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ABSOLUTE DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 9th, 2015 at 10:57am
 
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It was already known that the Abbott government had effectively forced Australian universities into supporting its higher education reform package, at the heart of which is university fee deregulation. Australian governments are notorious for underfunding higher education, which nevertheless earns a return of $6 for every public dollar invested: as a proportion of GDP, Australia invests less in higher education than New Zealand, Canada, most of Europe and the USA. Realistic about their prospects for future funding increases, the universities had to support the government's attempt to raise students' fees.

What most didn't know until last week was that the Abbott government is also trying to force Australia's scientific research community to support fee deregulation. Christopher Pyne has sought to tie the $150 million of funding to the National Collaborative Research Infrastructure Strategy (NCRIS), announced during last year's budget, to the passage of his higher education reform bill. The research community understood that the $150 million was all but guaranteed. There is now every prospect that it will fail to materialise if, as is expected, the Senate blocks the fee deregulation bill again.

And if that happens, there are 27 major research facilities across the country that will effectively have no funding after June this year. Hundreds if not thousands of postgraduate and early career researchers depend on the NCRIS - which facilitates research partnerships between industry, government and universities - for their positions, and there are fears many of them will have to seek work overseas. Scientists attended a Senate estimates hearing on Friday to make their case for funding certainty. This is not the first time the government has sought to effectively blackmail researchers into supporting its policy agenda in another area: the new $20 billion medical research fund was initially contingent upon the GP co-payment passing the Senate.

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http://www.themonthly.com.au/politicoz/march/1425861334/consultative-collegial-b...


I suppose this is payback for those nasty scientists telling companies & governments that sh!tting in our own nest might be bad for us PUBLICLY instead of a quite word.

How anyone can continue to support this rabble is beyond me.

P.S You'll notice there is no mention of CC just all funding, that would include cancer research etc, but hey it might be a population control method by stealth, with 1 in 3 of us statistically likely to get the disease if we go back to bleeding & leeches theres population cut down by a 3rd.
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Reply #1 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:16am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 10:57am:
How anyone can continue to support this rabble is beyond me.


Because they're grown-ups, Smithy. We erected them to end the toxic chaos.

You must admit, Mr Abbott has done a superb job so far.

Everyone in his ministry is over 18.
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Reply #2 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am
 
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.
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Reply #3 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:31am
 
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free..


The Climate Council's now working for free, dear. Mr Abbott axed them too.

It's now staffed by volunteers.
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Reply #4 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:36am
 
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.

It's not a money tree, cods ... all that has to be done is to haul the capitalist pigs from the top end of town away from the trough of public funds where they have been gorging themselves silly for years.
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Reply #5 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:41am
 
I was thinking this would be a thread about our politicians holding a candlelight vigil.


Or maybe the tuck shop worker / premier giving the bikies the green light.

Or NSW labor sticking up for the feather bedding unionists in the electricity networks.

The main disgrace about the climate commission was that they probably paid Mr Flannery a million dollars and he couldn't even be bothered shaving for work

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Reply #6 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:58am
 
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.


Well gee I heard the $7 co payment was for the budget woes when 1st mentioned.

Did you also note we spend less funding for Uni's than the Liberal ideal "The USA"

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Australia invests less in higher education than New Zealand, Canada, most of Europe and the USA.


As for your usual partisan crap the money should come from out TAXES
Our TAXES fund the society we want.
As I've told other posters Cods, you don't want to pay taxes
Move to Somalia or some such country.

No? of course you don't want that you want exactly what you've got & more for nothing.

Q the I'm old & paid taxes so I deserve it line Angry
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Reply #7 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:02pm
 
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.


the co payment was for a futures fund to be used in 20yrs time, not now .. what has that to do with scrapping current funding?
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Reply #8 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:02pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:58am:
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.


Well gee I heard the $7 co payment was for the budget woes when 1st mentioned.



That's what Cods thought too. She seems to have come around.
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Reply #9 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:16pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:58am:
cods wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 11:22am:
funny though everyone went mad when he asked for $7 a visit to a doctor to put more funding into research as scientists refuse to work for free.. and because we are in a complete mess when its comes to debt and going down the drain at a rapid rate..

I guess the money has come.....................maybe when he finds the ALPs money tree all will be solved.


Well gee I heard the $7 co payment was for the budget woes when 1st mentioned.

Did you also note we spend less funding for Uni's than the Liberal ideal "The USA"

Quote:
Australia invests less in higher education than New Zealand, Canada, most of Europe and the USA.


As for your usual partisan crap the money should come from out TAXES
Our TAXES fund the society we want.
As I've told other posters Cods, you don't want to pay taxesMove to Somalia or some such country.

No? of course you don't want that you want exactly what you've got & more for nothing.

Q the I'm old & paid taxes so I deserve it line Angry



Money paid in taxes is used by the government to provide services through the bureaucracy staffed by public servants.
this is an inefficient way to improve peoples lives.

As our low taxing Asian neighbours have shown, with much bigger boosts in growth, real wages and productivity, the private sector will always outperform the government sector .

As such, the beast (Canberra) should be starved.

The correct model for a happy successful country is to give out as much in tax cuts as possible. then balance the budget by reducing the size of government.

when private hospitals, private schools, private telecommunications, private electricity providers, private toll roads all consistently out perform the government sector, then this policy is the policy of a "clever ' country.

If you want government control of everything, move to north korea.
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Reply #10 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:17pm
 
Yes, that's right. Just scab the funding off the tax payer.
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Reply #11 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:18pm
 
University administrators all agree that universities need more funding to provide world class degrees. Money does'nt grow on trees, does it? I know leftards, let's get the workers to pay for the degrees of bludging students. What do you think of that idea?
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Reply #12 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:20pm
 
two minutes hate wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
University administrators all agree that universities need more funding to provide world class degrees. Money does'nt grow on trees, does it? I know leftards, let's get the workers to pay for the degrees of bludging students. What do you think of that idea?


Good idea, Homo. Then you could go to uni and have a nice old bludge.
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Reply #13 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:23pm
 
I went to university Carnal (although i did'nt finish). Paid as I went. Because I WORK. Remember that old fashioned idea. Paying YOUR own way. Who needs that in the age of entitlement, right, Carnal?
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Reply #14 - Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Mar 9th, 2015 at 12:16pm:
The correct model for a happy successful country is to give out as much in tax cuts as possible. then balance the budget by reducing the size of government.

when private hospitals, private schools, private telecommunications, private electricity providers, private toll roads all consistently out perform the government sector, then this policy is the policy of a "clever ' country.

If you want government control of everything, move to north korea.



No need I could just move to the USA & have exactly that.

How are they travelling?

Seen any reports on the insurance company refusing people medical treatment?

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/sicko/


Seen any reports on infrastructure collasping?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/a/#p/grade-sheet/gpa

What about student debt(funny how Joe's solution to unburden future generations involves placing them in massive PERSONAL debt.



What about sh!tting in their/our own nest for private profit




But thanks for the extreme rebuttal in the absence of any reasonable argument.
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