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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading Reply #90 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:50pm these 2 are idiots, theres no intelligent discussion to be had with either Soren or Sprint, dont know why you bother.
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Reply #91 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 10:58pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

I've lived here all my life Sprint - to where should I go?

Is it fair that a citizen who has committed no crime in his life should be deported for no other reason than holding beliefs that you find offensive?

And yes, I do feel ashamed for stooping to this insane discussion.

What are the offensive views that you value above the good of fitting in with your fellow Australians?
Why are they more important to you than social cohesion and solidarity with your fellow citizens?
What makes you value these offensive views higher than the ideas that binds you to your fellow Australians?

Please explain.

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Reply #92 - Mar 4^th, 2015 at 11:00pm

rhino wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:50pm:

these 2 are idiots, theres no intelligent discussion to be had with either Soren or Sprint, dont know why you bother.

You have never come close to making an intelligent point so I don't think you can make such a call.

SHow me an intelligent post of our and prove me wrong, there's a good boy.

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Reply #93 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 5:25am

Soren wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 10:58pm:

What are the offensive views that you value above the good of fitting in with your fellow Australians?

logical fallacy - or what FD would call, a false dichotomy.

It is only you and your fellow minority of extremists who consider my beliefs offensive, so I guess its a question you need to answer, not me.

How about you Soren, do you agree with Sprint that law-abiding citizens should be deported to a place they have never been for the high crime of having beliefs?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #94 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 8:22am

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

I've lived here all my life Sprint - to where should I go?

Is it fair that a citizen who has committed no crime in his life should be deported for no other reason than holding beliefs that you find offensive?

And yes, I do feel ashamed for stooping to this insane discussion.

to an islamic country.
iran, iraque, SAE, north sudan I belive might suit you.

Somewhere where a strict ideology overrules and oppresses everything.

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Resolute Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 730	Re: Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading Reply #95 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 8:26am "Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading" No need for that, just put her in front of a mirror, she'll turn to stone in the wink of an eye.......
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Reply #96 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 8:30am

rhino wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:43pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:29pm:

I do not go to a psych clinic.

See how easy it is to answer ?

Heres one of the best pieces of advice you are going to get in this lifetime. Go.

I do not abuse you and I answer your questions directly.
I would appreciate the same.

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Reply #97 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:00pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 8:22am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 9:46pm:

I've lived here all my life Sprint - to where should I go?

Is it fair that a citizen who has committed no crime in his life should be deported for no other reason than holding beliefs that you find offensive?

And yes, I do feel ashamed for stooping to this insane discussion.

to an islamic country.
iran, iraque, SAE, north sudan I belive might suit you.

Somewhere where a strict ideology overrules and oppresses everything.

Not sure where "iraque" is, but why on earth would you think it might suit me? I actually value our freedoms and tolerance. I am not the one demanding that one particular group of Australians are not welcome here, and that their places of worship should be razed to the ground. In contrast I condemn in the strongest terms the places you list for their lack of freedoms and intolerance - the exact sort of intolerance that you, sprint, exhibit. How ironic, its not me that is suited to those places, its actually you.

How about it Sprint? Why don't *YOU* move to somewhere that is more in line with your intolerant values, because they are most definitely not in line with Australian values.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40716 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading Reply #98 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:08pm those countries you do not wish to live in are islamic countries. I cannot imagine why you would not want to live with 100% of your own kind. What's the matter with them ? Australians do not want muslims here.
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Reply #99 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:34pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

What's the matter with them ?

They are completely opposed to my values. Thats whats wrong.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that a muslim can value freedom as much as any non-muslim? Even as a muslim, the non-muslim west gives me far more freedom to practice the islamic faith than do almost any islamic country. I value that, and I don't believe its fair to call on me to leave simply on the basis of my personal beliefs - beliefs which you demonstrably grossly misunderstand. When a citizen of a nation demonstrates very clearly their loyalty and embrace the values that define that nation - you have no right to say that citizen is not welcome and should move to some oppressive hell-hole - for no other reason than you are offended by what you think are my personal beliefs.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:08pm:

Australians do not want muslims here.

Show me a single survey demonstrating that this is a majority view.

"Australians" don't believe that mosques in Australia should be randomly razed to the ground as reprisal for terrorist attacks, "Australians" do not believe all muslims in Australia should be deported - only you do sprint, and "Australians" would be appalled at your views.

I think you are a complete hypocrite for claiming that muslims do not belong here - its you and your views that do not belong here.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40716 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading Reply #100 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:45pm as they and you are both muslims, the values cannot be opposite. you say islamic countries allows you much less freedom than the west does. that's why i dislike islam. by the evidence it is oppressive. judge a tree by the fruit it bears. islam bears bad fruit. as you have confessed.
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Reply #101 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 3:02pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 8:33pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 3:32pm:

|dev|null wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:59pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 4^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:

What mosque do you go to ?

Why, do you want to blow it up?

Afterall, that is your usual message Sprint! Grin

Sprint has stated his desire for Australian mosques to be razed to the ground - several times.

So I don't think its advisable for any muslim to tell him what mosque they attend.

I think they should all leave Australia.

As well as burning/razing/bombing their Mosques and dwellings Sprint! Or had you forgotten all that? Grin

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\|dev\|null Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4434 Gender:	Re: Jacqui Lambie threatened with beheading Reply #102 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 3:33pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:08pm: those countries you do not wish to live in are islamic countries. I cannot imagine why you would not want to live with 100% of your own kind. What's the matter with them ? Australians do not want muslims here. I am an Australian. I do want Muslims here!
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Reply #103 - Mar 5^th, 2015 at 9:29pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 5^th, 2015 at 12:45pm:

as they and you are both muslims, the values cannot be opposite.

you say islamic countries allows you much less freedom than the west does.

that's why i dislike islam. by the evidence it is oppressive.

judge a tree by the fruit it bears. islam bears bad fruit.
as you have confessed.

Some free advise from a muslim sprint - if you are bold enough to take it...

Judge people by what they actually say and do, not what you think their personal beliefs are.

Condemn oppressive muslims - as I do. But acknowledge the good ones, and don't fall in the trap of painting all muslims with the same brush. There are a great many muslims who are good decent people - and whats more (and this is the bit I want to stress) they believe the islamic religion is the path to goodness and decency. Give credit for that, even if you don't share their doctrinal views. Don't become a grumpy old Yadda.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #104 - Mar 6^th, 2015 at 7:57am

I do accept what others say.
We have had this sort of discussion many times.

If you believe in islam. Live in an islamic country.
If you are correct, that must be better for you.

Islam is a cult. It is an armed political movement invented by a man who was not mentioned in the bible.

I accept what you say. I just think you cannot observe islam or moh with a rational mind.

The evidence from islam says its incompatible with freedom and liberty.
I listen to that also.

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