

I can't help it Gandalf. But my facial muscles are getting sore, so I would appreciate it if you would quit telling petty lies then having a go at other people for picking up on them.

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Ten times is apparently not enough. And I'm guessing it will take a lot more than 10 times of explaining before it ever dawns on you that the photos do not support *ANYTHING* about the personal beliefs of those present.

Says the guy who presented a photo of "sinister looking" Muslims as evidence.

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But humour me FD, what stereotypical, simplistic notions about muslims do you think, in your little mind, *ARE* supported by the photos? That muslims in Norway are never white? Or that muslim women never go out without a hijab?

That they did not make up hundreds in that crowd of under 1000. Oh look I am being petty again.

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I don't know and I don't really care.

Obviously you don't care, or you would be too embarrassed to keep trotting out this BS, even when it does not even make sense.

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But I'm content to mark this down as you acknowledging that your previous claim that the story was a fabrication by me personally

I hate to get all petty on you again Gandalf, but this is another lie. Feel free to quote what I actually said if you disagree, and we'll see if I can explain it to you.

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and/or its a red hot example of me lying - was something you simply pulled from your rectum.

Do you appreciate the irony here?

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Good FD - and I'll mark that one down as you finally acknowledging your original adamant statement that the story was one big sinister muslim-led conspiracy lying operation - as something you also pulled from your rectum.

Again - feel free to quote what I actually said.

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