And the demo for which THOUSANDS of Muslims actually did turn up?

The anti free speech demo in London.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944946/Thousands-British-Muslims-protes...
No mere 'liney thoughts' there, oh no.






You're opposed to free speech? Step right this way.

Meanwhile a group of tribal leaders presented a petition to Number 10 Downing Street which they said had been signed by 100,000 UK Muslims criticising publications which ‘sow the seeds of hatred’.  The gathering blocked off Whitehall and saw crowds flowing around the cenotaph and the statues of Viscount Alanbrooke and Montgomery of Alamein.  Among the speakers was one Shaykh Tauqir Ishaw, a spokesman for the organisers who said:

‘Perpetual mistakes by extremists, either by cold-blooded killers or uncivilised expressionists, cannot be the way forward for a civilised society.

The peace-loving majority of people must become vociferous in promoting global civility and responsible debate. At this time of heightened tension and emotion, it is crucial that both sides show restraint to prevent further incidents of this nature occurring.’

Of course much though these fanatics may like to pretend otherwise there are no ‘two sides’ of the same coin going on here.  The ‘expressionists’ and the ‘terrorists’ are not ‘as bad as each other’.  The only two things which are in fact conjoined are the people who use guns and bombs to terrorise people for exercising their rights as free Europeans and the very large number of people from the ‘moderate majority’ who back up such violence (even while, like yesterday’s speakers, claiming to deplore it) with warnings that non-Muslims should be ‘careful’ when addressing their religion.

The interesting thing about this is that if you compare the photos from yesterday in London and the photos of protests during the Satanic Verses affair twenty-six years ago you will see that nothing has improved in this country.  If anything it has got far worse.  Why is that?  Why is it that in 2015 a crowd of thousands and a petition of a hundred thousand citizens can understand so little about the country they live in, its traditions and freedoms, that they would even think of petitioning the Prime Minister of Britain about cartoons in a French newspaper?
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It could have gone so much better if at any point since 1989 a political leader of any party had found the guts to say, ‘These are the rules here, and these are our traditions.  If you don’t like them then hop it.’  But no one has.  And that is why, in 2015, Britain has learnt nothing and progressed nowhere on all this.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2015/02/these-are-the-rules-here-and...

Figured this deserves a thread of its own.

One thing I would say is I don't think muslims would object to this issue so much if the western governments weren't so hypocritical. As I have mentioned before, France has one of the most draconian laws against Holocaust denial, and arrest people for saying bad things about jews (and no doubt other people). Of course I'm not saying going on a murder spree is therefore justified, but its a bit rich to expect muslims to be joining in the whole "Je Suis Charlie" thing, and standing up for people's right to mock Islam - while there remains draconian laws to keep other topics off limits.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:



Nonsense.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 3:55pm:


Here.
polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 1:54pm:


That's a very eloquent BUT.  It's the 'but' of the "on the one hand, on the other hand". But there is no 'on the other hand' for shooting up a Paris newspaper in the name of Mohammed.  There is no "on the other hand"  for declaring a fatwah on a writer, for murdering a Dutch film-maker, to call death on Dutch parliamentarians. There is no "on the other hand" for shooting up Jewish delis and synagogues, parliament building, cafes, airports, blowing up buses, tube trains, trains, tall buildings with aeroplanes, beheading soldiers on leave in London, beheading aid workers in Syria, raping, murdering, rioting and generally carrying on like a bunch of emotionally incontinent f Vckn maniacs who can't bloody well be told what the limit is.


Soren wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 1:21pm:




So please do not come with the cheeky BS that Islam stand for more freedom than those who oppose it.

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 5:18pm:


There are far too many violent Muslim protest which the 'moderates' like you are doing nothing about.  Moderate Islam is the problem.  The lunatics are lunatics, It's the sane Muslims who are the problem. Their views are indistinguishable from the views of the violent ones. They may be  squeamish but doctrinally they are exactly like the violent ones: they are against freedom, they are for sharia, for the caliphate, against democratic laws-making, against equality of Muslims and non-Muslims, men and women, against freedom of speech, conscience, religion.

The information in the OP, is another example of the bizarre 'logic' which moslems adhere to and promote!






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IN EVERY INSTANCE, WHEN MOSLEMS COME INTO IN CONFLICT WITH OTHERS [i.e. in conflict with the 'oppressors'], the moslem argument is;           .....that those who are the cause of the conflict, are always those who are not moslems --------- >





Quote:

"ISLAM SEEKS PEACE - Oh really!"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1258072652/1#1

freediver wrote on Mar 16^th, 2015 at 8:45pm:


This is FD once again pulling the anti-semitic card because he can't think of anything relevant to say. What do you always call it? Oh yes - its 'wacist'.

Never mind that you yourself have acknowledged the hypocricy.

Is it the Jews' fault that I am pointing out your efforts to blame the slaughter of cartoonists on pro-Jewish discrimination?

Do you really think the guys who slaughtered the cartoonists were motivated to do this in any significant way by holocaust denial laws, rather than the cartoons mocking Muhammed?