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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #360 - Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:24pm:
ou are the one making up excuses for rejecting what the photos show Gandalf.


Like the one with no men in it - you know the one you invented?

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Reply #361 - Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:59pm
 
Gandalf, can you produce any photos that support your claims of a second line of hundreds of Muslims? Or even just hundreds of Muslims? So far all you have offered as evidence is excuses for why you cannot possibly pick Muslims out of a crowd, except for when you can. If it is so easy to pick out half a dozen Muslims in your first line, how can a few hundred of them be hiding in the crowd? Was there a sudden eclipse just as they realised what a good idea it would be to take a photo that captures the strong Muslim presence?
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Reply #362 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 8:36am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
Gandalf, can you produce any photos that support your claims of a second line of hundreds of Muslims? Or even just hundreds of Muslims? So far all you have offered as evidence is excuses for why you cannot possibly pick Muslims out of a crowd, except for when you can. If it is so easy to pick out half a dozen Muslims in your first line, how can a few hundred of them be hiding in the crowd? Was there a sudden eclipse just as they realised what a good idea it would be to take a photo that captures the strong Muslim presence?


There are no photos, FD. It is a lie. G is getting his information from Reuters, a known Muslim front operation that disseminated its propaganda to CNN and Fox News, who were also in on the whole thing.

I’m surprised that, after 20 odd pages, you’re still trying to get the Muslims and their spineless apologists to understand that Muslims did NOT defend a synagogue in Oslo. How could they?

They want to take away the freeeeedoms of decent white people everywhere.
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Reply #363 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 11:10am
 
Karnal wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 8:36am:
They want to take away the freeeeedoms of decent white people everywhere.


Who?  The Jews or the Muslims who weren't protecting their place of worship?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #364 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 11:58am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2015 at 7:59pm:
Gandalf, can you produce any photos that support your claims of a second line of hundreds of Muslims? Or even just hundreds of Muslims? So far all you have offered as evidence is excuses for why you cannot possibly pick Muslims out of a crowd, except for when you can. If it is so easy to pick out half a dozen Muslims in your first line, how can a few hundred of them be hiding in the crowd? Was there a sudden eclipse just as they realised what a good idea it would be to take a photo that captures the strong Muslim presence?


I'm not going to continue repeating myself - I believe what the muslims have said because there is no reason not to believe them - you have not come up with a single lie by any muslim, nor any reason to be suspicious of anything any muslim has said. The only known false information was that reported by western news wires, and there is absolutely no link at all between this reporting and a sinister muslim conspiracy ploy to conceal the threat of Islam. Your entire meme about lying muslims is based entirely on the notion that muslims are lying - yet you have so spectacularly failed to come up with a single muslim lie - just your BS baseless assumption that what they say is untrue.

Your entire meme is built on a house of cards, a few meaningless quips and superlatives that fall flat on their face when you start attempting to justify your big words. Your pathetic tail chasing exercise regarding what constitutes a "line" is the best illustration of how petty minded and irrational your campaign against muslims is: muslism are the most sinister mendacious liars - because they call a row of people a "line". I mean really FD, it just speaks for itself. One day you'll look back on this and hold your head in shame.
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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #365 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
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you have not come up with a single lie by any muslim


Your original thread title stated there were over 1000 Muslims. What about "it was too dark to tell"? Or that there was a second line consisting of hundreds of Muslims?

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nor any reason to be suspicious of anything any muslim has said


Are you trying to blame all the lies on non-Muslims? At what point do you take responsibility for what you post? Why do you keep attempting to interpret the photographic evidence yourself, then retreating back to "no reason to disbelieve"?

Gandalf, unless there is someone who knows and is capable of recognising each of the Muslims of Oslo visually, you have the same information available to you as every other commentator on this. It is pretty easy to interpret, at least in terms of the broad positions put forward, like over 1000 Muslims, a few hundred or 20. You cannot ignore the demographics while insisting Muslims were present in the numbers you claim, nor can you get away with your latest excuse that it was too dark to tell or that they all just happened to be white.

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Your pathetic tail chasing exercise regarding what constitutes a "line"


And yet even you are trying to distance yourself from this lie. Aren't you Gandalf? All of the lies are petty Gandalf. But they are still lies and the motivation for them is as transparent as ever.
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Reply #366 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:46pm
 
Exaggeration by the media shills suddenly becomes lies by Muslims or lies by Gandalf FD?  Really?  You are getting desperate it seems.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #367 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 3:35pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Are you trying to blame all the lies on non-Muslims? At what point do you take responsibility for what you post?


None of the information that we know is untrue came from any muslim. How many different ways do you need me to tell you FD? Also, I corrected my mistake as soon as it was revealed to me. Quoting what was reported in MSM is not lying - especially when you acknowledge and correct the record as soon as its revealed the information was wrong.

Interesting isn't it, that FD's entire argument has been based on the assertion that the whole story is about muslims lying. Yet when push comes to shove, the only muslim he will name as lying, is me. And then we go through what are the actual lies I supposedly make, and his house of cards comes crashing down.

Would you like to compile another list of the "lies" I made FD - so I can explain to you again how they're not lies, and so you can hit back again by denying you ever meant them as my lies? That sure bolstered your point last time Cheesy
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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #368 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 3:41pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
Exaggeration by the media shills suddenly becomes lies by Muslims or lies by Gandalf FD?  Really?  You are getting desperate it seems.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin


Reuters misreporting about how many muslims were present is by default a muslim lie - even when there is no evidence, and even when the only thing we hear from any muslim involved was to reject this figure. Poor FD - he went from asserting he had no idea where the "lie" came from, to stating it as unquestioned fact that it came from muslims:

freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Your original thread title stated there were over 1000 Muslims


Thats what FD said when it was put to him that no muslim lies had been revealed. So he's either saying its muslims feeding the misinformation to Reuters/AFP, or I'm the liar for quoting what was reported in MSM. Either scenario is transparent BS.

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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #369 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 4:06pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
And yet even you are trying to distance yourself from this lie. Aren't you Gandalf?


No really FD, I'm not. I'm more than happy to call that row of people a line. Consider me firmly, 100% 'un-distanced' from this claim. I will make it a badge and wear it every day if you like. I'll call it "there was a second row of people standing in front of the Oslo Synagogue - which I proudly call a 'line'"

My FD - is the cognitive dissonance kicking in - that you must project your own embarassment about this ridiculous point on to other people? Exactly what gave you the impression I was trying to distance myself from it? I'm curious. Was it by any chance the same part of your rectum where you pulled the idea that I had posted a picture of the crowd containing only women? Or possibly the place where you conjured the idea that the 1000 muslims claim by western news sources was a muslim lie? Or even the place where you find the logic that it is impossible to know where any of the "lies" come from - but its definitely about sinister muslims lying to conceal the true threat of Islam?
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Re: Hundreds of muslims show solidarity with Oslo Jews
Reply #370 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 4:18pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 5th, 2015 at 7:32am:
why did you only post photos of Muslim women until I noticed the absence of men?


Now, if I was FD, I would feel compelled to call this a lie.

But I am not FD - I know it wasn't a lie - just yet another example of FD's lazy, careless, ill-thought out, idiotic buffoonry that has become his trademark.

Take note how FD continues his "muslim-inspired misinformation" theme, completely oblivious to these sorts of howlers that he churns out day in day out. And then will deny ever perpetuating misinformation when exposed:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1426841600
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Reply #371 - Apr 7th, 2015 at 4:26pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 7th, 2015 at 4:18pm:
just yet another example of FD's lazy, careless, ill-thought out, idiotic buffoonry that has become his trademark.


I thought only the Sensei engaged in such strategies G.  Afterall he is the Master of the Way!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #372 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am
 
Gandalf - this person that you "have no reason to disbelieve". How do you think they came up with their estimate of the number of Muslims present?

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None of the information that we know is untrue came from any muslim.


We have been over this Gandalf. As I recall you have even retracted this claim.

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Also, I corrected my mistake as soon as it was revealed to me.


You retracted some "mistakes" faster than others. Some you retracted and then made again.

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Interesting isn't it, that FD's entire argument has been based on the assertion that the whole story is about muslims lying.


What I asserted is that the topic has become about you clinging to those lies in the face of the evidence.

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Yet when push comes to shove, the only muslim he will name as lying, is me. And then we go through what are the actual lies I supposedly make, and his house of cards comes crashing down.


You asked me to list some of the lies. I listed them. You agreed they were lies. You shouldn't pretend you were asking a different question after you get the answer Gandalf.

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No really FD, I'm not. I'm more than happy to call that row of people a line.


Do you mean just the people up against the barrier, or the rest of the crowd behind them?
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Reply #373 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:47am
 
And remember, G, sometimes a question is just a question.
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Reply #374 - Apr 8th, 2015 at 10:44am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
Gandalf - this person that you "have no reason to disbelieve". How do you think they came up with their estimate of the number of Muslims present?


I don't know, but it wouldn't be all that hard to believe that he knew seeing he was the one there and the one who organised it. One thing it definitely isn't - is proof that he is lying.

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
We have been over this Gandalf. As I recall you have even retracted this claim.


Ah - another imaginary retraction. I'm seeing a pattern here. I thought you would have learned after being exposed for pulling this same BS out of your rectum last post. Feel free to look through my posts again and quote where I have apparently admitted that any misinformation about any of the story came from any muslim. Or, I guess you can do what you always do - quietly ignore this one and move on to another equally stupid accusation against me.

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
You retracted some "mistakes" faster than others. Some you retracted and then made again.


My your rectum really does have a seemingly limitless capacity for BS. Lets go through this shall we - exactly what did I "retract" then make again? Once again, if I was FD this would be a most sinister lie, unquestionably linked to some sinister conspiracy ploy. If quibbling over what is and isn't a 'line' constitutes such a sinister lie, then we can only imagine what routinely putting words into other people's mouth, and accusing them of doing things they demonstrably have not done - equates to.

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
What I asserted is that the topic has become about you clinging to those lies in the face of the evidence.


You asserted that the entire story is based on lies. Thats a stupendously stupid thing to say to anyone who has even the most glancing understanding of the story. This was bad enough, but to maintain - presumably with a straight face - that one of the cornerstones of this assertion is a disagreement over what constitues a 'line' of people - just takes the stupidity to new levels. Its little wonder then that the cognitive dissonance over how stupid you must know this claim was - became so great that you had to project your own embarassment over it on to me - by claiming it was me who was trying to distance myself from the line claim. Just yet another piece of faecal matter you pulled from your rectum.

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
You asked me to list some of the lies. I listed them. You agreed they were lies


Oh wow, STILL more space in that rectum I see. I agreed no such thing. Quote me if you disagree. I think I'll start keeping a tally on all the crap you have invented in this thread.

freediver wrote on Apr 8th, 2015 at 8:33am:
Do you mean just the people up against the barrier, or the rest of the crowd behind them?


Everyone behind th barrier - obviously. Thats the great lie that is so instrumental in this conspiracy ploy by muslims to conceal the true threat of islam - that muslims commit the high crime of calling this row of people a "line". Nothing else I can say can highlight the stupidity of this - it really speaks for itself.
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