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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14210 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:06am More to follow
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #1 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:08am Wow, just months after Gough! ABC has the story, but only the bald announcement.
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #2 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am Sad news. Condolences to his family.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74862 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #3 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ... thanks for your service and RIP
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #4 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:11am Him hiding in a Yarrlumla anteroom while the government was changed as an act of party-politics has forever tarnished his name.
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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #5 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am: A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ... thanks for your service and RIP I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74862 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #6 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am: John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am: A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ... thanks for your service and RIP I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements. I didn't know he had any .....
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #7 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:17am Ending apartheid? Didn’t do it all by himself but was a player in it.
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buzzanddidj

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Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84
Reply #8 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:24am

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ...

thanks for your service and RIP

I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.

I didn't know he had any .....

Mr Fraser claims Mr

Howard

approached him in a corridor following a cabinet meeting in May 1977 and said:

"We don't want too many of these people. We're doing this just for show, aren't we?"

The claim, made by Mr Fraser in an interview to mark the release of the 1977 cabinet papers, opens a new front in the continuing battle between the two former prime ministers on immigration policy and race issues.

Mr Fraser
, who was prime minister at the time, told The Australian that he had rebuffed his junior minister, telling Mr Howard:
"You could have spoken in the cabinet room. You didn't, and what you say to me I didn't hear."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/cabinet-papers/howard-in-war-refugee-sn...

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Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84
Reply #9 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:26am

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ...

thanks for your service and RIP

I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.

I didn't know he had any .....

Look at his record on human rights and multiculturalism. Lots of good stuff there. He established the Human Rights Commission, opposed apartheid, resettled refugees, started SBS television, made progress on Aboriginal land rights, and so on.

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Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84
Reply #10 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:32am

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ...

thanks for your service and RIP

I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.

I didn't know he had any .....

He appointed Lebanese Muslims in Lebanon to act as Refugee agents for the Australian government ... with the no-brainer result that these Muslims sent us their Muslims while rejecting applications from the Christians.

Thanks Malcolm.

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Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84
Reply #11 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:46am

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ...

thanks for your service and RIP

I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.

I didn't know he had any .....

 Oversaw establishment of Family Court of Australia and Federal Court of Australia, Northern Territory self government, passage of Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Act, creation of Federal Ombudsman, ABC FM radio; Special Broadcasting Service (SBS), Australian Refugee Advisory Council, Aboriginal Development Commission.

 Ended mining of mineral sands from Fraser Island. Declared 36 000 square km of Cairns section of Great Barrier Reef as marine park. Introduced policy of uranium development with safeguards framework. Oversaw landmark 1978 decision to price local oil at world parity, resources boom through opening up new coalmines, North West Shelf, power stations and aluminium plants for investment.

 Introduced family allowances paid to mothers.
Oversaw decision to build new Parliament House on Capital Hill.

 Prominent in international affairs. Supported independence movements in Africa and antiapartheid boycotts against South Africa. Actively promoted Zimbabwe’s independence. Called for global Common Fund to stabilise commodity prices.

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Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84
Reply #12 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 11:11am

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:26am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 10:12am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:16am:

John Smith wrote on Mar 20^th, 2015 at 9:09am:

A crap PM but he seemed to be a decent bloke ...

thanks for your service and RIP

I think it more appropriate at this time to focus on his achievements.

I didn't know he had any .....

Look at his record on human rights and multiculturalism. Lots of good stuff there. He established the Human Rights Commission, opposed apartheid, resettled refugees, started SBS television, made progress on Aboriginal land rights, and so on.

I recall
Fraser
once being asked in an interview, what had caused his
"shift to the left"
in his later years

Without hesitation he stated - EMPHATICALLY - that his values had never wavered

... but that the
Liberal Party
, Australia - and the whole world, to an extent - had taken a disturbing
"shift to the right"

He was CORRECT

History will be kinder to
Fraser
in death, than it was in life - as it will
Whitlam

ON that note - does anyone have an explanation as to why such things as anti-racism, cultural and religious tolerance - and conservation - are seen as "leftist ideals"
?

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14210 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #13 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 11:19am Very good special coverage on ABC24 at the moment
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St George of the Garden Gold Member Offline http://tinyurl.com/n 3o8m2x Posts: 9809 Gender:	Re: Malcolm Fraser dead, at 84 Reply #14 - Mar 20^th, 2015 at 8:11pm
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