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Julius Abbott Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 792 Gender:	Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace Reply #15 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 10:49am MumboJumbo wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 10:16am: It's a rare thread that can be put so succinctly. Well done, yadda. It's really got nothing to do with Israel. It's classic anti-semitism, playing on the old jews-run-the-world card. If criticising Israel is anti-Semitic, then does that make criticising IS Islamophobic?
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Reply #16 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:01am

More whine ?

Yes, Netanyahu is banging the war drums and has been laughed out of the US

He's facing problems at home, too

Yesterday's US news is running a feature on hard times in Israel

Apparently, the divide in Israel between the Haves and Have Nots is at crisis point

The feature continues to say that despite receiving untold financial monies on constant basis from countries with severe financial difficulties of their own -- there nevertheless exist a sizeable proportion of Israelis who exist beneath the poverty threshold

and they're not just Israeli Arabs by any means

The situation is so dire in Israel re: the Have's, that the feature claims a mere 20 Israeli families hold the vast proportion of whatever wealth exists in Israel

Apparently, says the article, the 20 families recycle vast amounts between themselves and a complicated series of companies owned by them

Discontent in Israel is at a high, on those grounds alone, according to the article

War is profit. Adelson in the US owns Netanyahu, according to other news sources

The US needs war to remain solvent and Netanyahu, according to news sources, is happy to bang the war-drums on behalf of certain US bodies

The world watches and courtesy of the interwebs, never has information been so swiftly and readily available

Netanyahu is screaming for war

he wants the US to nuke Iran

Another Israeli personality roared publicly, recently, that Israel should begin 'beheading' certain factions of its own society, namely, those Israelis who are not inclined toward more war, bloodshed, carnage, drama, etc

The insanity continues

Will Israelis vote for Netanyahu? After all, he and his family are on the nose in Israel on account of exposed greed on the part of Netanyahu and his family

he was recently exposed for crying-poor and for taking news cameras into one of his maids' apartments and claiming he and his family lived there

Israel, with its decades' long possession of nukes (widely regarded as numbering 300 plus nukes) remains adamant the world should nuke Iran out of existence for having no nukes but -- according to Netanyahu -- the potential to create nukes

I know. This woeful BS coming out of Israel is critical, therefore cited as 'anti semitic' by people who, like brat kids in the supermarket, appear of the opinion they're immune to criticism for some reason

All my comments, posts & opinions are to be regarded as satire & humour

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Reply #17 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:06am

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Oh yeah --- in addition to the above news from Israel comes the news Israel is in the process of building yet another fence to prevent 'infiltrators' (known in the rest of the world as 'asylum seekers and refugees') from getting into the Promised Land

because Israel, with its multiplicity of nationalities all claiming to be jews, claims vehemently that it must protect its -- LOL -- homogeneity

For this reason, Israel prevailed upon an willing as heck Aussie MP named Danby to prevail upon the Australian government to take the Africans Israel rejects

Israel believes Australia either is not entitled to protect its homogeneity, or no longer has it, apparently

I posted that article from the Jerusalem Post in another thread, but can post it here if anyone wants to see it ...

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Reply #18 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:27am

You must appreciate Israel's position. What was meant to be a Jewish homeland is in danger of being overwhelmed by it's Arab citizens, never mind the hostile ring of predators ever ready to devour it. And that because, alone of all the nations in that part of the world, it has made the "mistake" of trying to adhere to the democratic principle.
Democratic principles and standing against the Arab are a non sequitur.

Let us be grateful, I certainly am as a non-Jew, that enough Israelis have had the sense to probably give Netanyahu another term

Know the enemies of a civil society by their public behaviour, by their fraudulent claim to be liberal-progressive, by their propensity to lie and, above all, by their attachment to authoritarianism.

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Reply #19 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:38am

PZ547 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:01am:

... the 20 families recycle vast amounts between themselves and a complicated series of companies owned by them..

I found something dissimilar going on in the US when I researched who owned the biggest companies.

There is obviously something very shifty going on at the top, but the structures are far too complicated for the ordinary person to comprehend, and there is no political will to investigate the situation.

The wealth of the top 40 people in the US equals about 10% of US GDP

The Koch and Ziff families alone are worth over $100 billion - about 1% of US GDP!

Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace Reply #20 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 11:47am What is US GDP worth when it is vastly exceeded by its debt? Maybe it is a valuable resource if there is some reserve of unencumbered wealth, whoever owns it.
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innocentbystander. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4723 Gender:	Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace Reply #21 - Mar 18^th, 2015 at 12:12pm Not sure why any Israeli should be worried about a Palestinian state, state or no state they hate Israel and want to destroy it, why would anyone care about the people that hate and want to kill you, doesn't make any sense.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace Reply #22 - Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:31pm Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace (at any price) So.... Netanyahu secures resounding victory
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Reply #23 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:32pm

The two state 'solution' is the West's fantasy.
Israel is not interested in having a Hamastan on it's borders firing even more missiles into Israel, kidnapping civilians and spraying Israeli school buses and sea side cafes with AK47's.
It's time the West stopped rewarding the Arab terrorists.
The fact is the Arabs are sworn to destroy Israel and kill it's inhabitants, there Koran says so and they teach it to their kids in school daily and tell children on their televisions that Jews are pigs and apes.
There will be no two state solution ever until the Arabs lose their irrational Islamic Jew hatred, and only an Islamised lefty would believe the terrorists would stop once they have their own state.
They could have had their own state over forty years ago, there not interested in peace and have broken every ceasefire.
They are only interested in killing Jews.
They don't hate Jews because of Israel, but hate Israel because of Jews and the leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon is on record as saying even if there was no Israel, they would still want the Jews dead elsewhere in the world.
Hamas's Charter also is committed to the destruction of Israel and the deaths of all Jews.
Fatah cheers when Jews are killed, and Abbas pays out millions of shekels every month to the families of martyr's killed whilst trying to kill Jews out of the money the stupid West gives the Palestinian Authority.
And with over 14000 missiles already fired into Israel to try to kill Jews in a few years has only ensured that the Israeli's oddly enough do not believe the Arabs to be peace partners, only idiotic Western leaders do.
It's only the Israeli's who have ever made concessions, they gave up Gaza for peace in 2005 in a unilateral full withdrawal uprooting over 10,000 Jewish inhabitants and the Islamists then turned Gaza into a launching pad for Iranian rockets and have been firing since.
If the West wants a Palestinian state so much, have one in Europe.
The two state 'solution' is the way to see even more war.
It's time the West woke up.

"Another boat, another policy failure from the Howard government"

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Reply #24 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:20pm

post #23

chicken_lipsforme, all valid points.

But we don't live in a rational world today. Cry

We live in a world today, where many political leaders in the world today, seem to believe, that peace can assuredly come from appeasement of evil people, ....from pandering to the demands of evil people.

That is not indicative of rational thought.

chicken_lipsforme,

Luckily, Israel is named after,
.....hmmmmm, who was it chicken_lipsforme, that Israel was named after ? ....

Isaiah 43:1
But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.

Isaiah 43:5
Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the east, and gather thee from the west;
6 I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth;
7 Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.

Against, THE NAME of Israel

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1420088512/1#1

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Yadda said....
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Julius Abbott,

Yeah i just believe faerie tales [that were written more than 3,000 years ago] in a faerie tale book, because i am a person who does not have a good grasp on reality.

"abracadabra"

Deuteronomy 4:27
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.

Deuteronomy 28:37
And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.

Deuteronomy 28:64
And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:

1 Kings 9:6
But if ye shall at all turn from following me, ye or your children, and will not keep my commandments and my statutes which I have set before you, but go and serve other gods, and worship them:
7 Then will I cut off Israel out of the land which I have given them; and this house, which I have hallowed for my name, will I cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb and a byword among all people:
8 And at this house, which is high, every one that passeth by it shall be astonished, and shall hiss; and they shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and to this house?
9 And they shall answer, Because they forsook the LORD their God, who brought forth their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and have taken hold upon other gods, and have worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.

[n.b. In 1 Kings 9:6-9, God isn't threatening people and forcing a people to worship him.
Ancient Israel was a nation of people, WHO HAD BEEN REDEEMED FROM BONDAGE, by their God.
In 1 Kings 9:6-9, God is threatening to PUNISH Israel [who was a nation of people, who were 'in covenant' with God] if they brake their covenant with God.]

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #25 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace (at any price)[at the price agreed to by every other country in the world]

So....

Netanyahu secures resounding victory

and what does us tell us about Israelis?

When the Arabs eventually attack Israel, I think the world should remember that the Israelis voted against peace

Abbott promised no tax hikes & no cuts to the ABC

There's a 'budget emergency', so we will give $9 billion to the Reserve Bank, spend $12 billion on some dubious jets, $2 billion to bomb Iraq, etc.

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Reply #26 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:40pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace (at any price)[at the price agreed to by every other country in the world]

So....

Netanyahu secures resounding victory

and what does us tell us about Israelis?

When the Arabs eventually attack Israel, I think the world should remember that the Israelis voted against peace

Arabs attacking Israel has been in the pipeline for the last ten years, which is why Israel will strike first, especially since Nobama is in the process of making a deal on nuclear "energy" weaponisation with Iran.

Israel will do the pre-emptive strikes, not the Arabs.

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Reply #27 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:44pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace (at any price)[at the price agreed to by every other country in the world]

So....

Netanyahu secures resounding victory

and what does us tell us about Israelis?

When the Arabs eventually attack Israel, I think the world should remember that the Israelis voted against peace

You mean "when the Arabs attack Israel for the 4th time (and are again sent home in tears) the world will remember that the Israelis made the right decision"

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #28 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 8:16pm

Julius Abbott wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 7:29pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 19^th, 2015 at 6:31pm:

Re: Israel PM Says No To Peace (at any price)[at the price agreed to by every other country in the world]

So....

Netanyahu secures resounding victory

and what does us tell us about Israelis?

When the Arabs eventually attack Israel, I think the world should remember that the Israelis voted against peace

When they attack they will be humiliated like every other time.

As the Jews gratefully say every morning, "Thank god for giving us the Arabs as enemies".

There would be no Israel if the 'Muslim world" was German or Swiss or Russian.
Arabs are children - emotionally, intellectually, they are tribal, they are clannish, they could not unite for chips.

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Reply #29 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:34pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 6:32pm:

The two state 'solution' is the West's fantasy.
Israel is not interested in having a Hamastan on it's borders firing even more missiles into Israel, kidnapping civilians and spraying Israeli school buses and sea side cafes with AK47's.
It's time the West stopped rewarding the Arab terrorists.
The fact is the Arabs are sworn to destroy Israel and kill it's inhabitants, there Koran says so and they teach it to their kids in school daily and tell children on their televisions that Jews are pigs and apes.
There will be no two state solution ever until the Arabs lose their irrational Islamic Jew hatred, and only an Islamised lefty would believe the terrorists would stop once they have their own state.
They could have had their own state over forty years ago, there not interested in peace and have broken every ceasefire.
They are only interested in killing Jews.
They don't hate Jews because of Israel, but hate Israel because of Jews

and the leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon is on record as saying even if there was no Israel, they would still want the Jews dead elsewhere in the world.

Hamas's Charter also is committed to the destruction of Israel and the deaths of all Jews.

Fatah cheers when Jews are killed, and Abbas pays out millions of shekels every month to the families of martyr's killed whilst trying to kill Jews out of the money the stupid West gives the Palestinian Authority.
And with over 14000 missiles already fired into Israel to try to kill Jews in a few years has only ensured that the Israeli's oddly enough do not believe the Arabs to be peace partners, only idiotic Western leaders do.
It's only the Israeli's who have ever made concessions, they gave up Gaza for peace in 2005 in a unilateral full withdrawal uprooting over 10,000 Jewish inhabitants and the Islamists then turned Gaza into a launching pad for Iranian rockets and have been firing since.
If the West wants a Palestinian state so much, have one in Europe.
The two state 'solution' is the way to see even more war.
It's time the West woke up.

The devout moslem has the mindset of a RIGHTEOUS HATRED, towards all infidels [.....i.e. BECAUSE THEY ARE INFIDELS!!]

Jews are infidels.

Australians are infidels.

We can see this mindset here, in another report.....
e.g.

Quote:

Islamists: "Destruction is a Matter of Time"

by Mitchell Bard • November 25, 2014 at 5:00 am

"If the Jews left Palestine to us, would we start loving them?

Of course not.

The Jews are infidels not because I say so but because Allah does...

They aren't our enemies because they occupy Palestine;

they would be our enemies even if they had not occupied anything."
— Muhammad Hussein Ya'qub, Egyptian cleric.........

Google

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AND THESE ARE THE WORDS OF A MOSLEM COMMUNITY LEADER, HERE IN AUSTRALIA, YT dated 2014-July-25 !!.....

Quote:

"This nation [i.e. the moslem nation/community, the ummah] has been and will continue to be a nation of Jihad until Judgement day.

MAKE NO MISTAKE: THE NATION [the ummah] HAS NOT CHANGED ITS THINKING, ITS RELIGION, OR ITS FAITH. [i.e. a moslem, IS, a moslem!!!]

IT [the ummah, the moslem community] HAS BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A NATION OF JIHAD UNTIL JUDGEMENT DAY."

....."What is happening in Gaza indicates that it is a delusion to think that PALESTINE can contain the Jews as well as ITS PEOPLE.

PALESTINE cannot contain the Muslims and the Jews.

The Jews.....will not remain there.

Any Jew living in PALESTINE is an illegitimate occupier.

He is a target of Jihad, and will end up in the garbage bin of history.

This [is] for all the Jews in PALESTINE.

It makes no difference whether a Jew is pro-peace or pro-war."

This guy -------------- >

Australian Islamist Leaders Incite to Jihad to Expel Jews from Palestine
goto 0m 50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN6B8WBzbpw

This guy -------------- >

IMAGE.....

This 'secular moslem' [speaking in above YT] is 'Australian', Ismail Alwahwah.

This is a moslem, who is a MOSLEM COMMUNITY LEADER, here in Australia.

And he has stated that the example, of the Charlie Hebdo terrorist attacks in Paris, are the way [for 'the moslem'] to 'cure' the 'disrespect' shown to moslems, by disbelievers.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1421022403/33#33

"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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