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Reply #15 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:34am
 
Soren wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:10pm:
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as if Putin would be so sloppy. 



How is this sloppy?


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Mr Putin, who has taken personal charge of the investigation, was quoted by the Kremlin as saying the crime "had all the hallmarks of a contract killing and is entirely provocative in nature", suggesting it was aimed at smearing the authorities.

The last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, also said the killing was aimed at "destabilising the situation in the country, at heightening confrontation" with the West.



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Reply #16 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 11:38am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 10:07am:


Is that a non lethal tranquiliser gun peccahead?
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Reply #17 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 12:33pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:40am:
How can the prime suspect be in charge of the investigation?




its Russias version of being bipartisan  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

now you know what ever the result is..... that will be final.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

probable conclusion..

he was shot




Putin is an evil murderous dictator.


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Reply #18 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 12:40pm
 
facts and footage

before its erased



Boris Nemtsov Murder Caught On CCTV Camera

Published on Feb 28, 2015
www.undergroundworldnews.com

The murder of Boris Nemtsov that took place on a bridge in central Moscow overnight on Friday was caught on an all-weather camera belonging to TVC television. The low-resolution video hints that the killer may have been waiting for Nemtsov at the bridge.

The camera captured a wide shot of Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge, near the Kremlin, where the crime took place. The quality of the footage is only good enough to distinguish the cars on the bridge and the figures of people moving along it.

http://rt.com/news/236531-nemtsov-murder-cctv-russia/
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Reply #19 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 4:47pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 6:58am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
I'm surprised that Obama, Abbott, Julie Bishop and Shorty haven't pointed the finger at Mr Putin yet.

This should be a good excuse to put more sanctions on Russia.



well we know if it was Putin who was killed you would be out there blaming Ob ama ABbott Bishop............ Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

whats the difference?.. we know putin is your mate and can do no wrong.. but really pansi????





But he's not my mate I just admire his tenacity and political skill. I would never want to be on the wrong side of Putin, he doesn't pull any punches, but I still think he didn't shoot the deputy opposition leader, apparently he was no threat to Putin as far as taking over leadership.


So.....are you pointing the finger at Putin without any real evidence? That's not nice.

If Abbott was shot in the back four times, would you automatically tyblame Shor?



yes... but make that a knife.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #20 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 4:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 12:33pm:
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 8:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:40am:
How can the prime suspect be in charge of the investigation?




its Russias version of being bipartisan  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

now you know what ever the result is..... that will be final.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

probable conclusion..

he was shot






Putin is an evil murderous dictator.


http://www.rhinoconservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Fox_henhouse02.jpg



there is going to be a massive MARCH through Moscow tomorrow Bobs maybe Vlad will lead...

this has got to be an inside job...and we know Vlad cant stand anyone not agreeing with him.. Wink Wink

how many is this that have met an unfortunate end..since Vlad came to POWER.. Angry
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Reply #21 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm
 
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.
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Reply #22 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 6:00pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 4:47pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 6:58am:
cods wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:22pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Feb 28th, 2015 at 6:02pm:
I'm surprised that Obama, Abbott, Julie Bishop and Shorty haven't pointed the finger at Mr Putin yet.

This should be a good excuse to put more sanctions on Russia.



well we know if it was Putin who was killed you would be out there blaming Ob ama ABbott Bishop............ Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

whats the difference?.. we know putin is your mate and can do no wrong.. but really pansi????





But he's not my mate I just admire his tenacity and political skill. I would never want to be on the wrong side of Putin, he doesn't pull any punches, but I still think he didn't shoot the deputy opposition leader, apparently he was no threat to Putin as far as taking over leadership.


So.....are you pointing the finger at Putin without any real evidence? That's not nice.

If Abbott was shot in the back four times, would you automatically tyblame Shor?



yes... but make that a knife.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Our pollies get knifed in the back by their own team here, they don't need the opposition to do it for them.....metaphorically speaking.
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Reply #23 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 6:33pm
 
Were there any Dingoes in the security footage?
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Reply #24 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:10pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.



I think most put Putin at No 1 and maybe 5 6 7

Grin Grin

Tony is too busy getting our money back from Widodo

so he can kill those people with a clear conscience..
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Reply #25 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:30pm
 
Did the US Murder Boris Nemtsov? The Imminent Threat
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By: Joaquin Flores

Headlines around the world have carried some variation of the story: the murder of Boris Nemtsov.  Each of these includes some retelling of the pertinent facts: what, who, where, how … but the real question is ‘why’.  The answer to this question, or rather, what the West insists is the answer, will tell us a lot about the US’s plans to escalate the tensions in Russia over Ukraine, and beyond.


It would be foolish to set aside any hypothesis about this being motivated by people close to him, in the realm of business, politics, or romance.   In anything related to business dealings, we might recall that any number of people probably wanted him dead due to his criminality and corruption while serving as director of the now liquidated Neftyanoi Bank, and as chairman of its parent company Neftyanoi Concern.

Much controversy surrounded this affair back in 2006.  Of course in the realm of romantic problems, we have significantly those surrounding the woman he was last seen with.  This woman, Anna Duritskaya, was also present during the shooting. Rumors are floating around that this could do with her recent abortion and surrounding points of melodrama.

An obvious link with this case is the ongoing turmoil in Ukraine, but in one variation—this killing may have been motivated by an internal dispute between pro-US factions there. Nemtsov was connected with the US-backed “Orange Revolution”, and Victor Yuschenko, who was appointed as an economic advisor then, left under suspicious circumstances and more enemies than friends.

Among any of these could very well be the motive of the killer or those behind him, but the timing of this shooting and other pertinent facts should lead us to consider that this was politically motivated.

These plots can actually be somewhat complex, and it is often the case that two birds are killed with one stone.  A personal rival can be given a green light to settle a score, and also accomplish something of larger geostrategic significance such as this.

But to the point, here we are looking at whether this was carried out on the orders of one of the major players in the present world turmoil.  Concretely, the question is whether this was carried out by the Russians and their friends, or by the US and their friends and numerous “assets”.



Whether the actual shooting was done by contract or not, is also not very important except when looking at the forensics of the crime scene, and the immediate circumstances themselves.  These might tell us a few things, except that in cases such as this we must always be mindful that looking like an unprofessional job – such as in this case – would be something a professional would do to throw off the scent.

For example, we are likely to hear from friends of Russia that this killing does not have the telltale signs of a professional type of hit, the sort that a government would carry out.  They will point out that, if chased by Kremlin assassins, Boris Nemtsov would have died in a car crash, or from a heart attack.  It is considered far too sloppy for anyone in the Kremlin to think of shooting him in public, with witnesses ready at hand. The CIA experts would surely agree.

Recapping: such clean methods would actually seem to implicate the Russian state, whereas the rather sloppy way Nemtsov was actually killed would force us to rule this out.  But by that same logic, if a hit of this sort were to be carried out, then it would make perfect sense for the state to use an “amateur” looking method. In the case of the US,  a different objective must be served. If the US was behind this, the murder would have to be “obvious”, messy, ugly, leaving behind few doubts.

Indeed, if the Russians had wanted Nemtsov dead, the value of killing him would have been in his absence.  But if the Americans were to kill him, the value would be in the spectacle of the killing itself.  This killing is loaded with spectacle.

While one can argue that Russia could have employed someone to use sloppy methods in order to throw off the scent, it is more likely that given the method, the choreography, the US is probably behind it.  The deed itself could have been arranged through Ukrainian assets, which the CIA and other NATO nations now have in abundance, and would not have involved actual US agents on the ground in Moscow.

Thus this act in “broad daylight” was very clearly a murder meant to be  known as a murder.  This does not fit into either a Russian motive or modus operandi.

Cui bono??
The deeper questions surrounding any case of this sort seem to confirm the above.

The first question we must ask is ‘cui bono’. In this case we know that Russia, in particular Putin, had nothing to gain.  The killing of Nemtsov under any circumstances does not make any sense from the view of a Russian or Putin interest. Politically, and alive, he did not pose a real threat.  With less than 5%, his ticket and the Republican Party failed to garner enough support to get a seat in the Duma.  And, again, with approval ratings above 85%, Putin scarcely needs to resort to these kinds of tactics, which, in any case, despite his legions of slanderers, paid and amateur, he would be loath to employ anyhow. Putin is not a tinhorn dictator, but the head of a powerful and complex nation..

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Reply #26 - Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:33pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.



Of course it was Putin who did it.
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Reply #27 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 9:01am
 
Bobby. wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 10:33pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.



Of course it was Putin who did it.



.it could have been the Ukraine seems they are capable of doing just about anything to shoot themselves in the foot...

then theres the dreaded yanks....and even the CHinese so many to choose from these days
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Reply #28 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:10pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:10pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.



I think most put Putin at No 1 and maybe 5 6 7

Grin Grin

Tony is too busy getting our money back from Widodo

so he can kill those people with a clear conscience..




I wonder what he'll do with it? Surely it should go to aid somewhere else. Maybe he'll pass it on to Cambodia, they can't get enough now they're taking our asylum seeker castaways.
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Reply #29 - Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:19pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 2nd, 2015 at 4:10pm:
cods wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:10pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Mar 1st, 2015 at 5:56pm:
There's a couple of possibilities.

1. Ukraine military to make it looke like a Putin attack, like the downing of the MH 17.

2. Russian separatists because they don't like opposition to Putin's Russia.

3. CIA under orders from Obama, he's been trying to bring down Russia for a while now, but Putin has outsmarted him every time.

4. Mossad, because they're usually behind every evil event.

5. Putin because of Nemtsov's leaning towards Ukraine.

6. Some crazy drunken, drugged Russian dudes that hated the bloke.

7. Tony Abbott because if you don't know who did it, blame Tony.



I think most put Putin at No 1 and maybe 5 6 7

Grin Grin

Tony is too busy getting our money back from Widodo

so he can kill those people with a clear conscience..




I wonder what he'll do with it? Surely it should go to aid somewhere else. Maybe he'll pass it on to Cambodia, they can't get enough now they're taking our asylum seeker castaways.



I thought that was PNG.... what happened to that lot?...best ask krudd it was his idea.

I would like to think the money would go towards paying off our massive debt....bugger these countries that forever have their hands out for more....they are the ones doing very nicely from all this CLIMATE CHANGE crap..thats as well as getting foreign aid..

blimey they never stop wanting more..

mind you lefties never want to know where the money goes do you????.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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