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Reply #15 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:45pm
 


Dr Jamal Rifi makes the claim that ISLAM is
"our peaceful religion"
,       .....and that ignorant and bigoted people [i.e. people like ISIS] are responsible for demonising innocent members of the moslem community in Australia [i.e. in the eyes of their fellow Australians].

Dr Jamal Rifi seems to be suggesting, that the moslem community in Australia are [largely] innocents, who are being unfairly criticised and demonised, by many of their fellow Australians.



look here ---------- >

Easily debunking the lies about mainstream muslims

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411079882/3#3

or;
look here ---------- >

Google;
"our peaceful religion" - Dr Jamal Rifi




But the claim coming from Dr Jamal Rifi, that 'ISLAM is a peaceful religion', and that it is only the actions of some moslems [i.e. people like ISIS], which is bringing ISLAM into disrepute, are not believable.

Such claims, by Dr Jamal Rifi, are not credible.

Dr Jamal Rifi is either totally ignorant [about ISLAM's core teachings and core doctrines], or Dr Jamal Rifi is deliberately lying to us.

And how likely is it, that Dr Jamal Rifi, a moslem, and a spokesman for the moslem community in Australia, knows next to nothing about the core teachings and core doctrines of ISLAM ???



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ISLAM IS A VICIOUS, MURDEROUS AND DECEITFUL, DEATH CULT



Within its 'religious' texts, ISLAM declares TO THE WHOLE WORLD, that it is a DESIRABLE, and glorious death, for 'the moslem' who is killed fighting for Allah's cause [Allah's cause, being the murder and enslavement and oppression of all mankind].

ISLAM's adherents are taught - FROM CHILDHOOD - that to seek [their own] violent death, in Jihad [in Allah's cause], is a glorious and moral undertaking.

So it must be asked, how likely is it that Dr Jamal Rifi, a moslem, knows absolutely nothing about ISLAM's doctrines of Jihad and martyrdom ???



The 'ideal' of martyrdom [the 'ideal' of a moslem leaving his home, to go to the battlefield, to die, while fighting for Allah's cause] is promoted and encouraged throughout ISLAMIC 'religious' texts, e.g. the Hadith ------- >

"The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053

"The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.054

"The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.072





"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid [religious fighter] in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.046

In the Hadith verse above, Mohammed is reported as saying that for a moslem, religious fighting, is the same as a religious devotion.
i.e. Jihad [religious fighting], is as if a muslim 'fasts and prays continuously'.
And in Koran 9.111, Allah guarantees that a Mujahid [religious fighter] will enter Paradise, if he is killed, while seeking to kill Allah's enemies.



"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadith/bukhari/ #001.002.025
see also,
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.080i
hadith/bukhari/ #004.052.196


"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.025




Allah, in the Koran [also] praises the death of moslems, while seeking to kill his [Allah's] enemies ----- >


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111




Google;
jihad is the pinnacle of islam

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Re: Dr Jamal Rifi - is on ABC, Australia Story tonight
Reply #16 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 12:02am
 


'ISLAM is.....'

Google;
"our peaceful religion" - Dr Jamal Rifi


For a moment, lets just compare the 'protestations' by Dr Jamal Rifi, with the spoken words of another Australian born moslem ------- >




FILTHY, STINKING, DECEITFUL MOSLEMS!
     ------ >


EXAMPLE #1,

...

Quote:
Use children as troops, says cleric
January 18, 2007
SYDNEY'S most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.
Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool [Australia], delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold in Australia and overseas.
.........Sheik Feiz says in the video.
"We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
An Australian citizen born in Sydney who has spent the past year living in Lebanon, Sheik Feiz was exposed this week in a British documentary Undercover Mosque.
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).

"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."

......Sheik Feiz - who just two weeks ago said he felt like an "alien" in his own country - leads about 4000 followers through his Global Islamic Youth Centre in Sydney's southwest.
He also accused Australian authorities of being over-zealous in their approach to clerics like him.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php







NOW LISTEN TO THE EXACT SAME MOSLEM, Sheik Feiz Mohammed, AS HE SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - WHO HAVE BECOME AWARE OF HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENTS

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LISTEN TO, Sheik Feiz Mohammed, AS HE PROMOTES ISLAM AS A PEACEFUL RELIGION

.....just as people like Dr Jamal Rifi, and gandalf [on this forum], do.

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Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood;

Quote:

"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...

"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said.

"We denounce that.

This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-w...



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FILTHY, STINKING, DECEITFUL MOSLEMS!





QUESTION;

When any moslem [e.g. Dr Jamal Rifi] claims that 'ISLAM is a peaceful religion', how can we know, that their character is any different from a liar like Sheik Feiz Mohammed [see article above] ?

We cannot.



For a moslem like Dr Jamal Rifi to make the claim that ISLAM is
"our peaceful religion"
, thereby inferring to all, that ISLAM is a peaceful religion, is both offensive and absurd.

And making such a patently absurd claim, does Dr Jamal Rifi no credit.


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Re: Dr Jamal Rifi - is on ABC, Australia Story tonight
Reply #17 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:01am
 
Did you watch Australian Story, Y?

I'm curious.
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Re: Dr Jamal Rifi - is on ABC, Australia Story tonight
Reply #18 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 2:27pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:01am:

Did you watch Australian Story, Y?

I'm curious.



Yes i did!




And Dr Jamal Rifi, is a moslem.     [and he is playing the moslem victimhood card, in Australia, for all that it is worth, imo!]

And i was really disappointed to see Scott Morrison so effusively praising Dr Jamal Rifi on the Australian Story piece.

It saddened to see that Scott Morrison has been apparently 'taken in' by the arguments and rhetoric coming from the moslem community.



ISLAM is a philosophy which promotes and encourages moslems [who live within a stronger non-moslem jurisdiction] to engage in a relationship of veiled hostility towards that non-moslem jurisdiction.

And then when moslems individual 'fail to thrive' within any non-moslem jurisdiction, the moslem community en-masse claim victimhood status, and insistently claim that moslems are the victims of hostility and prejudice from non-moslems.






Quote:
July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."
Google



Google,
smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"



Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine




K,

I am quite certain that Dr Jamal Rifi knows very well, what ISLAM is,
       and that he knows and understands what ISLAM promotes, and what its 'intent' towards the host non-moslem jurisdiction is.

Dr Jamal Rifi, is a moslem.

Dr Jamal Rifi [like almost every moslem], would never denounce and renounce ISLAM, even though he is aware of its nefarious and evil nature.

To do such a thing would cost the 'good' Dr too much, socially, societally.

Dr Jamal Rifi, is a 'big man', in the moslem community, in Australia.





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Yadda wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 10:31am:

PROPOSITION;

Dr Jamal Rifi presents himself to us [to Australia], as a 'good and decent moslem', who loves, and is so grateful to Australia, and Australians.

If that is so, then why is a 'good and decent' person like Dr Jamal Rifi happy to belong to, and be a member of, the moslem community in Australia ?

I ask that question, because the moslem community support and promote a philosophy [ISLAM] which actually encourages its members [moslems!] to to fight against and murder [i.e. engage in religious violence, Jihad, against] those who reject ISLAM's 'invitation'.


QUESTIONS;
Why would a 'good and decent' person [such as Dr Jamal Rifi], defend such a murderous and intolerant philosophy [ISLAM] ?

Why would a 'good and decent' person [such as Dr Jamal Rifi], willingly be a member of a community of people, who support and promote the spread of a murderous and intolerant philosophy [ISLAM] ?






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'AGGRESSION IS SOMETHING ONLY INFIDELS DO'


Quote:

"......[resorting] to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of "opening" the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad. Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur'an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists. Unbelievers who stand in the way, CREATING OBSTACLES FOR THE DA'WA, ARE BLAMED FOR THIS STATE OF WAR, for the da'wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it.

IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE WHO RESIST ISLAM CAUSE WARS and are responsible for them.

.....Aggression is something only infidels do.

.....it is not seen as aggression or war when Muslims attack non-Muslims.

On the contrary, it is seen as aggression when non-Muslims resist the Islamization of their lands and thus "place obstacles in the way" of the spread of Islam.

They are defying the will of Allah.......subjugation to Islam alone can bring peace.....

......[To the ISLAMIST mind, 'aggression' is...] When non-Muslims do anything to preserve their culture and resist the Islamization of their country."


"ISLAM SEEKS PEACE - Oh really!"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1258072652/1#1

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Re: Dr Jamal Rifi - is on ABC, Australia Story tonight
Reply #19 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 4:41pm
 
Karnal wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 11:01am:
Did you watch Australian Story, Y?

I'm curious.


Yadda never leaves the house, of course he watched it.

Its not like he has a life
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Reply #20 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm
 
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Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)

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Reply #21 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:05pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/11/1227021/107794-ae2042b6-2122-11e...
Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)

JIHAD!!!!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin What a pack of nutters.
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Reply #22 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:39pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/11/1227021/107794-ae2042b6-2122-11e...
Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)



So all people who call themselves jesus, moses, abraham are good people?

Its just a name and has no bearing on the success of a individual.
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Reply #23 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:43pm
 
wally1 wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/11/1227021/107794-ae2042b6-2122-11e...
Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)



So all people who call themselves jesus, moses, abraham are good people?

Its just a name and has no bearing on the success of a individual.
Having the name Jihad is sure going to help him get a job and integrate into Australian society. He'll end up one very isolated person thanks to daddy.
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Reply #24 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:45pm
 
wally1 wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/11/1227021/107794-ae2042b6-2122-11e...
Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)



So all people who call themselves jesus, moses, abraham are good people?

Its just a name and has no bearing on the success of a individual.



Sure. Everyone knows that jihad is peace. We see it on ISIL videos every week.




Jihad:  a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty

Jesus:  "God saves."

Abraham: "Father of a multitude."




It's all the same. Islam is the Religion of Peace, no?



Do a Google image search of Jihad, Jesus and Abraham.  See if you notice any difference in the imagery. Only one of them has lots of weapons.
Can you guess which one?  Clue: it's not Jesus or Abraham.

Your time starts now.





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Reply #25 - Mar 10th, 2015 at 8:19pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:45pm:
wally1 wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 7:39pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/11/1227021/107794-ae2042b6-2122-11e...
Islamic community leader Jamal Rifi, with his sons Faisal and Jihad in Sydney, is urging Muslim parents to protect their children from radical influences
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/for-our-boys-gp-jamal-r...


Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.



(I know, I know, Jihad means Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, and Temperance all in one beautiful Arabic word, hijacked by dastardly headhackers)



So all people who call themselves jesus, moses, abraham are good people?

Its just a name and has no bearing on the success of a individual.



Sure. Everyone knows that jihad is peace. We see it on ISIL videos every week.




Jihad:  a holy war waged on behalf of Islam as a religious duty

Jesus:  "God saves."

Abraham: "Father of a multitude."




It's all the same. Islam is the Religion of Peace, no?



Do a Google image search of Jihad, Jesus and Abraham.  See if you notice any difference in the imagery. Only one of them has lots of weapons.
Can you guess which one?  Clue: it's not Jesus or Abraham.

Your time starts now.







You saying jesus had no weapons,LMAO
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Reply #27 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:18pm
 
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.


Soren, do you commend Dr Jamal for being outspoken in his criticism of radical islam and his efforts to promote peace and harmony within the islamic community?
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Reply #28 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:59pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.


Soren, do you commend Dr Jamal for being outspoken in his criticism of radical islam and his efforts to promote peace and harmony within the islamic community?


what he is saying is that if your called Jihad your more prone to violence.

for example.

Jihad bush
jihad netanyahu
jihad obama
jihad hilter
jihad putin
jihad breivik
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Reply #29 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 1:46pm
 
wally1 wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:59pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 11th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
Soren wrote on Mar 10th, 2015 at 6:26pm:
Mebbe not calling your kid jihad would be a way protecting him from, er..., radical influences.


Soren, do you commend Dr Jamal for being outspoken in his criticism of radical islam and his efforts to promote peace and harmony within the islamic community?


what he is saying is that if your called Jihad your more prone to violence.

for example.

Jihad bush
jihad netanyahu
jihad obama
jihad hilter
jihad putin
jihad breivik
Jihad Bin Laden, Jihad Hussein, Jihad ISIS Head Chopper.
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