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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pushy arrogant muslim Reply #15 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm: Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!! Yeah, my sentiments entirely.
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Reply #16 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:03pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

When a court of law is in session, the Judge(s) sitting in that court are the final arbiter of what is appropriate behaviour in that courtroom.

No one else.

If the Judge himself/herself behaves inappropriately [in court] then that would be for that body which has authority over the particular Judge to determine.

You miss the point. I'm no talking about who has authority where, I'm talking about the societal values she brings to the courtroom. And as I demonstrated, that particular Canadian community has demonstrably rejected the idea that the hijab is not an appropriate dress in the public sphere. So of course she has the right to ban it in her courtroom, but she only demonstrates that her values are out of touch with her society.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #17 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:16pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:03pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

When a court of law is in session, the Judge(s) sitting in that court are the final arbiter of what is appropriate behaviour in that courtroom.

No one else.

If the Judge himself/herself behaves inappropriately [in court] then that would be for that body which has authority over the particular Judge to determine.

You miss the point. I'm no talking about who has authority where, I'm talking about the societal values she brings to the courtroom. And as I demonstrated, that particular Canadian community has demonstrably rejected the idea that the hijab is not an appropriate dress in the public sphere. So of course she has the right to ban it in her courtroom, but she only demonstrates that her values are out of touch with her society.

Incorrect, hearsay.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Reply #18 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 4:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 11:18am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 9:22am:

It is a place which represent the authority of the government and the people of Canada.

If its supposed to represent the government and the people of Canada, then it is badly out of touch. Unless I'm unaware of public bans on religious head dress. But I don't think so:

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In 2013, the pro-independence Parti Quebecois (PQ) government moved to ban public servants from wearing Muslim head coverings such as hijabs, Jewish skullcaps or other obvious religious symbols.

But the bill died when the PQ was defeated in a provincial election last year.

Noice.

PQ was not defeated because of of their call to ban the Muslim garb. But your slant is calculated to create that impression.

In the real world, meanwhile:

Québécois Francophone Attitudes towards women wearing the Hijab and Niqab: Implications for the "Charte des Valeurs Québécoises"

ABSTRACT Using computer generated photos, this study investigated Québécois Francophone attitudes toward women wearing the Islamic veil and toward immigrants in Québec. Results revealed that Québécois Francophones had the least favourable attitudes toward a woman wearing the niqab, followed by one wearing the Catholic veil and one wearing the hijab. The most favourable attitudes were held toward a woman dressed in western clothing. Ànalyses showed that negative attitudes toward Àrab Muslim immigrants were correlated with unfavourable attitudes toward women wearing the hijab and the niqab.

Canadian Diversity 01/2013; 10(2)

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: pushy arrogant muslim Reply #19 - Feb 28^th, 2015 at 4:57pm polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 3:03pm: And as I demonstrated Now now. You demonstrated something else, Gandy.
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Reply #20 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 3:07pm

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 4:54pm:

PQ was not defeated because of of their call to ban the Muslim garb. But your slant is calculated to create that impression.

Right, good. I'll be sure to remember this logic the next time you lot crow about Tony Abbott having a "mandate" to scrap the carbon tax purely by virtue of defeating the labor party in the last election.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: pushy arrogant muslim Reply #21 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm: two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm: Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!! Yeah, my sentiments entirely. Send em the F home I say.
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Reply #22 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are born here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

So much for religious freedom, Matty/Anti-Anthrax/etc... Roll Eyes

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Reply #23 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 8:10pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are borne here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

So much for religious freedom, Matty/Anti-Anthrax/etc... Roll Eyes

Since Islam is not a religion but a political ideology your silly Matty rant as per usual is rendered moot.

Send them to Syria easy, the maggots over there have toilets to clean.

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Reply #24 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 8:26pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 8:10pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are borne here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

So much for religious freedom, Matty/Anti-Anthrax/etc... Roll Eyes

Since Islam is not a religion but a political ideology your silly Matty rant as per usual is rendered moot.

Send them to Syria easy, the maggots over there have toilets to clean.

Fortunately, for many people, citizenship is a great deal more complex than that, Matty/et al. As the government is discovering at the moment. As you might one day grasp when you're not trolling. Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are borne here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

Born - not borne. You are a Muslim blow-in Brain. English is certainly not your first language.

Detain them and their families. Treason is treason.

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Reply #26 - Mar 1^st, 2015 at 10:58pm

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are borne here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

Born - not borne. You are a Muslim blow-in Brain. English is certainly not your first language.

Detain them and their families. Treason is treason.

It is, indeed, Soren. One what basis apart from an infringement of Section 116 of the Constitution would you be sure they were guilty of "treason"?

BTW, I detected the added "e" at the end of "born" before I'd even read your post and corrected it... Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 7:42pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 10:58pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 7:30pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 1^st, 2015 at 4:43pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

two minutes hate wrote on Feb 28^th, 2015 at 12:03pm:

Why do muslims move to countries and not want to follow the laws of the land? Stay the F home!!

Yeah, my sentiments entirely.

Send em the F home I say.

And what about Muslims whom are borne here? Do you allow them to enjoy their native citizenship?

Born - not borne. You are a Muslim blow-in Brain. English is certainly not your first language.

Detain them and their families. Treason is treason.

It is, indeed, Soren.

On what basis apart from an infringement of Section 116 of the Constitution would you be sure they were guilty of "treason"?

EXAMPLE #1,

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"[a respected moslem community spokesman has] called on Australian Muslims to spurn secular democracy and Western notions of moderate Islam...

...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.

"We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/australia-members-of-hizb-ut-tahrir-say-countr...

EXAMPLE #2,

Watch a group of moslem children, being coached by moslem adults, to hate Australia, and Australians,
......HERE, WITHIN AUSTRALIA. !!!!

And of course this cultural coaching of moslem children is all happening behind closed doors, and out of the public eye.

Muslims brainwash children in Australia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E

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"...[moslems in Australia were told] that democracy is "haram" (forbidden) for Muslims, whose political engagement should be be based purely on Islamic law.

"We must adhere to Islam and Islam alone," Mr Hanif [said]"

QUESTION;

WHAT IS NOT HARAM TO MOSLEMS IN AUSTRALIA ?

ANSWER;

The

MURDER!

of those who are not moslems [and reject ISLAM].

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1424590530/17#17
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The heart of ISLAM is the Koran

[and heart of the Koran, is the ideas and ideals it contains].

SO WHAT DOES THE KORAN SAY ABOUT MOSLEMS LIVING IN PEACE WITH DISBELIEVERS ? ;

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Yadda said....
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ISLAMIC LAW teaches - EVERY MOSLEM - that murdering those who are not moslems [i.e. those who reject ISLAM], is a lawful act.

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of [i.e. for] those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:.."
Koran 4.74-76

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06

ISLAMIC LAW....
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 42248	Re: pushy arrogant muslim Reply #28 - Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 7:45pm Your examples are only of what individuals have said, Y. Keep trying, your Islamophobia will I am sure provide you with other examples...
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Reply #29 - Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 7:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 7:45pm:

Your examples are only of what individuals have said, Y.

Keep trying, your Islamophobia will I am sure provide you with other examples... Roll Eyes

Brian Ross,

QUESTION;

How many of those moslem individuals who have behaved in a criminal manner [the examples cited my post, #27] were actually charged with any criminal offence ?

The government of Australia and our security services, have been remiss in chasing moslems [in Australia] who have been promoting and encouraging sedition and treason against Australia.

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1425098208/29#29
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The security services know of these people, and [by now!] they should know that simply BEING A MOSLEM and expressing support for ISIS, is tantamount to promoting sedition / treason against Australia.

And yet the government of Australia, and our security services, are not prepared to do a single PRACTICAL thing against these people.

And that absolutely stinks, imo.

The government and all of its agencies are, imo, complicit in facilitating every single incident of moslem violence that has occurred within Australia in recent years - - e.g. the stabbing of those two Victorian police officers, and the Martin Place outrage, etc.

And why ?

Because NOBODY IN AUTHORITY, NOBODY WITH THE AUTHORITY TO PROTECT Australia and it citizens, is prepared to do a single practical thing to counter the violent influence of ISLAM within Australia.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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