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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #240 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96561	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #241 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 2:27pm polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm: I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make. Don't play coy with us, Moslem. We all know your sinister prophet told you to dislike Jews. Why else would he have tortured that Jew for his gold?
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Reply #242 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 8:13pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

Soren wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2015 at 5:28pm:

But you do not want toi hear what you do not endorse - typical and is the root of your problem with free speech.

Funny thing to say to someone who comes here day after day to listen to your tripe - and then tries to debate it calmly and rationally (a futile pursuit it seems).

Anyway it just so happened there was an interesting article in today's Oz by Ms Hirsi. Interesting because her criticisms of islam could hardly be more different to your own. She takes the view that the problem muslims are those who actually create problems - the islamists, the jihadists and the sharia advocates. Not the people who are guilty of the high crime of wearing a beard or a hijab. In fact she draws a very clear distinction between what she terms the "Mecca muslims" and the "Medina muslims". The Mecca muslims are the good decent, peaceful muslims - and are in the overwhelming majority. The Medina muslims are the small minority of islamists and jihadists. She doesn't believe that the Mecca muslims should be targeted and harassed just because of what they wear or what they look like - no, they should be engaged and encouraged to participate in the campaign to marginalise the Medina muslims. Its the sort of argument you have toyed with in the past - before you descended into your current "items of clothing and facial hair is the real enemy" spewtem.

It takes an apostate to explain all that, doesn't it. In any case I cannot tell a Mecca Muslim apart from a Medina one. Nor could you until Hirsi Ali explained it to you. But I am glad you are being intellectually guided by a fearless apostate.

And it's not for me to delve into the intricacies of your tribal and religious disputes. It is for you to actively fit in and actively assimilate. This is neither Mecca nor Medina and most of us do not care for either, nor for the feuds their signify. I do not want to be required to be up on Islam's bloody history. Leave it behind, fit in, prove that you can rise above it.

Or go back to Araby and play Mecca and Medina Islam there if that is more important and you can't leave it well alone and behind you. Do not drag me into Islam's bloody disputes. Not until I go to Islam. You are not here, in the UK, Europe, North America, etc, to keep that sh!te alive everywhere you go.

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Reply #243 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 9:20pm

Soren wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 8:13pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 10:34am:

Soren wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2015 at 5:28pm:

But you do not want toi hear what you do not endorse - typical and is the root of your problem with free speech.

Funny thing to say to someone who comes here day after day to listen to your tripe - and then tries to debate it calmly and rationally (a futile pursuit it seems).

Anyway it just so happened there was an interesting article in today's Oz by Ms Hirsi. Interesting because her criticisms of islam could hardly be more different to your own. She takes the view that the problem muslims are those who actually create problems - the islamists, the jihadists and the sharia advocates. Not the people who are guilty of the high crime of wearing a beard or a hijab. In fact she draws a very clear distinction between what she terms the "Mecca muslims" and the "Medina muslims". The Mecca muslims are the good decent, peaceful muslims - and are in the overwhelming majority. The Medina muslims are the small minority of islamists and jihadists. She doesn't believe that the Mecca muslims should be targeted and harassed just because of what they wear or what they look like - no, they should be engaged and encouraged to participate in the campaign to marginalise the Medina muslims. Its the sort of argument you have toyed with in the past - before you descended into your current "items of clothing and facial hair is the real enemy" spewtem.

It takes an apostate to explain all that, doesn't it. In any case I cannot tell a Mecca Muslim apart from a Medina one. Nor could you until Hirsi Ali explained it to you. But I am glad you are being intellectually guided by a fearless apostate.

And it's not for me to delve into the intricacies of your tribal and religious disputes. It is for you to actively fit in and actively assimilate. This is neither Mecca nor Medina and most of us do not care for either, nor for the feuds their signify. I do not want to be required to be up on Islam's bloody history. Leave it behind, fit in, prove that you can rise above it.

Or go back to Araby and play Mecca and Medina Islam there if that is more important and you can't leave it well alone and behind you. Do not drag me into Islam's bloody disputes. Not until I go to Islam. You are not here, in the UK, Europe, North America, etc, to keep that sh!te alive everywhere you go.

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Reply #244 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:11pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Probably any muslims that follow the Quran I'd say. I would imagine there are not many muslims that don't.

Quran (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve

Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves

Quran (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fights against them. How perverse are they!

Quran (8:12) - I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them

Quran (9:123) - O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness

Quran (5:33) - The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Reply #245 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:15pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Probably any muslims that follow the Quran I'd say. I would imagine there are not many muslims that don't.

yes. Imagination, a wonderful thing. Not reality though. Most Muslims dont follow the Koran just as most Christians dont follow the Bible. Does this surprise you?

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Reply #246 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:25pm

rhino wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Probably any muslims that follow the Quran I'd say. I would imagine there are not many muslims that don't.

yes. Imagination, a wonderful thing. Not reality though. Most Muslims dont follow the Koran just as most Christians dont follow the Bible. Does this surprise you?

You are right imagination is a wonderful thing.

They wouldn't be muslims if they don't hold allahs words sacred. Does this surprise you ?

The Christians are sinners saved through Christ. Muslims are not saved they must follow their law or they are not muslim.

Do some cursory research.

I am sure the apologist gandalf can put an apologetic spin on his religion for you that he calls islam. It should be here later on today.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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Reply #247 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:29pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:25pm:

rhino wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:15pm:

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:11pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 1:36pm:

I have no idea how many muslims dislike jews, and I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

Probably any muslims that follow the Quran I'd say. I would imagine there are not many muslims that don't.

yes. Imagination, a wonderful thing. Not reality though. Most Muslims dont follow the Koran just as most Christians dont follow the Bible. Does this surprise you?

They wouldn't be muslims if they don't hold allahs words sacred. Does this surprise you ?

The Christians are sinners saved through Christ. Muslims are not saved they must follow their law.

Do some cursory research.

I think you must live in a bubble. Most Muslims dont follow the Koran, thats just a fact. Why do you have a problem with facts?

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #248 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:32pm It went in one ear and straight out the other didn't it. My post was clear enough if you don't understand it there is not much more I can tell you. Go have a google on what a muslim actually is. Cheers
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Reply #249 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:47pm

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:32pm:

It went in one ear and straight out the other didn't it. My post was clear enough if you don't understand it there is not much more I can tell you.

Go have a google on what a muslim actually is.

Cheers

most Muslims dont follow the Koran. I know you dont want to believe this, but it is the truth. get out into the world, get some life experience, grow up a little and you will be better for it. i understand you are are scared, but your fear is based on ignorance.

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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #250 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:49pm Cool story Einstein hell next time you may even understand what a muslim is. Oh I know pedophiles hiding in catholic boys school waving a christian flag are all christians. ROFL. Anyone can wave a muslim flag and have nuts like you think they are. Learn what one is and come back. Google it aint that hard.
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #251 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:50pm i dont need to google. I have life experience.
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SweetLambo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1271	Re: How to deal with ISIS Aussies? Reply #252 - Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:52pm rhino wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:50pm: i dont need to google. I have life experience. Oh in that case next weeks lotto results please.
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Reply #253 - Mar 25^th, 2015 at 12:02am

SweetLambo wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:52pm:

rhino wrote on Mar 24^th, 2015 at 11:50pm:

i dont need to google. I have life experience.

Oh in that case next weeks lotto results please.

i didnt claim to be a fortune teller, seems like you are out of your depth here and are trying to change the subject. Grow some balls and own what you post.

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Reply #254 - Mar 25^th, 2015 at 12:07am

I thought with all your first hand experience you would be able to work it out. After all its just physics.

I own all my posts, if you are too thick to understand them by all mean make out you know more than me and call people ignorant that don't share your opinion. I couldn't give a fat rats what you think or say.

Gee you must have big balls owning those posts.

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The quran was not written by allah unless allah has no knowledge of science and historical facts. No quran or prophet mohammed existed until 60 years after mohammed's death.

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