The problem with the travel issue is firstly these kids who make the journey are so secretive about it that mostly their own family are unaware of their plans. So its almost impossible for the authorities to keep tabs on potential IS recruits

So I think the first step to stopping IS recruitment on the international stage, is to apply far more pressure on Turkey

MumboJumbo wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 3:21pm:


As the Federal Government has discovered, citizenship is a much more nebulous concept than most people realise.  It barely rates a mention in our own Constitution and internationally it is important, so important than it is mentioned in nearly every international convention and treaty we are a member of, so simply destroying it for one of our citizens is a lot harder than most people realise, legally and morally.

I'd recommend that instead of getting rid of their citizenship we should allow them to keep it.  Prevent them from claiming Centrelink payments overseas (obviously) and when they return to Australia, put them on trial for "materially aiding a listed organisation" or something similar and if they are found guilty, lock them up for the required stretch.   Stop everybody getting their knickers in a twist and treat it as what it is, simply a criminal event in an individual's life.

It is nice to see some useful contribution to the forum for a change!

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 4:42pm:



They may be like you and Gandalf but they are definitely not like me.

The security services know of these people, and [by now!] they should know that simply BEING A MOSLEM and expressing support for ISIS, is tantamount to promoting sedition / treason against Australia.

In fact i wish to propose a new law, be brought into being, here in Australia.

An i hope that every Australian will lobby their federal parliamentary representative, encouraging the Australian government/parliament enact this new law.

And this new law could be titled;


This law would require that EVERY PERSON in Australia, who was convicted of a criminal offence [within Australia], should [upon their death, in Australia];
1/ be required to be buried within Australia [i.e. no after death 'emigration'],
2/ and to be required to be buried embracing the carcass of a dead pig,
3/ the cost of the carcass of the dead pig, to be borne by the estate/family of the dead criminal.

If the estate/family of the dead criminal are too poor, and cannot afford the cost of the carcass of a dead pig, then the body of the dead convicted criminal will be embalmed using at least 10 litres of pigs blood - supplied 'by donation', by a fund subscribed to, by patriotic, law abiding Australians.


n.b.
Such a law, would have absolutely no effect upon any dead moslem person, if that dead moslem person was never convicted, of being involved in, or in planning a terrorist act, murder, inciting murder, promoting and encouraging sedition and/or treason, or, any other criminal act.

The law would apply to EVERY PERSON in Australia, but would only apply to the deceased remains of all convicted criminals.

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2015 at 4:42pm:




Yeah .......... nahh


If you're leaving Australia to join a group that would kill, mutilate and torture Australian servicemen / women, Australian aid workers or any other Australian if you got your hands on them; I would refer to you as many things, just not my fellow Australian.